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by: TDH1978 - Fri, 2 Dec 2022 03:06 UTC

I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
right).

The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used to
have these column names in macOS High Sierra.

I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and "View")
but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does anyone know
where that setting is?

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by: TDH1978 - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 01:35 UTC

On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:

> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
> Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
> right).
>
> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
> have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used to
> have these column names in macOS High Sierra.
>
> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and "View")
> but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does anyone know
> where that setting is?

Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:

https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250722377
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251912020

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by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 02:05 UTC

On 2022-12-03, TDH1978 <thedeerhunter1978@movie.uni> wrote:
> On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>
>> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
>> Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
>> right).
>>
>> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
>> have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used to
>> have these column names in macOS High Sierra.
>>
>> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and "View")
>> but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does anyone know
>> where that setting is?
>
> Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:
>
> https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html

FWIW, column view seems to work fine for my in macOS 12.6.1.

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by: Your Name - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 05:21 UTC

On 2022-12-03 01:35:34 +0000, TDH1978 said:
> On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>
>> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
>> Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
>> right).
>>
>> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
>> have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used to
>> have these column names in macOS High Sierra.
>>
>> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and "View")
>> but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does anyone know
>> where that setting is?
>
> Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:
>
>
> https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html
>
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250722377
> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251912020

It's not an issue ... it's a "feature". ;-)

Yet again, Apple goes with pointless style over actual usefulness. :-(

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From: nuh...@nope.com (Alan)
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by: Alan - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 06:20 UTC

On 2022-12-02 21:21, Your Name wrote:
> On 2022-12-03 01:35:34 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>> On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>>
>>> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
>>> Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
>>> right).
>>>
>>> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
>>> have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used
>>> to have these column names in macOS High Sierra.
>>>
>>> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and
>>> "View") but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does
>>> anyone know where that setting is?
>>
>> Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:
>>
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html
>>     https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250722377
>>     https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251912020
>
> It's not an issue ... it's a "feature". ;-)
>
> Yet again, Apple goes with pointless style over actual usefulness.   :-(
>
>
>

And when people didn't like the change, they changed it back...

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by: Your Name - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 21:19 UTC

On 2022-12-03 06:20:29 +0000, Alan said:

> On 2022-12-02 21:21, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2022-12-03 01:35:34 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>> On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>>>
>>>> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with "Use Column
>>>> Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the preview in the bottom
>>>> right).
>>>>
>>>> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some reason do not
>>>> have names (like "Subject", "To", "From", "Received", etc). I used to
>>>> have these column names in macOS High Sierra.
>>>>
>>>> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing", and "View")
>>>> but I don't see the setting for having column names. Does anyone know
>>>> where that setting is?
>>>
>>> Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:
>>>
>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html
>>>
>>>     https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250722377
>>>     https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251912020
>>
>> It's not an issue ... it's a "feature". ;-)
>>
>> Yet again, Apple goes with pointless style over actual usefulness.   :-(
>
> And when people didn't like the change, they changed it back...

The point was they stupidly removed them in the first place. What kind
of insane morons with zero knowledge of user interface design came up
with and okayed that change?

I haven't checked the dates, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was the
idiot Johnny Ive - great at making boxes (usually, a charging point
underneath the mouse is sheer idiocy!), but useless at software design
and he should never have been put in charge of it.

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by: Alan - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 21:21 UTC

On 2022-12-03 13:19, Your Name wrote:
> On 2022-12-03 06:20:29 +0000, Alan said:
>
>> On 2022-12-02 21:21, Your Name wrote:
>>> On 2022-12-03 01:35:34 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>>> On 2022-12-02 03:06:48 +0000, TDH1978 said:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using Apple Mail 13.4 on macOS Catalina 10.15.7, with
>>>>> "Use Column Layout" enabled (i.e. three panes, with the
>>>>> preview in the bottom right).
>>>>>
>>>>> The columns in the email list pane (top right) for some
>>>>> reason do not have names (like "Subject", "To", "From",
>>>>> "Received", etc). I used to have these column names in macOS
>>>>> High Sierra.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've searched in the usual places ("Preferences > Viewing",
>>>>> and "View") but I don't see the setting for having column
>>>>> names. Does anyone know where that setting is?
>>>>
>>>> Never mind; turns out this is a known issue in Catalina:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.macworld.com/article/233954/apple-remove-column-options-from-macos-mail.html
>>>>
>>>>
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250722377
>>>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251912020
>>>
>>> It's not an issue ... it's a "feature". ;-)
>>>
>>> Yet again, Apple goes with pointless style over actual
>>> usefulness. :-(
>>
>> And when people didn't like the change, they changed it back...
>
> The point was they stupidly removed them in the first place. What
> kind of insane morons with zero knowledge of user interface design
> came up with and okayed that change?
>
> I haven't checked the dates, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
> the idiot Johnny Ive - great at making boxes (usually, a charging
> point underneath the mouse is sheer idiocy!), but useless at software
> design and he should never have been put in charge of it.

People make mistakes.

Even very smart people.

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by: Jolly Roger - Sat, 3 Dec 2022 22:14 UTC

On 2022-12-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2022-12-03 13:19, Your Name wrote:
>> On 2022-12-03 06:20:29 +0000, Alan said:
>>> On 2022-12-02 21:21, Your Name wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Yet again, Apple goes with pointless style over actual usefulness.
>>>> :-(
>>>
>>> And when people didn't like the change, they changed it back...
>>
>> The point was they stupidly removed them in the first place. What
>> kind of insane morons with zero knowledge of user interface design
>> came up with and okayed that change?
>>
>> I haven't checked the dates, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was
>> the idiot Johnny Ive - great at making boxes (usually, a charging
>> point underneath the mouse is sheer idiocy!), but useless at software
>> design and he should never have been put in charge of it.
>
> People make mistakes.
>
> Even very smart people.

This strange idea some people have that every little thing they dislike
must have been the result of some direct decision by Tim Cook or Jony
Ive is frankly ridiculous.

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No column names in Apple Mail...	TDH1978
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	TDH1978
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Jolly Roger
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Your Name
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Alan
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Your Name
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Alan
Re: No column names in Apple Mail...	Jolly Roger