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* (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Zaghadka
|`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
| `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Zaghadka
|  +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|  |`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
|  | `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|  |  `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
|  |   +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|  |   |`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|  |   +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Chris
|  |   |`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|  |   `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|  `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|   +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?sms
|   |`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Ken Blake
|   | `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|   +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Joerg Lorenz
|   |`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
|   | `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|   |  `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Jolly Roger
|   |   `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Bob Campbell
|   +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Your Name
|   |`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Rod Speed
|   `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
|    |`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    | +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
|    | |`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    | `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Rod Speed
|    +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|    |`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?sms
|    | `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    |  `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|    |   +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    |   `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Rod Speed
|    |    `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Carlos E.R.
|    |     +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    |     +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Rod Speed
|    |     +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Alan Browne
|    |     `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Chris
|    |      `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    |       +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
|    |       `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Alan
|    +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Rod Speed
|    `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Jolly Roger
|     `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Bob Campbell
|`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
+- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
`* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli
 +- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Jerry
 `* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?*Hemidactylus*
  +* Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?*Hemidactylus*
  |`- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?nospam
  `- Re: (OT) What makes some people iKooks anyway?Andy Burnelli

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From: rod.spee...@gmail.com (Rod Speed)
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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 04:44 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:57:56 +1100, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2023-01-18 01:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>> sms wrote:
>>
>>> Even if "Rod Speed" or "nospam" really did make threats, no one takes
>>> anything they post seriously, and certainly the FBI would not.
>> Say that when someone threatens you directly - or your wife & 2 kids
>> Steve.
>
> Really? When you are so intelligent that you use faked names?

He is so absolutely paranoid that he won't use anything
except cash so in theory no one can work out who he is.

In reality he has spelt out very explicitly where
he has used wifi to get around the lack of decent
cellphone coverage that it would be trivial to ask
his neighbours who he actually is given that it
was him that provided their wifi service.

> Or are you telling that they know who you really are despite your
> efforts to the contrary? And if you know they do, then why insist in
> disguising your identity?

Because he is that rabidly paranoid.

>> Say that when they know the school where your boy taught music, for
>> example, my point being solely that you can say that because it's not
>> you.
>> I take EVERY threat against my life seriously, and I _did_ contact the
>> FBI.
>> They took it seriously enough to assign someone to the case, who
>> contacted
>> me for details, which I provided to the best of my ability.
>
> No, they contacted you to have a good laugh at you.
> You are being delusional.

Yep. Bet they have one hell of a file on him.

>> You know I would do that so you know this as my credibility is stellar.

> ROTFL!

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From: robin_li...@es.invalid (Carlos E.R.)
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 by: Carlos E.R. - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 10:06 UTC

On 2023-01-18 05:44, Rod Speed wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:57:56 +1100, Carlos E.R.
> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-01-18 01:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>> sms wrote:
>>>
>>>> Even if "Rod Speed" or "nospam" really did make threats, no one
>>>> takes anything they post seriously, and certainly the FBI would not.
>>>  Say that when someone threatens you directly - or your wife & 2 kids
>>> Steve.
>>
>> Really? When you are so intelligent that you use faked names?
>
> He is so absolutely paranoid that he won't use anything
> except cash so in theory no one can work out who he is.
>
> In reality he has spelt out very explicitly where
> he has used wifi to get around the lack of decent
> cellphone coverage that it would be trivial to ask
> his neighbours who he actually is given that it
> was him that provided their wifi service.

It would be nice if somebody posted his real name and location :-DD

>
>> Or are you telling that they know who you really are despite your
>> efforts to the contrary? And if you know they do, then why insist in
>> disguising your identity?
>
> Because he is that rabidly paranoid.

Yeah, but one can be paranoid and be intelligent about it, or silly. He
is the later.

>
>>>  Say that when they know the school where your boy taught music, for
>>> example, my point being solely that you can say that because it's not
>>> you.
>>>  I take EVERY threat against my life seriously, and I _did_ contact
>>> the FBI.
>>>  They took it seriously enough to assign someone to the case, who
>>> contacted
>>> me for details, which I provided to the best of my ability.
>>
>> No, they contacted you to have a good laugh at you.
>> You are being delusional.
>
> Yep. Bet they have one hell of a file on him.
>
>>>  You know I would do that so you know this as my credibility is stellar.
>
>> ROTFL!

--
Cheers, Carlos.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:18 UTC

Carlos E.R. wrote:

> It would be nice if somebody posted his real name and location

Again, you show you have too low of an IQ Carlos to figure out what isn't
even hidden, given I've posted in the various newsgroups my home, my
rooftop, my pool, my barn, my corral, my landscaping, my improvements, etc.

You'd just have to correlate all the various headers, which, I realize, is
beyond your level of capabilities, but it's not beyond the level of a
robotic scooper to grab all the headers and use them to aggregate posts.

Meanwhile I think it's humorous that morons like you and Ken Blake think
you're veritable geniuses for figuring out, from the body alone, what was
never hidden from YOU (it's intended to be hidden from robotic algorithms).

BTW, for those reading this who don't understand why I say the fact it
takes low IQ morons like Ken Blake and Carlos a thousand posts to figure
out mine, I assert that if you can't figure out my post in a _single_ post,
then you are so dumb that you don't deserve to be on Usenet being that
dumb.

Seriously.
Here's a post I just made only moments ago in the Android newsgroup by way
of showing the tremendous amount of detail, and the fact that the
screenshots, whether they be of an iPad or Android or Windows, are always
the same fantastically well organized and easily identified annotation.

Still - it takes low IQ people like Ken Blake and Carlos a few hundred of
these posts for them to finally jump up with glee saying "I found you!".

----- < cut here for a representative post made moments ago > -----
>>> On my Samsung Galaxy S10+ (Android 12): Settings > Battery and
>>> device care > Battery > More battery settings > Protect battery
>>> switch to ON" Caption under switch: "To extend the lifespan of
>>> your battery limit the charge to 85%".
>
>> Does your setting look something like this on my free Samsung phone?
>> <https://i.postimg.cc/VL6HGPGc/battery01.jpg> Android Battery
>> Settings
>
> Only your 1st and 4th pages are the same as mine. On my 1st page I found
> it easy to miss the 'Battery' button since it looks more like an
> battery information diagram than a button to press (to me). Thus it was
> awhile before I discovered I could actually push it and found all that
> stuff behind it...

Thanks for responding as that's interesting because it means you don't have
the "Auto optimize daily" and "Auto restart at set times" and "Adaptive
Power Saving" options in that third screen, I guess.
<https://i.postimg.cc/VL6HGPGc/battery01.jpg> Android 12 Battery Settings

The only entry of those three that has an explanation is the last, which
says "Turn power saving on and off automatically based on your usage
pattern".

But at least you have "Adaptive battery", which says "Extend battery life
based on your phone usage", and the ability to turn "Fast charging" on or
off, and, of course, the "protect battery" feature which says "To extend
the lifespan of your battery, limit the maximum charge to 85%".

There are a whole bunch of other default battery settings on my el cheapo
(actually free) Samsung such as a battery setting for each & every app.
<https://i.postimg.cc/8Cm6hqWZ/battery07.jpg> Settings for every app

The more I look, the more battery care settings are in my battery settings
such as this "More battery settings" for "Sleeping apps" where there is an
option to "Put unused apps to sleep" as shown in this screenshot below.
<https://i.postimg.cc/0y9qM0hc/battery17.jpg> Background Usage Limits

I made all of these screenshots just now to show you what options I have
on my el cheapo (free) Samsung of low Total Cost of Ownership because if I
ever sell it, I will get back "something" which is always more than I paid.

Here you can see which apps are sleeping, and which are deep sleeping, and
which apps are be in the never sleeping apps listing as shown here.
<https://i.postimg.cc/28QDSK91/battery18.jpg> Control sleeping apps

Here you can see more power saving options, which changes the screen
refresh rate, and background network usage, syncing and location checking
is curtailed if necessary, and there are even additional limits such as
limiting the CPU speed to 70% and decreasing brightness by 10% and limit
apps and home screen which is described as "For maximum power saving, allow
only selected apps, limit all background activity, turn off Edge panels,
and change to a dark theme", which is grayed out for some reason on mine.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Bv69NQSF/battery19.jpg> Limit CPU Speed to 70%

Is that last option grayed out for you too?

What happens if you go to Android 12 > Settings > Battery and device care
and then you _longpress_ on any given item to bring up these extra screens?

AJL wrote:

>> <https://i.postimg.cc/Bv69NQSF/battery19.jpg> Is that last option
>> grayed out for you too?
>
> I don't have a Power Saving switch on screen 2 thus nothing grayed out
> on a later screen. I do have a Wireless power sharing switch on that
> screen that I don't see on yours. Apparently I can wireless charge
> another phone by putting them back to back if needed but have never
> needed or tried it.

Thank you for checking that information out.

My (admittedly free) Android is the cheapest Galaxy made, I think, which is
far more powerful in terms of functionality than any iPhone ever sold, but
it doesn't do wireless charging, so that may be why you have what I don't.

>> What happens if you go to Android 12 > Settings > Battery and device
>> care and then you _longpress_ on any given item to bring up these
>> extra screens?
>
> Long press does nothing extra over what a short press does...

Bummer. My Android is the bottom of the line for Samsung Galaxy devices so
I'd be surprised if it has anything special over the better Galaxy phones.

BTW, I noticed more battery performance options scattered about in the
settings. For example, do you have Developer options turned on perchance?
<https://i.postimg.cc/3N8zZ1vt/devopt05.jpg> Turning Developer Options on

In my Developer options there is a switch for "Wi-Fi scan throttling" which
says "Saves battery and improves network performance" by reducing the
frequency in which the Wi-Fi radios will scan for new access points.
<https://i.postimg.cc/HkkSDgh1/battery20.jpg> Wi-Fi Scan Throttling

There's also a setting for "Background process limit" and "Don't keep
activities" which will "Destroy every activity as soon as the user leaves
it" in addition to the ability to view and control all running services.
<https://i.postimg.cc/28324Hdp/devopt01.jpg> Settings > Developer options
<https://i.postimg.cc/PrqFSfjR/devopt02.jpg> Useful devoptions switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/7LzRSBkP/devopt03.jpg> More devoptions switches
<https://i.postimg.cc/DZFxLn65/devopt04.jpg> Even more devoptions switches

Luckily the battery is so huge it could jumpstart a car, but still, it's
nice to have all these battery options, and the apps that keep track.

Here, for example, are a few screenshots of what the GSAM app displays.
<https://i.postimg.cc/bNGQrMzn/gsam01.jpg> GSam Battery Monitor on Google
<https://i.postimg.cc/dQN2qvKv/gsam02.jpg> com.gsamlabs.bbm on Google Play
<https://i.postimg.cc/wBzJWjD5/gsam03.jpg> Running GSam Battery Monitor
<https://i.postimg.cc/brr1QVkK/gsam04.jpg> OPTIONAL grant access w/o root
<https://i.postimg.cc/BbRP2SqK/gsam05.jpg> Enable More Stats (via adb)
<https://i.postimg.cc/9MJGwHRd/gsam06.jpg> Battery Usage Since Unplugged
<https://i.postimg.cc/XNPCR8wY/gsam07.jpg> Compare WiFi & Phone power
<https://i.postimg.cc/nzH4LhzV/gsam08.jpg> Battery consumption charts
<https://i.postimg.cc/QxWThTbk/gsam09.jpg> Battery consumption by CPU
<https://i.postimg.cc/MpQbPLNw/gsam10.jpg> Battery consumption by app

And here's just a few of the BBS options for keeping tabs on the battery.
<https://i.postimg.cc/90nTDZTV/battery11.jpg> BetterBatteryStats graphs
<https://i.postimg.cc/T1p5v1ss/battery12.jpg> BBS actions by percentage
<https://i.postimg.cc/ZKXpZP4x/battery13.jpg> BBS comprehensive settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/kXSDQ0PW/battery14.jpg> Some BBS settings options
<https://i.postimg.cc/RCyNnMyM/battery15.jpg> More BBS settings options
<https://i.postimg.cc/fLW05BfD/battery16.jpg> Even more BBS options

We should probably just open a separate thread on the Android newsgroup
for what options exist to manage the battery, since there are so many.

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 by: Rod Speed - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 15:52 UTC

On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 21:06:12 +1100, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>
wrote:

> On 2023-01-18 05:44, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:57:56 +1100, Carlos E.R.
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-01-18 01:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>>> sms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Even if "Rod Speed" or "nospam" really did make threats, no one
>>>>> takes anything they post seriously, and certainly the FBI would not.
>>>> Say that when someone threatens you directly - or your wife & 2 kids
>>>> Steve.
>>>
>>> Really? When you are so intelligent that you use faked names?

>> He is so absolutely paranoid that he won't use anything
>> except cash so in theory no one can work out who he is.

>> In reality he has spelt out very explicitly where
>> he has used wifi to get around the lack of decent
>> cellphone coverage that it would be trivial to ask
>> his neighbours who he actually is given that it
>> was him that provided their wifi service.

> It would be nice if somebody posted his real name and location :-DD

Yep. nospam does appear to know his real location
and it would be very easy to make some phone calls
to his neighbours and I bet given his involvement in
the wifi distribution there, they would at least know
the name he uses there.

>>> Or are you telling that they know who you really are despite your
>>> efforts to the contrary? And if you know they do, then why insist in
>>> disguising your identity?

>> Because he is that rabidly paranoid.

> Yeah, but one can be paranoid and be intelligent about it, or silly. He
> is the later.

He has claimed to clear walking trails near where he lives with a
chainsaw after winter and big storms and has claimed to have
come across illegal marihama crops while doing that and has
claimed to have reported them to the authoritys, so some of the
paranoia may be legitimate, but that doesn't explain the worst of
his rabid obsession and never ever using a card or anything that
can ever identify him, uses cash all the time. Corse most registers
have cameras now and so do ATMs and banks, so that is rather
silly. He also uses phones where he can change the IEMI at will
for the same mindlessly paranoid reasons.

But his family realises how stupid he is and has basically chosen
to tell him to bugger off and use apple hardware even tho he hates
apple, so it likely wouldnt be hard to work out who he is that way.

Interesting that we can observe freaks like him over decades
now from the comfort of our homes. In the past, the Victorians
in England could visit Bedlam for a bit of light entertainment
and poke a stick at the loonys chained to the wall but with
some risk of getting bitten and contacting rabies from them.

We can poke a stick at 'arlen' from the other side of the world
with no risk what so ever.

>>>> Say that when they know the school where your boy taught music, for
>>>> example, my point being solely that you can say that because it's not
>>>> you.
>>>> I take EVERY threat against my life seriously, and I _did_ contact
>>>> the FBI.
>>>> They took it seriously enough to assign someone to the case, who
>>>> contacted
>>>> me for details, which I provided to the best of my ability.
>>>
>>> No, they contacted you to have a good laugh at you.
>>> You are being delusional.
>> Yep. Bet they have one hell of a file on him.
>>
>>>> You know I would do that so you know this as my credibility is
>>>> stellar.
>>
>>> ROTFL!

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 by: Alan Browne - Wed, 18 Jan 2023 18:06 UTC

On 2023-01-18 05:06, Carlos E.R. wrote:

>>> ROTFL!

If you'd stop engaging with them, there'd be less crud here and more
signal. (And yes, you're not alone).

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
> On 2023-01-18 05:44, Rod Speed wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Jan 2023 11:57:56 +1100, Carlos E.R.
>> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2023-01-18 01:11, Andy Burnelli wrote:
>>>> sms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Even if "Rod Speed" or "nospam" really did make threats, no one
>>>>> takes anything they post seriously, and certainly the FBI would not.
>>>>  Say that when someone threatens you directly - or your wife & 2 kids
>>>> Steve.
>>>
>>> Really? When you are so intelligent that you use faked names?
>>
>> He is so absolutely paranoid that he won't use anything
>> except cash so in theory no one can work out who he is.
>>
>> In reality he has spelt out very explicitly where
>> he has used wifi to get around the lack of decent
>> cellphone coverage that it would be trivial to ask
>> his neighbours who he actually is given that it
>> was him that provided their wifi service.
>
> It would be nice if somebody posted his real name and location :-DD

Honestly that would be a dick move. No one should be sharing detailed
personal information about anyone without their consent. Even if it is
Arlen.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 01:58 UTC

Newyana2 wrote:

> Strange. I don't see any answers at all. I checked on AIOE, just
> in case. No answers there. Maybe they were people I block. ("Andy
> Burnelli" is also someone I block.) I never used to block anyone, but
> I got tired of nonsense and rudeness, like this one telling me I'm
> a liar.

Classic Alan Baker...

I knew, from the start, this thread had the hallmark of the iKooks.
*Moving files* by Newyana2
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/MFjtFd_f430>
And...
*Copying files -- Win10 laptop to Android cellphone*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/LbhmR25ySTQ>

1. We've established beyond any reasonable doubt this thread is a troll.
2. We've also established this "new" poster is a brazen liar.
3. Based on this troll's history, it's doubtful the troll even has an
Android, as this thread fit the Alan Baker pattern from the get go.

Here's the classic Alan Baker approach... which, by the way, he used
today and yesterday in this thread, so it's easy to show the iKook MO:
*find my car*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM>

Notice what transpired on the _android_ newsgroup (not Apple! Android):
A. Someone asked a question
B. Ten people responded, nine of whom posted rather detailed help
C. One though, Alan Baker, merely posted this, as his first "help"
"Sure! It's called an iPhone!
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM/m/pVVUGbCxDQAJ>
D. Then Alan posted yet again his iPhone propaganda to Android threads:
"Or you get an iPhone... "
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM/m/BS3p60LnDQAJ>

Notice the iKooks _hate_ that Android isn't crippled like iOS is.
So they post that drivel which is _never_ intended to be helpful.

The same thing happened in this thread, ostensibly about "copying files".

1. Alan Baker creates a new nym & posts a defeatist Android post;
2. In that defeatist message body, he claims nothing works on Android;
3. At the first chance he gets, he brings in that iOS just works;
4. He repeats this propaganda, daily (which is the iKook MO).

Happens all the time.
It's what these iKooks do.

Do you know why?
I do.

The iKooks all suffer from the same abnormal maladies:
a. They're all of low IQ and almost no formal education to speak of
b. As a result, they're incapable of processing facts like most adults
c. They _believe_ everything Apple says - to the point of cult religion

The problem is that the iPhone is basically like Santa Claus.
And the iKooks are basically like fifth grade held-back low-IQ bullies.

Here's how almost all factual conversations go with these iKooks:
iKook: Santa exists. And he's great! Free gifts on Christmas for the world!
Adult: No it doesn't exist. It's impossible for Apple's claim to be true.
iKook: But I saw Santa at the mall Apple Store. You didn't see him! I did!
Adult: That was just a clever marketing trick; it's an Apple marketing gimmick.
iKook: No. You are wrong! It _was_ Santa. I saw him. You are a dumb fuck (JR)
Adult: Unfortunately, I repeat: Santa is just a marketing gimmick son.
iKook: Liar! You are a dumb fuck. You are a dick head. ftfy (nospam hallmark)
Adult: How could it possibly be that Santa can fly through the sky like that?
iKook: He does! Apple has a whitepaper on it. Apple said it was so! It's real!
Adult: That's just clever Apple marketing, son. Sorry Santa doesn't exist.
iKook: You are an idiot and a troll and a dickhead and a liar! Santa is real!
(This discussion goes on forever with all the iKooks joining in...)
iKook: You are an asshole. Liar! Liar... Liar... Pants on fire!

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 02:28 UTC

This is added to the permanent record to explain iKook behavior.

Newyana2 wrote:

> Thanks, everybody. I don't use cellphones much so I
> don't have experience with any of this. I do have developer
> mode enabled, for reasons I don't remember now.
>
> Kenny: No LAN. I don't want to get into that. I've got all computers
> configured for no networking, for security.
>
> Keith: Android 9. No luck with either system seeing the other via bluetooth.
>
> V: USB debugging didn't help. I also enabled something
> in there about allow sharing files. No luck. (I changed
> the name for personal reasons. Kind of a dumb name,
> but I wanted it to be recognizable to the regulars.)
>
> Paul: Sure enough, there's a microSD slot hidden under
> the back. A lot of good it does there! There's no slot
> for it in the cover. So... If I buy a microSD card and
> a reader to hook up to a PC, I could use the card (FAT32?)
> to load up PDFs and then I'll be able to see them in
> Android? I could then cut a hole in the cover and keep
> tape over it, to make the slot usable.

While I faithfully tried to help this "defeatist" supposed Android user who
posted this outlandish troll thread essentially saying that he's the only
one on the planet who can't get a USB cable to work with Android, I suggest
others responding take note this is most likely yet another Alan Baker
thread.

His entire intent is to be defeatist about the simplest things about
Android (like copying files between Windows & Android, which is trivial).

He's acting like it's a huuuuuuuuuuuuge deal, in this post, for example, to
do something as trivial as inserting a $20 card into the sd slot.

Classic iKook.
a. Claim to have a problem that nobody has
b. Throw defeatist hurdles into _every_ suggestion
c. Then claim that if it was the iPhone, it would all "just work"

Just watch.

He hasn't gotten to the point of his intended pre-planned payload, which is
he will claim that "I'm leaving Android forever" and "going to Apple".

It's classic.
They do this once a month or more.

The intent isn't to waste our valuable time trying to help them, but more
to their goal, their intent is to complain about Android not working for
the simplest things (which everyone knows works just fine), and then, the
payload is _always_ that they're giving up in frustration on Android.

And moving to Apple.
Because Android so very much frustrates them.

Like their claim they have to "cut a hole" in the case to insert the sd
card, which, they're so childishly low IQ, they don't even realize how
ridiculous they sound as they are desperate to sound defeatist on Android.

What they really hate, by the way, is this datapoint compiled just today:
*0% of iPhones have key modern hardware capabilities - while from 66%*
*to 78% of Android phone have that key modern hardware functionality*
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/vLB-bIF-P5Q>

Seconds after that was posted, guess who the first person to post?
Yup. Alan Baker.

To the fact that three quarters of all current Androids have the headphone
jack and three quarters have the sdcard slot and two thirds have both,
Alan Baker hated those facts, writing...
"That's not a modern feature, nor is there any "standard"
about what sort of headphone jack a smartphone should have. "
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/vLB-bIF-P5Q/m/Xb3P7w_2DQAJ>

What drives these low IQ uneducated iKooks is, as a result of their
inability to process facts like an adult, they _believe_ all Apple
propaganda.

Which is fine - but as a result of being called stupid their whole lives,
they own low self esteem - which Apple products allow them to regain.

But then they lose their self esteem when the truth about Apple comes out.
It's a vicious cycle for them because of the confluence of three traits:
a. Low IQ & no education, and as a result, they can't process facts
b. As a result, they believe everything Apple leads them to believe
c. To the point that they deny all facts that don't fit into their
purely imaginary belief system about their supposed "superiority"
of what is clearly a crippled product line, compared to Android.

And _that_...

_that_...

_That!_ is what the iKooks hate.

The iKooks are like stunted bullies who believe Santa Claus marketing.

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 by: Alan - Thu, 19 Jan 2023 02:30 UTC

On 2023-01-18 17:58, Andy Burnelli wrote:
> Newyana2 wrote:
>
>>   Strange. I don't see any answers at all. I checked on AIOE, just
>> in case. No answers there. Maybe they were people I block. ("Andy
>> Burnelli" is also someone I block.) I never used to block anyone, but
>> I got tired of nonsense and rudeness, like this one telling me I'm
>> a liar.
>
> Classic Alan Baker...

Wow.

You're really quite butthurt by me, huh?

>
> I knew, from the start, this thread had the hallmark of the iKooks.
> *Moving files* by Newyana2
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/MFjtFd_f430>
> And... *Copying files -- Win10 laptop to Android cellphone*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/LbhmR25ySTQ>
>
> 1. We've established beyond any reasonable doubt this thread is a troll.
> 2. We've also established this "new" poster is a brazen liar.
> 3. Based on this troll's history, it's doubtful the troll even has an
> Android, as this thread fit the Alan Baker pattern from the get go.
>
> Here's the classic Alan Baker approach... which, by the way, he used
> today and yesterday in this thread, so it's easy to show the iKook MO:
> *find my car*
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM>
>
> Notice what transpired on the _android_ newsgroup (not Apple! Android):
> A. Someone asked a question
> B. Ten people responded, nine of whom posted rather detailed help
> C. One though, Alan Baker, merely posted this, as his first "help"
>   "Sure! It's called an iPhone!
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM/m/pVVUGbCxDQAJ>
> D. Then Alan posted yet again his iPhone propaganda to Android threads:
>   "Or you get an iPhone... "

Yup.

Enjoyed it, too!

>
> <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.mobile.android/c/VYqRnd9t6dM/m/BS3p60LnDQAJ>
>
> Notice the iKooks _hate_ that Android isn't crippled like iOS is.
> So they post that drivel which is _never_ intended to be helpful.
>
> The same thing happened in this thread, ostensibly about "copying files".
>
> 1. Alan Baker creates a new nym & posts a defeatist Android post;

Nope.

> 2. In that defeatist message body, he claims nothing works on Android;

Nope.

> 3. At the first chance he gets, he brings in that iOS just works;

It does just work for finding your car. I use it all the time and never
think twice.

> 4. He repeats this propaganda, daily (which is the iKook MO).
I haven't created a nym, Arlen. I had nothing to do with any post other
than the ones under my own name.

If only you could say the same, huh?

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