I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one phone
to another, and thanks again for the advice.

This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
unlocked. On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :

Invalid SIM Card
Network Locked SIM card inserted

Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the latter
can it be easily resolved ?

Thanks

Adrian
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Adrian wrote:

> Network Locked SIM card inserted

Have you got the PUK for the SIM?

might have been included in the packaging, or on the larger SIM
"carrier" or might have to ask network for it.

In message <l72i2pFnlatU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
<usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
>Adrian wrote:
>
>> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>
>Have you got the PUK for the SIM?
>

Not that I've been able to find. The current SIM came with the phone
that I'm replacing, and that was 6.5 years ago.

>might have been included in the packaging, or on the larger SIM
>"carrier" or might have to ask network for it.

I suspect that will have to be the answer. A trip into town tomorrow to
the O2 shop.

Thanks

Adrian
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On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one phone
> to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>
> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
> unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>
> Invalid SIM Card
> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>
> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the latter
> can it be easily resolved ?
>
> Thanks
>

Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card inserted."
This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network so it would
suggest you phone is locked to a different network?

In message <uuh88j$39dba$1@dont-email.me>, Woody
<harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes
>On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>>phone to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
>>unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>> Invalid SIM Card
>> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the
>>latter can it be easily resolved ?
>> Thanks
>>
>
>Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
>inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network so
>it would suggest you phone is locked to a different network?
>

That may well be the case, but the phone was sold (and marked with a
sticker) saying unlocked. That said, I was a bit surprised when it
insisted that it needed a couple of EE apps installing, even though I'm
not using EE. Perhaps I ought to revisit the phone supplier to get them
to confirm that it is unlocked.

Adrian
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Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:

> On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>> phone to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
>> unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>> Invalid SIM Card
>> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the
>> latter can it be easily resolved ?
>> Thanks
>>
>
> Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
> inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network so
> it would suggest you phone is locked to a different network?

Surely most SIM cards are locked to a network?

Am 02/04/2024 um 14:01 schrieb Adrian:
> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one phone
> to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>
> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
> unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>
> Invalid SIM Card
> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>
> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the latter
> can it be easily resolved ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Adrian

It means the phone is sim-locked. Yes, it can be solved, there is 3rd
party software that can unlock the phone, probably not legal. Or you can
pay a release fee from the original provided. Some do that for free (O2
can do that, I think).

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Am 02/04/2024 um 20:17 schrieb Richmond:
> Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:
>
>> On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>>> phone to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>>> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as
>>> unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>>> Invalid SIM Card
>>> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>>> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the
>>> latter can it be easily resolved ?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>> Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
>> inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network so
>> it would suggest you phone is locked to a different network?
>
> Surely most SIM cards are locked to a network?

I am pretty sure the message comes from the phone.

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In message <2HFY4mRi5EDmFwcn@ku.gro.lloiff>, Adrian
<bulleid@ku.gro.lioff> writes
>In message <uuh88j$39dba$1@dont-email.me>, Woody
><harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes
>>On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>>>phone to another, and thanks again for the advice.
>>> This morning I bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold
>>>as unlocked.  On putting in my SIM card, I get the message :
>>> Invalid SIM Card
>>> Network Locked SIM card inserted
>>> Is this a problem with the phone, or with my SIM card, and if the
>>>latter can it be easily resolved ?
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>
>>Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
>>inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network so
>>would suggest you phone is locked to a different network?
>>
>
>That may well be the case, but the phone was sold (and marked with a
>sticker) saying unlocked. That said, I was a bit surprised when it
>insisted that it needed a couple of EE apps installing, even though I'm
>not using EE. Perhaps I ought to revisit the phone supplier to get
>them to confirm that it is unlocked.
>

Back to the supplier this morning. It appears that the phone was locked
to EE. No problem, they've got another one of the same model. That was
tested in the shop, and it was also locked to a network. Third time
lucky, same model, but unlocked. I phoned home from the shop, and it
connected. Shop was at a loss as to how two phones had been tested and
marked as unlocked, but would investigate.

Thanks for the assistance.

Adrian
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Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> writes:

> Am 02/04/2024 um 20:17 schrieb Richmond: > Woody
><harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>>>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>>>> phone to another, and thanks again for the advice. This morning I
>>>> bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as unlocked.  On
>>>> putting in my SIM card, I get the message : Invalid SIM Card
>>>> Network Locked SIM card inserted Is this a problem with the phone,
>>>> or with my SIM card, and if the latter can it be easily resolved ?
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>
>>> Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
>>> inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network
>>> so it would suggest you phone is locked to a different network? >>
>>> Surely most SIM cards are locked to a network?
>
> I am pretty sure the message comes from the phone.

As a result of this thread I came across this:

https://anywheresim.com/

A SIM card which can use any network!

Calls 10p, texts 5p

Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It means the phone is sim-locked. Yes, it can be solved, there is 3rd
> party software that can unlock the phone, probably not legal. Or you can
> pay a release fee from the original provided. Some do that for free (O2
> can do that, I think).

It's free from EE, you just fill in a form:

https://ee.co.uk/help/mobile/manage-use/unlock-device/unlock-an-ee-device-to-use-with-another-network

On 03/04/2024 11:57, Theo wrote:
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> It means the phone is sim-locked. Yes, it can be solved, there is 3rd
>> party software that can unlock the phone, probably not legal. Or you can
>> pay a release fee from the original provided. Some do that for free (O2
>> can do that, I think).
>
> It's free from EE, you just fill in a form:
>
> https://ee.co.uk/help/mobile/manage-use/unlock-device/unlock-an-ee-device-to-use-with-another-network

I investigated this for my BT 4G Assure dongle plugged in to my router
which gives me the broadband connection over Three that I'm using to
write this:

https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2021/mobile-companies-now-banned-from-selling-locked-handsets

As a result, when I rang BT, they gave me an unlock code for free.

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On 11:15 3 Apr 2024, Richmond said:
> Ottavio Caruso <ottavio2006-usenet2012@yahoo.com> writes:
>> Am 02/04/2024 um 20:17 schrieb Richmond: > Woody
>><harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes:
>>>> On Tue 02/04/2024 14:01, Adrian wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I recently asked here about how easy it was to transfer from one
>>>>> phone to another, and thanks again for the advice. This morning I
>>>>> bought another (second hand) phone, which was sold as unlocked.  On
>>>>> putting in my SIM card, I get the message : Invalid SIM Card
>>>>> Network Locked SIM card inserted Is this a problem with the phone,
>>>>> or with my SIM card, and if the latter can it be easily resolved ?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Surely the answer is in the wording? "Network Locked SIM card
>>>> inserted." This means that the SIM is locked to a specific network
>>>> so it would suggest you phone is locked to a different network? >>
>>>> Surely most SIM cards are locked to a network?
>>
>> I am pretty sure the message comes from the phone.
>
> As a result of this thread I came across this:
>
> https://anywheresim.com/
>
> A SIM card which can use any network!
>
> Calls 10p, texts 5p

Google says Pangea also offers "unsteered" SIMs (a.k.a. "UK roaming"),
although I don't know the company and I'm not sure they sell to end
users.

https://pangea-group.net/multi-network-sims/