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 by: Nomen Nescio - Mon, 18 Sep 2023 14:42 UTC

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/still-paying-antivirus-software-
experts-say-probably-dont-need-rcna6335

Viruses are no longer the biggest threats for most users, particularly
now that software updates itself automatically and so much personal
computing happens over the internet.

Dec. 1, 2021, 11:00 AM UTC
By Kevin Collier

Josh Brunty had spent more than a decade in cybersecurity � first as a
digital forensics analyst for the West Virginia State Police, then as
someone who taught the subject at Marshall University � when he
discovered a shocking secret about his father, Butch.

Butch Brunty was still paying money every year for third-party
antivirus protection on his home computer, which his son felt hadn�t
been necessary for most people for years.

�He was talking about renewing his antivirus. I said, �Are you
literally paying for antivirus?�� Brunty said. �I don�t know how he
ended up doing it, but he ended up getting connected to Norton,
spending, like, $60 a year.�

Brunty�s father, like a lot of other people, hadn�t gotten the message
that has become intuitive to many people who work in cybersecurity:
There�s just no longer any reason for regular people to pay for
antivirus software for their personal devices.

It�s a shift that highlights not only how computer security has evolved
in the past decade but also the way many people misunderstand the
greatest threats to their computer security.

Antivirus software still centers on its original use: looking for and
mitigating software viruses. Because modern computer systems already do
that, many programs now offer additional protections, like monitoring
the dark web to see whether someone posts customers� personal
information, which experts find to be of little use.

But the greatest threats most users face are no longer from viruses,
particularly now that so much personal computing happens over the
internet.

Brunty said his dad also paid for a virtual private network, which
routes a computer�s internet traffic through a third party. They were
once considered vital to prevent nearby hackers from spying on online
activity, but security experts now say that thanks to additional built-
in security protections in most major browsers, virtual private
networks are useful in only a handful of specific scenarios, like
streaming video that is restricted in certain countries or getting
around government censors like China�s �Great Firewall.�

�He had no understanding of those two technologies, really,� Brunty
said. �I think he just felt like if he spent the money, the investment
of paying for it was going to protect him from everything.�

Some antivirus programs can offer certain benefits, such as tools that
help users avoid email-based phishing campaigns that steal sensitive
login credentials. Others can help prevent identity theft.

But most experts agree that the built-in antivirus protections on any
major system � a fully updated Windows or Apple computer or an Android
phone or iPhone � already protect against viruses just as well as the
major programs people can pay for. It�s important, however, for users
to keep their systems protected through automatic software updates
offered by all major software providers.
Patchwork

It wasn�t always that way. For much of Microsoft�s history, computer
experts worried that Windows machines were susceptible to viruses, and
there was no firm consensus about what third-party programs people
needed to stay safe.

But Microsoft Defender, the free and automatic antivirus program now
built into Windows, has gotten so effective that it�s as good as
anything customers can pay for, said Simon Edwards, the founder of SE
Labs, a London-based company that compares and tests antivirus programs.

�We test it regularly, and it�s one of the top products we�ve seen. It
has improved a lot,� Edwards said.

That doesn�t mean malicious software isn�t a threat. But newer devices
tend to take care of most problems on their own. Hackers are constantly
devising new ways to break into operating systems, and companies have
to keep updating ways to stop them. Fortunately, the days of
cybersecurity engineers� writing patches for new, safer versions of
software and just hoping users will update them is largely over.

�It�s almost impossible these days to not have a fully patched Windows
or Mac system, because they pretty much force updates,� Edwards said.

While it�s a myth that Macs can�t get viruses, the myth is well-
founded: Macs essentially had antivirus protections built into their
operating systems from their early days. The same goes for iPhones and
Android smartphones. The British government even tells its residents
not to bother buying antivirus software for their phones, provided that
they don�t needlessly endanger themselves by installing programs not
vetted by an app store.

Butch Brunty isn�t alone. A survey by Security.org, a cybersecurity
advice website, estimated that nearly 45 million households pay for
antivirus software. It also found that people are increasingly more
likely to pay for antivirus software the older they are and that most
have been using it for years. The dynamic has been observed in other
parts of the technology world, such as people who continued to pay AOL
for internet service even though they had other internet providers.

McAfee, the once-ubiquitous Windows antivirus program, still has more
than 20 million paying customers, a spokesperson said. More than half
of the revenue the antivirus company Malwarebytes made last year came
from personal users, a spokesperson for the company said. Other major
antivirus companies, including Norton, ESET and Kaspersky, didn�t
respond to emailed requests for such information.

But trying to stay secure by relying on antivirus software misses the
way hackers have evolved, said Bob Lord, who revamped the Democratic
National Committee�s cybersecurity strategy for the 2018 and 2020
elections after the party was hacked by Russian intelligence in 2016.

�When I look at all the personal account compromises I�ve seen over the
past three years, I don�t think any of them were caused by malware,�
Lord said. �They happened because the victims had poor password hygiene
and didn�t have two-factor authentication on their accounts.�

What to do instead

The good news is that almost all of the tools everyone should be
relying on to be more secure are free.

Hackers today are most likely to target regular people by trying to
take over their personal accounts for email, social media or financial
websites. It�s easier to stop them when you know that their goal is �to
impersonate you and take over an account you want to keep private,�
said Harlo Holmes, the chief information security officer at the
Freedom of the Press Foundation, where she advises journalists around
the world about the best ways to protect themselves from hackers.

That means using unique passphrases � several words together, which are
easier to remember than a string of random characters � because the
longer a password is, the harder it is for an automated program to
guess. People should also protect every important account with two-
factor authentication. That lets users use their phones as a second way
to prove their identities to websites, which gives hackers an
additional hurdle if they�re trying to get into one of their accounts.

Experts recommend using an app like Google Authenticator or Authy when
you set up two-factor authentication, rather than through a text
message, which dedicated hackers can intercept.
Extra features

Some for-purchase antivirus products come bundled with additional
benefits that address more modern concerns, like monitoring whether
customers� passwords have been included in a giant dump of stolen
credentials or telling them whether criminals are sharing their
personal information on the dark web.

But most of the services either do little or are available elsewhere
for free, said Susan Grant, the director of consumer protection and
privacy at the Consumer Federation of America, a nonprofit group that
serves as an umbrella organization for consumer advocacy groups.

�There�s a limit to what that type of service actually provides,� Grant
said. �They don�t prevent you from becoming an identity theft victim.
They can�t prevent your information from ending up on the dark web, and
they can�t remove it. They can just alert you.�

The website Have I Been Pwned lets everyone check which of their
accounts and passwords have been stolen and traded. The Federal Trade
Commission offers a free guide for people who have had their identities
stolen, as does the nonprofit Identity Theft Resource Center.

�It may make people feel better to pay for such a service,� Grant said.
But �the advice that you get is available from other sources for
nothing.�
Kevin Collier

Kevin Collier is a reporter covering cybersecurity, privacy and
technology policy for NBC News.

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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 14:18:45 +0000, David Brooks <BDB@invalid.invalid.uk> wrote:
>*Experts say

https://www.myabandonware.com/game/chess-1q2
>My Abandonware > Strategy > Chess
>Chess
>DOS - 1981
>Alt name Chess C.4
>Year 1981
>Platform DOS
>Released in United States
>Genre Strategy
>Theme Chess
>Publisher International PC Owners
>Perspective Top-Down
>4.08 / 5 - 12 votes
>DOWNLOAD
>23kb
>https://www.myabandonware.com/download/1pz-chess
(Chess_DOS_EN.zip / 1 Files, 0 Folders), extracted . . .
(chess.exe / 48.0 KB)
>Description of Chess
>1981, the year Chess was released on DOS. Published by International PC Owners,
>this strategy game is available for free on this page.
>External links
>Captures and Snapshots
>Comments and reviews
>Fruta 2023-05-24 0 point
>I actually think this program has to be some kind of a joke. The computer starts
>playing like a crappy chess AI and when it doesn�t have any way to save it's ass
>the king starts making illegal moves and taking your pieces like a heat seeking
>missile.
>greg 2021-01-25 -1 point
>how do i install grandmaster on dosbox
>BenRedic 2018-06-13 0 point
>I came over this game again, and a couple of things are clear:
>This is not at all a commercial grade program, it is an amateur program released
>into Public Domain. The game is originally written in BASIC ca 1980. This means
>it predates MS-DOS/PC-DOS, and was probably originally developed in BASIC on CP/M.
>The PC-SIG library (a vast collection of PD and user supported programs) contains
>at least 5 different versions of this program, all of which appear to be some
>modification of the original BASIC program. Some modifications may be bugfixes or
>to enable it to run under different BASIC implementations, other simply added
>PRINT statements saying where the file was downloaded from. There's also
>different compiled EXEs, such as the one present here.
>BenRedic 2016-08-03 0 point
>Plays a pretty crappy game, even for it's time. And it has a weird bug; When it
>gets a completely lost, it tends to make illegal king moves:
>(level 24)
>1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 d5 3.Nxe5 dxe4 4.Nc3 Qd4 5.Qh5 Be6 6.Nb5 Qd5 7.Nxc7+ Ke7 8.Nxd5+
>Bxd5 9.d3 exd3 10.Bxd3 Bxg2 11.Qg5+ Nf6 12.Qxg2 Kd6 13.Nxf7+ Kc5 14.Be3+
>Illegal move Ke6.
>Kb4 is the only legal move, which would have been followed by 15.Qxb7+ and 16.Qb5#
>Plenty of better options exist if you are interested in early 80s computer chess.
>Try Psion or MyChess for MS-DOS, or Sargon or Microchess for Apple II or the
>Commodore computers (PET, VIC20, C64).
[end quote]

https://www.mobygames.com/game/15948/chess/
>...
>Chess is one of the oldest PC games ever made: it was written in March, 1980
>and converted to IBM PC in December, 1981. This is probably the very first
>chess game running in MS-DOS.
>Taking it's age into account, it's no surprise that the game features only
>text-mode graphics. The chess board and the pieces are drawn using ASCII
>characters. For the same reason, it's also no surprise that the user input
>is based just on keyboard commands.
>In Chess there is no multiplayer mode - you play only against the computer.
>As usual, in this kind of game, you can select the A.I.'s skill level.
>The game offers 24 difficulty levels.
>...
[end quoted excerpt]

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