Hi,

I've set up a large number of file areas based on the Filegate list.

What's the best way of tickit.js automatically hatching files into the areas? (The codes will match).

So far, it seems I have to manually add entries into tickit.ini which is becoming monotonous.

I see there is an AutoAreas option _but_ it requires feeding a CSV of _all_ the file areas, if I'm parsing the documentation correctly.

Is there a way of making this more automated?

Thanks,

Mewcenary.

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To: Mewcenary
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Mewcenary to All on Tue Mar 01 2022 10:03 pm

> I see there is an AutoAreas option _but_ it requires feeding a CSV of _all_
> the file areas, if I'm parsing the documentation correctly.

No, you just specify the file *library* names (in tickit.ini), e.g.
AutoAreas=fsxNet,FidoNet
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To: Digital Man
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Tue Mar 01 2022 02:47 pm

>> I see there is an AutoAreas option _but_ it requires feeding a CSV of _all_
>> the file areas, if I'm parsing the documentation correctly.

DM> No, you just specify the file *library* names (in tickit.ini), e.g.
DM> AutoAreas=fsxNet,FidoNet

Thanks for this.

The challenge for me now is that the documentation says the 'directory names' need to be valid tags.

However, my directory names (default as created when you import) are of the format:

FIDONET_NODELIST

With the generated 'FIDONET_' prefix.

This seems to fail to match an area tag of 'NODELIST'.

What's the best way forward with this?

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To: Mewcenary

On 2022 Mar 01 22:03:14, you wrote to All:

Me> What's the best way of tickit.js automatically hatching files into the
Me> areas? (The codes will match).

just a note that TickIt does not hatch files... it only processes TICs and their associated file to add them to your filebase and send them on to linked systems that have not yet seen the file in question...

hatching files is the process of injecting a file and its TIC into the FDN distribution stream...

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To: mark lewis
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: mark lewis to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 07:06 am

ML> just a note that TickIt does not hatch files... it only processes TICs and their associated file to add them to your filebase
ML> and send them on to linked systems that have not yet seen the file in question...

ML> hatching files is the process of injecting a file and its TIC into the FDN distribution stream...

Ah, thank you kindly for clarifying this for me.

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To: Mewcenary
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Mewcenary to Digital Man on Wed Mar 02 2022 07:14 am

> Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
> By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Tue Mar 01 2022 02:47 pm
>
> >> I see there is an AutoAreas option _but_ it requires feeding a CSV of
> _all_
> >> the file areas, if I'm parsing the documentation correctly.
>
> DM> No, you just specify the file *library* names (in tickit.ini), e.g.
> DM> AutoAreas=fsxNet,FidoNet
>
> Thanks for this.
>
> The challenge for me now is that the documentation says the 'directory
> names' need to be valid tags.
>
> However, my directory names (default as created when you import) are of the
> format:
>
> FIDONET_NODELIST
>
> With the generated 'FIDONET_' prefix.

Are you sure that's not the "internal code" you're looking at?

> This seems to fail to match an area tag of 'NODELIST'.
>
> What's the best way forward with this?

In the latest Synchronet builds (I think in v3.19b too), there's a "FidoNet
Area Tag" field. Set that to match the proper area tag and then the other fields (long/short name, internal code) can be whatever you like.
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To: Digital Man
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:38 am

>> With the generated 'FIDONET_' prefix.

DM> Are you sure that's not the "internal code" you're looking at?

Ah, yes, you are correct.

DM> In the latest Synchronet builds (I think in v3.19b too), there's a "FidoNet
DM> Area Tag" field. Set that to match the proper area tag and then the other fields (long/short name, internal code) can be
DM> whatever you like. --

Thanks Rob. So, following from this:

1. The 'Import Areas' tool in scfg doesn't auto-populate this Tag when importing from a FILEGATE format file. What's the easiest way to set them to be the (current) internal code as part of this process?

2. Suggestion: Can tickit be adjusted so that AutoAreas also works if the 'FidoNet Area Tag' field matches?

Mewcenary.

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To: Mewcenary
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Mewcenary to Digital Man on Wed Mar 02 2022 06:40 pm

> Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
> By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 09:38 am
>
> >> With the generated 'FIDONET_' prefix.
>
> DM> Are you sure that's not the "internal code" you're looking at?
>
> Ah, yes, you are correct.
>
> DM> In the latest Synchronet builds (I think in v3.19b too), there's a
> DM> "FidoNet
> DM> Area Tag" field. Set that to match the proper area tag and then the
> DM> other fields (long/short name, internal code) can be
> DM> whatever you like. --
>
> Thanks Rob. So, following from this:
>
> 1. The 'Import Areas' tool in scfg doesn't auto-populate this Tag when
> importing from a FILEGATE format file. What's the easiest way to set them
> to be the (current) internal code as part of this process?

There's an algorithm to determine a directory's area tag. If the area tag setting is blank, it falls back to the short name (replacing spaces with underscores) - automatically.

> 2. Suggestion: Can tickit be adjusted so that AutoAreas also works if the
> 'FidoNet Area Tag' field matches?

It already does.
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To: Digital Man
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 05:00 pm

>> 2. Suggestion: Can tickit be adjusted so that AutoAreas also works if the
>> 'FidoNet Area Tag' field matches?

DM> It already does.

Ah, this is great, thank you. Tested it earlier and it's working perfectly. Thanks for your help.

Mewcenary.

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To: Digital Man
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 05:00 pm

> > DM> In the latest Synchronet builds (I think in v3.19b too), there's a
> > DM> "FidoNet
> > DM> Area Tag" field. Set that to match the proper area tag and then the
> > DM> other fields (long/short name, internal code) can be
> > DM> whatever you like. --

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I have the AutoAreas=FIDONEWS,NASA,... My shortname is FIDONEWS for FidoNews, NASA for NASA, yet I still get the following:

Reading script from /sbbs/exec/tickit.js
/sbbs/exec/tickit.js compiled in 0.00 seconds
TickIT 2.0
Parsing ../fido/inbound/AP220307.tic
Working with 'AP220307.ZIP' in 'NASA'.
Unable to find path for area 'NASA'!
Abandoning ../fido/inbound/AP220307.tic
Parsing ../fido/inbound/FNEWTD10.tic
Working with 'FNEWTD10.ZIP' in 'FIDONEWS'.
Unable to find path for area 'FIDONEWS'!
Abandoning ../fido/inbound/FNEWTD10.tic
/sbbs/exec/tickit.js executed in 0.12 seconds

NASA is configured as...

[NASA Directory]
1: Long Name NASA: Earth & Space Science Material
2: Short Name NASA
3: Internal Code FTNFIDONNASA
4: FidoNet Area Tag [NASA]

Am I missing something?

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To: Dream Master
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Dream Master to Digital Man on Mon Mar 07 2022 09:39 am

> Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
> By: Digital Man to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 02 2022 05:00 pm
>
> > > DM> In the latest Synchronet builds (I think in v3.19b too), there's
> > > DM> a "FidoNet
> > > DM> Area Tag" field. Set that to match the proper area tag and then
> > > DM> the other fields (long/short name, internal code) can be
> > > DM> whatever you like. --
>
> Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I have the AutoAreas=FIDONEWS,NASA,...
> My shortname is FIDONEWS for FidoNews, NASA for NASA, yet I still get the
> following:
>
> Reading script from /sbbs/exec/tickit.js
> /sbbs/exec/tickit.js compiled in 0.00 seconds
> TickIT 2.0
> Parsing ../fido/inbound/AP220307.tic
> Working with 'AP220307.ZIP' in 'NASA'.
> Unable to find path for area 'NASA'!
> Abandoning ../fido/inbound/AP220307.tic
> Parsing ../fido/inbound/FNEWTD10.tic
> Working with 'FNEWTD10.ZIP' in 'FIDONEWS'.
> Unable to find path for area 'FIDONEWS'!
> Abandoning ../fido/inbound/FNEWTD10.tic
> /sbbs/exec/tickit.js executed in 0.12 seconds
>
> NASA is configured as...
>
> [NASA Directory]
> 1: Long Name NASA: Earth & Space Science Material
> 2: Short Name NASA
> 3: Internal Code FTNFIDONNASA
> 4: FidoNet Area Tag [NASA]
>
> Am I missing something?

Yes, AutoAreas is a list of library short names, not directory short names.
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To: Mewcenary
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: Mewcenary to All on Tue Mar 01 2022 10:03 pm

Me> Hi,

Me> I've set up a large number of file areas based on the Filegate list.

Me> What's the best way of tickit.js automatically hatching files into the
Me> areas? (The codes will match).

I think if you want to hatch files, you might want to use something like Allfix and have them send them out with a TIC file, otherwise, to import the files coming in, it might be easier to use TICKIT to fetch the TIC file in your inbound then using ADDFILES to add the files. Luckily, there's still a file_id.diz in some zips with all the glorious file information we need.
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To: cr1mson
Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
By: cr1mson to Mewcenary on Wed Mar 09 2022 07:54 pm

> Re: tickit - AutoAreas for ALL areas?
> By: Mewcenary to All on Tue Mar 01 2022 10:03 pm
>
> Me> Hi,
>
> Me> I've set up a large number of file areas based on the Filegate list.
>
> Me> What's the best way of tickit.js automatically hatching files into the
> Me> areas? (The codes will match).
>
> I think if you want to hatch files, you might want to use something like
> Allfix

Or HatchIT.js <shrug>
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