Hello!

That article has that User-Agent header:
http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E

Does anybody know more about this software?
IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.

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kind regards
Marco Moock

Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> That article has that User-Agent header:
> <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E>
>
> Does anybody know more about this software?
> IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
>

This may be a clue:

<https://www.youswear.com/sitemap.asp?language=Russian&word=Dolbo+yeb>

"What does "Dolbo yeb" mean in Russian?
One english translation is "Dumb Fuck" -"

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^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just said maybe.

Am 19.10.2023 um 14:34:50 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:

> Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > That article has that User-Agent header:
> > <http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E>
> >
> > Does anybody know more about this software?
> > IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
> >
>
> This may be a clue:
>
> <https://www.youswear.com/sitemap.asp?language=Russian&word=Dolbo+yeb>
>
> "What does "Dolbo yeb" mean in Russian?
> One english translation is "Dumb Fuck" -"

долбоёб is the word you mean.
I am not a Russian native speaker, so I dunno if "Dolbo/долбо" is a
common abbreviation of it.

Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> That article has that User-Agent header:
> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E
>
> Does anybody know more about this software?
> IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.

My guess: the poster configured their NNTP client to use a bogus User
Agent string.

For example, you can have Thunderbird send a different UA header by
[creating and] editing the general.useragent.override setting.

User-Agent: Dolbo/6.9.2-20190728 ("Leprosorium") (UNIX) (Solaris 5.11)

Solaris? Geesh, I haven't worked on that old OS for over 20 years.
That was before Oracle acquired Sun (so Oracle also got Sun's Java).
Current version is Solaris 11.4.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris

"Leprosorium" seems close to "leprosy". Just checked. Leprosarium is a
hospital for leprosy patients. 'a' instead of 'o' --------^
There is a leprosorium.ru web site.

Looks like a bogus/user-specified UA string.

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Am 19.10.2023 um 14:34:50 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:
>
> > Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > That article has that User-Agent header:
>>><http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E>
> > >
> > > Does anybody know more about this software?
> > > IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
> > >
> >
> > This may be a clue:
> >
> > <https://www.youswear.com/sitemap.asp?language=Russian&word=Dolbo+yeb>
> >
> > "What does "Dolbo yeb" mean in Russian?
> > One english translation is "Dumb Fuck" -"
> >
>
> ??????? is the word you mean.
> I am not a Russian native speaker, so I dunno if "Dolbo/?????" is a
> common abbreviation of it.
>

That doesn't render on my ancient 'reader.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just said maybe.

Am 19.10.2023 um 22:15:35 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:

> Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>
> > Am 19.10.2023 um 14:34:50 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:
> >
> > > Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > That article has that User-Agent header:
> >>><http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E>
> > > >
> > > > Does anybody know more about this software?
> > > > IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
> > > >
> > >
> > > This may be a clue:
> > >
> > > <https://www.youswear.com/sitemap.asp?language=Russian&word=Dolbo+yeb>
> > >
> > > "What does "Dolbo yeb" mean in Russian?
> > > One english translation is "Dumb Fuck" -"
> > >
> >
> > ??????? is the word you mean.
> > I am not a Russian native speaker, so I dunno if "Dolbo/?????" is a
> > common abbreviation of it.
> >
>
> That doesn't render on my ancient 'reader.

Does your system support (installed?) Cyrillic (Russian) charset?
In Claws Mail it renders fine.

Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:

> Am 19.10.2023 um 22:15:35 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:
>
> > Marco Moock <mm+usenet-es@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> >
> > > Am 19.10.2023 um 14:34:50 Uhr schrieb Sn!pe:
> > >
> > > > Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello!
> > > > >
> > > > > That article has that User-Agent header:
>>>>><http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E>
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anybody know more about this software?
> > > > > IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > This may be a clue:
> > > >
> > > > <https://www.youswear.com/sitemap.asp?language=Russian&word=Dolbo+yeb>
> > > >
> > > > "What does "Dolbo yeb" mean in Russian?
> > > > One english translation is "Dumb Fuck" -"
> > > >
> > >
> > > ??????? is the word you mean.
> > > I am not a Russian native speaker, so I dunno if "Dolbo/?????" is a
> > > common abbreviation of it.
> > >
> >
> > That doesn't render on my ancient 'reader.
> >
>
> Does your system support (installed?) Cyrillic (Russian) charset?
> In Claws Mail it renders fine.
>

The system does, but MacSOUP doesn't because it has only a limited
set of fonts available to it. I can't read exotic scripts anyway, so it
doesn't matter to me.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just said maybe.

On 10/19/23 19:38, VanguardLH wrote:
> Marco Moock <mm+solani@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
>
>> That article has that User-Agent header:
>> http://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3Cugpd2t%243rnjq%241%40paganini.bofh.team%3E
>>
>> Does anybody know more about this software?
>> IIRC some posts had "Dolbo generator" in their UA field.
>
> My guess: the poster configured their NNTP client to use a bogus User
> Agent string.
>
> For example, you can have Thunderbird send a different UA header by
> [creating and] editing the general.useragent.override setting.
>
> User-Agent: Dolbo/6.9.2-20190728 ("Leprosorium") (UNIX) (Solaris 5.11)
>
> Solaris? Geesh, I haven't worked on that old OS for over 20 years.
> That was before Oracle acquired Sun (so Oracle also got Sun's Java).
> Current version is Solaris 11.4.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Solaris
>
> "Leprosorium" seems close to "leprosy". Just checked. Leprosarium is a
> hospital for leprosy patients. 'a' instead of 'o' --------^
> There is a leprosorium.ru web site.
>
> Looks like a bogus/user-specified UA string.

If you would believe, someone forked OpenSolaris, and there's still a
bit of work on it today as "illumos" (lowercase letter I for Indigo is
correct).

--
Lightning Bjornsson
When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
emails on a single account.

The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:

> --
> Lightning Bjornsson
> When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
> dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
> to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
> emails on a single account.

Please reduce your sig to 4 lines, or less, per Usenetiquette. Really
don't need to explain your e-mail address, so eliminate berating ES.
2 lines would cover your sig, like:

Lightning Bjornsson
When replying via email, use dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net.

Since the From header already gives your name, and the 1st sig line
duplicates that info, just use the 2nd line for a 1-line sig.

On 10/24/23 01:11, VanguardLH wrote:
> The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:
>
>> --
>> Lightning Bjornsson
>> When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
>> dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
>> to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
>> emails on a single account.
>
> Please reduce your sig to 4 lines, or less, per Usenetiquette. Really
> don't need to explain your e-mail address, so eliminate berating ES.
> 2 lines would cover your sig, like:
>
> Lightning Bjornsson
> When replying via email, use dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net.
>
> Since the From header already gives your name, and the 1st sig line
> duplicates that info, just use the 2nd line for a 1-line sig.
Thirty years ago, in the month ES is named after, you paid by the byte.
Now it's many gigabytes or more before things get expensive, even on
high cost links.

If you don't like long sigs, you can filter them yourself, or you can
killfile their known users.
--
Lightning Bjornsson
When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
emails on a single account.

The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:

[...]

> If you don't like long sigs, you can filter them yourself,
> or you can killfile their known users.

Good advice.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just is.

% wrote:

> 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Jen 🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 Dershmender 💐
🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🐶笛🌈💐🌻🌺🌹🌻💐🌷🌺🌈 wrote:
>> On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 17:54:47 +0100, LO AND BEHOLD; WARNING:
>> "Injection-Info: snipe.eternal-september.org" detected, therefore some
>> british guy who was apprehended by bobbies in Lancashire having been
>> accused of molesting several stones and pebbles in the area is on the
>> loose once again. He may possibly be spotted in his natural
>> environment of usenet ko0k froups demonstrating his UPA where he
>> pretends that he's a bird that somehow is also a telepathic/spiritual
>> conduit for a pet rock named Gordon that he purchased from a Roma
>> fortune teller while completely fscked on lsd in 1971. He presently
>> poasts his fascist and white supremacist-leaning sentiments using
>> upwards of 3 ridiculous nyms including: "snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe)"
>> DO NOT APPROACH HIM, as he has a pointy beak and is very very angry at
>> the way that the tide is turning for white privilege and he determined
>> that the following was of great importance and subsequently decided to
>> freely share it with us in
>> <1qj49pb.1c9zsvrqx83z9N%snipeco.2@gmail.com>:
>>
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡The✡Bjornsdottirs✡-
✡Lightning✡<zerda@umbrellix.net>✡wrote:
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡[...]
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?
=✡If✡you✡don't✡like✡long✡sigs,✡you✡can✡filter✡them✡yourself,✡or✡you✡can
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?
=✡killfile✡their✡known✡users.
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡Good✡advice.✡
>> =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=✡
>>
>> Another solution is shown below:
>>
> salute this

Wh…what in the goddamn fuck is happening here??

--

The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:

> On 10/24/23 01:11, VanguardLH wrote:
>> The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:
>>
>>> --
>>> Lightning Bjornsson
>>> When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
>>> dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
>>> to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
>>> emails on a single account.
>>
>> Please reduce your sig to 4 lines, or less, per Usenetiquette. Really
>> don't need to explain your e-mail address, so eliminate berating ES.
>> 2 lines would cover your sig, like:
>>
>> Lightning Bjornsson
>> When replying via email, use dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net.
>>
>> Since the From header already gives your name, and the 1st sig line
>> duplicates that info, just use the 2nd line for a 1-line sig.
> Thirty years ago, in the month ES is named after, you paid by the byte.
> Now it's many gigabytes or more before things get expensive, even on
> high cost links.
>
> If you don't like long sigs, you can filter them yourself, or you can
> killfile their known users.

It's not about how much bandwidth you get now versus then. It's about
being polite with short sigs. Most times sigs are off-topic fluff,
unnecessary, and the longer they are the more off-topic and fluff they
become. For you, you're on a campaign to slur ES with trivia no one
else cares about.

You post here in plain text, because it is a text newsgroup. You comply
with netiquette. Why not on the sig, too?

By the way, I do filter out sigs. My client will hide anything after,
and including, the sig delimiter line. That's because sigs are rarely
on-topic to the message or newsgroup. Hiding something does not alter
it is there. If I don't want to see traffic passing my house on the
street, I could also draw the drapes. The traffic is still there.
Occasionally I look at the raw source of a message, like to review the
headers. That's when I saw your oversized sig.

4-line, or less, sig blocks have been netiquette for longer than you, or
even I, have been in Usenet. No, you don't have to comply. It's
netiquette, not a limitation of NNTP. It is a de facto standard. I
learned of it when I started Usenet back some 40 years ago. Doing
otherwise is considered rude. Be careful the reputation you engender.

Look at the reputation Good Guy has engendered with his posting of
HTML-formatted messages in text-only newsgroups. He is deliberately
rude, and, yep, many filter him out. You don't want to go that route.

From your reply, looks like you'll continue to do it your way, because
there's nothing to stop you. Okay, get ready to be ignored. Some folks
will announce when they plonk you. Many don't since the announcement is
a vacuous threat. They just plonk without notice. Hard enough these
days to find an audience in Usenet without having regulars ignore you.

The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:

> On 10/24/23 01:11, VanguardLH wrote:
>> The Bjornsdottirs - Lightning <zerda@umbrellix.net> wrote:
>>
>>> --
>>> Lightning Bjornsson
>>> When replying off-Usenet, remember to reply to
>>> dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net. My "email address" is set the way it is due
>>> to Eternal September's nymshifting laws, which forbid using different
>>> emails on a single account.
>>
>> Please reduce your sig to 4 lines, or less, per Usenetiquette. Really
>> don't need to explain your e-mail address, so eliminate berating ES.
>> 2 lines would cover your sig, like:
>>
>> Lightning Bjornsson
>> When replying via email, use dragon.nntp@chatspeed.net.
>>
>> Since the From header already gives your name, and the 1st sig line
>> duplicates that info, just use the 2nd line for a 1-line sig.
> Thirty years ago, in the month ES is named after, you paid by the byte.
> Now it's many gigabytes or more before things get expensive, even on
> high cost links.
>
> If you don't like long sigs, you can filter them yourself, or you can
> killfile their known users.

Oh, in addition, netiquette has you alert when you change the Subject as
you did. When changing the Subject, it should appear as:

Subject: <newSubject> (was: <oldsubject>)

That's netiquette, too.

Notice Snipe agreed with your advice on plonking rude netizens. You
really want to impel others to ignore you? Currently I just hide sigs
as they are typically off-topic worthless fluff. But, if you wish for
me to take your advice, sure, I can filter you out. No problem.

Other netiquette: If you post in Usenet, it stays in Usenet. Taking a
discussion offline is rarely appopriate and usually rude, like your sig
mentions.

VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

[...]

> Oh, in addition, netiquette has you alert when you change the Subject
> as you did. When changing the Subject, it should appear as:
>
> Subject: <newSubject> (was: <oldsubject>)
>
> That's netiquette, too.

[...]

Not only that: a competent Newsreader will recognise the string
"(was: " as a cue to automatically snip the old subject from the
Subject: line.

It isn't just a matter of netiquette, although of course that is
important. Your readers form their opinion of you by the way
you write and behave; they have nothing else to judge by.

--
^Ï^. Sn!pe, PA, FIBS - Professional Crastinator.

My pet rock Gordon just is.

On 10/24/23 8:58 PM, Sn!pe wrote:
> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> Oh, in addition, netiquette has you alert when you change the Subject
>> as you did. When changing the Subject, it should appear as:
>>
>> Subject: <newSubject> (was: <oldsubject>)
>>
>> That's netiquette, too.
>
> [...]
>
> Not only that: a competent Newsreader will recognise the string
> "(was: " as a cue to automatically snip the old subject from the
> Subject: line.
>

Thanks to both of you for pointing out proper netiquette and why, in
some cases, it can be extra helpful!

--
oc