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o Why do you respond to spam message ?David Ritz

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From: dri...@mindspring.com (David Ritz)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc,news.admin.net-abuse.usenet
Subject: Re: Why do you respond to spam message ?
Date: Sun, 9 Apr 2023 13:36:59 -0500
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References: <97f04e3a-73c3-4f28-9f7f-14f5b43b9c0cn@googlegroups.com> <mac23ihtp8shmgi4ao9gdk5npafvud7km9@consensus-omnium> <u0rpnn$13r4$55@gallifrey.nk.ca> <m8833ihmhi14b9hhj3991s3vm1kmcflcgd@consensus-omnium> <u0su7c$2hqd$70@gallifrey.nk.ca>
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X-Comment-1: Spam is bad. <http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/humor/WhatIsSpam.html>
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 by: David Ritz - Sun, 9 Apr 2023 18:36 UTC

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On Saturday, 08 April 2023 23:43 -0000,
in article <u0su7c$2hqd$70@gallifrey.nk.ca>,
Dave "The Doctor" Yadallee <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:

> In article <m8833ihmhi14b9hhj3991s3vm1kmcflcgd@consensus-omnium>,
> llp <librelaparole@alfanet.usenet.ovh> wrote:
> >doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) composa la prose suivante:
> >
> >>In article <mac23ihtp8shmgi4ao9gdk5npafvud7km9@consensus-omnium>,
> >>llp <librelaparole@alfanet.usenet.ovh> wrote:
> >>>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) composa la prose suivante:
> >>>
> >>>>In article <gd313i5us34ebh9cbdumrmam4a93le0p68@consensus-omnium>,
> >>>>llp <librelaparole@alfanet.usenet.ovh> wrote:
> >>>>>doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca (The Doctor) composa la prose suivante:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>In article <97f04e3a-73c3-4f28-9f7f-14f5b43b9c0cn@googlegroups.com>,
> >>>>>>Kyle Laflare <psychedelicsgurus@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>This abusive spamtroll came from
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>This is a forum where all the readers know how to recognize
> >>>>>a spam without the need to specify it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Why do you reply to every spam posted on this group?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Spamtroller , thou art rebuked in the Name of Yahweh the Father,
> >>>>>>Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit for Jesus has all authority here
> >>>>>>and Satan has no authority here!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Do you know you're a troller too if you respond to all spam on
> >>>>>this newsgroup just to say it is spam ?
> >>>>
> >>>>OVH, the largest supplier of spammers and trolls!
> >>>
> >>>Perhaps.
> >>>But, i have no link with ovh, other than buying this "usenet.ovh"
> >>>domain name to set up an nntp server (news.usenet.ovh)
> >>>See www.usenet.ovh for more explanation
> >>>
> >>>So, now, why did you respond to all spam in this group ?
> >>
> >>So you subscribe to a huge spammer network. Your issue.
> >
> >You did not answer the original question.
> >
> >As a reminder:
> > "This is a forum where all the readers know how to recognize
> > spam without the need to specify it.
> > Why do you reply to every spam posted on this group?
> > "
>
> And the charter says?

The charter days that nana.misc is a discussion group.

ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/control/news/news.admin.net-abuse.misc.gz
From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Apr 10 10:37:10 1995
Path: uunet!tale
From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Subject: cmsg newgroup news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Control: newgroup news.admin.net-abuse.misc
Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <797524218.22587@uunet.uu.net>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 1995 14:30:18 GMT
Lines: 27
Xref: uunet control:1880869
news.admin.net-abuse.misc is an unmoderated newsgroup which passed its vote
for creation by 442:91 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 4 Apr 1995.
This group supersedes news.admin.policy, which will be removed on 10 Jul 1995.
For your newsgroups file:
news.admin.net-abuse.misc Network facility abuse, including spamming.
The charter, culled from the call for votes:
news.admin.net-abuse.misc is for the discussion of possible abuses of
netnews and e-mail. It is for the discussion of standards of net abuse,
to suggest appropriate courses of action (if any) to net abuse and to
post reports of alleged occurrences of net abuse. Relevant topics include
events associated with net abuse such as: spamming (posting many
individual copies of any article), excessive crossposting of non-germane
articles, injection of malformed articles into the news system (broken
gateways, for example), or other forms of "roboposting" involving large
numbers of postings to one or more groups, forging identity of postings,
forged approval to moderated groups, forged cancellation of articles
including cancellation of net abuse articles, use of rmgroup/newgroup in
an abusive manner, large-scale mailings to mailing lists or other
mail-bombing, deciding what isn't net abuse, general issues of netiquette,
methods for resolving conflicts, proposed blacklists and boycotts,
"renegade" sites, etc. Postings include news reports, reviews, and
conferences, and net-abuse FAQs. Although commercial posts are not
inherently net-abuse, proper methods of posting commercial material are
within the scope of this group.

So, when might we expect you, Dave, to stop dodging, distracting and
deflecting, and begin entering into a discussion? When might you
actually answer any of the questions being asked of you, regarding
your abhorrent and aberrant mission spamming activities? Is it within
your capacity to engage in discussion?

Why do you, Dave, compulsively followup to spam (or any post you don't
like), with your boiler plate spam. You, yourself, have pointed out
the extent of your spamming activities.

Message-ID: <thkv0n$krr$23@gallifrey.nk.ca>
http://al.howardknight.net/?ID=168081619900
<quote>
Once you log into your google account try
https://groups.google.com/search/conversations?q=Depeer%20Google%20Groups
</quote>

The wasteland of Google's groups.google.com archive indicate that the
query string has appeared in 55200 articles, virtually every one by a
single obsessed author. The phenomenon is widespread and ongoing.

Additionally, exactly what do you think you accomplished, by spamming
the exact same thing tens of thousands of times?

- --
David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com>
nana.misc subscriber since 1995 -- nana.usenet subscriber since 1996
"Ethics is in origin the art of recommending to others the sacrifices
required for cooperation with oneself." - Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)

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