To: DIGITAL MAN
>--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---
>
> Interesting. Where's the short story?

I had it, very briefly, on my website, but the xyl who was one of the
subjects objected, and I don't blame her, so I took it down.

It was funny to me, but I wasn't a main character. It was pretty nasty
to her, and to Mike Donnelly (author of Gilder...)

I've got it someplace. If I find it I'll send you a copy via email.

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To: the doctor
On 3/13/2022 1:56 PM, the doctor wrote:
>> --- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---
>>
>> Interesting. Where's the short story?
>
> I had it, very briefly, on my website, but the xyl who was one of the
> subjects objected, and I don't blame her, so I took it down.
>
> It was funny to me, but I wasn't a main character. It was pretty nasty
> to her, and to Mike Donnelly (author of Gilder...)
>
> I've got it someplace. If I find it I'll send you a copy via email.
>
>
> ---
> "No matter where you go, there you are..."
>
>
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The Doctor,

Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

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To: dragon
> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

Why does it matter?

- Andre

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To: Andre
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to dragon on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:22 pm

>> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

An> Why does it matter?

It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

.... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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To: dragon
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: dragon to the doctor on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:28 pm

> The Doctor,
>
> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

you can make a new thread or send him private mail, ya know.

syncdata isnt meant to be read by humans.
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To: Denn
> It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

I’m not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

- Andre

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To: Denn
On 3/20/2022 1:34 AM, Denn wrote:
> Re: Re: BBSlist
> By: Andre to dragon on Sat Mar 19 2022 08:22 pm
>
> >> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?
>
> An> Why does it matter?
>
> It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.
>
> ... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.
>
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Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

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To: dragon
> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

As you can see, people didn’t read it as a real question… They read it as
passively aggressively saying that you don’t want him to post there so often.

MRO is right. Syncdata is for inter-bbs communication. It’s for tools to
communicate, not really for people.

So the expectation would be to use something like the synclist door and sort by
created or updated. I mean, you can do what you want, but unless it’s
breaking something technically, there’s nothing wrong with posting data to
that sub at a pace that human user wouldn’t like to read.

- Andre

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To: dragon
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm

>
> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.
>
> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

that's kinda stupid when you can just use this
http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst

i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?
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To: MRO
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: MRO to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 05:20 pm

> Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm
>
>
> > Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.
>
> > I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.
>
> that's kinda stupid when you can just use this
> http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst
>
>
> i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?

or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot more detail about each BBS entry)
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To: Andre
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

>> It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

An> I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

I agree. Syncdata is meant for transferring data for Synchronet and related things, and isn't meant for humans to read. Things should be able to post in there as much as needed. I wouldn't normally see it anyway.

Nightfox

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To: Andre
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Andre to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 09:10 am

>> It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

An> I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a day?

Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

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To: dragon
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm

> >>> Is it necessary for you to post to SYNCDATA so often?

> An>> Why does it matter?

>> It dosen't he's just being obnoxious.

>> ... Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.

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dr> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

dr> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of being a bit of
a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

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To: Denn
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm

An>> I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
An>> day?

De> Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.

Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?

Nightfox

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To: Denn
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Denn to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:52 pm

De> Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of being a
De> bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

Scold?

Nightfox

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To: Andre
On 3/20/2022 3:44 PM, Andre wrote:
>> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.
>
> As you can see, people didn't read it as a real question... They read it as
> passively aggressively saying that you don't want him to post there so often.
>
> MRO is right. Syncdata is for inter-bbs communication. It's for tools to
> communicate, not really for people.
>
> So the expectation would be to use something like the synclist door and sort by
> created or updated. I mean, you can do what you want, but unless it's
> breaking something technically, there's nothing wrong with posting data to
> that sub at a pace that human user wouldn't like to read.
>
>
> - Andre
>
> ---
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I just thought it was weird that this BBS posted so often. I retract
the question.

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To: Digital Man
On 3/20/2022 7:04 PM, Digital Man wrote:
> Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> By: MRO to dragon on Sun Mar 20 2022 05:20 pm
>
> > Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> > By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 01:50 pm
> >
> >
> > > Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.
> >
> > > I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.
> >
> > that's kinda stupid when you can just use this
> > http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst
> >
> >
> > i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?
>
> or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot more detail about each BBS entry)

Those are great options, but I find it easier to just scroll through the
messages in SYNCDATA with a newsreader looking for new posts.

I have scripts to automate things, I just enjoy "discovering" new sites
more manually as well.

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To: dragon
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 13:50:48

dr> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.

The wording maybe didn't come off the way you intended. Looked more like a complaint than a simple question.

dr> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.

Explaining this up front might have helped.

Reading SYNCDATA directly with your eyeballs is not recommended, and it's not reasonable to ask anybody to keep human readers in mind when posting there.

If the BBS lister that you're using doesn't have a "new listings since x date" feature, perhaps one could be added. That's much more in line with how the sub and its contents are meant to be used.

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To: Nightfox
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 19:19:03

De>> Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of
De>> being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.

Ni> Scold?

See, this is what I mean when I say you're artistic. Where other people see a scold, you see only passionate creative expression.

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To: Digital Man
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: Digital Man to MRO on Sun Mar 20 2022 04:04 pm

>
> > > I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable
> > > question.
>
> > that's kinda stupid when you can just use this
> > http://synchro.net/Synchronet/syncterm.lst
>
>
> > i'm assuming you are grabbing the entries for your site?
>
> or even better, http://synchro.net/Synchronet/sbbslist.json (contains a lot
> more detail about each BBS entry)

yeah that's nice that the preview is coded in there.
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To: Nightfox
Re: Re: BBSlist
By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 07:18 pm

> Re: Re: BBSlist
> By: Denn to Andre on Sun Mar 20 2022 06:46 pm
>
> An>> I'm not following. Who cares if he posts to syncdata fifty times a
> An>> day?
>
> De> Nightfox is probably the only one that freaks out over this.
>
> Huh? I've never noticed how many times anyone posts in syncdata (and it
> doesn't bother me) I don't look at that sub and I have it disabled in my
> newscan. I'm not sure where you got this idea that I'd be freaked out about
> it..? Unless you've randomly decided to troll me?
>

yeah i have mine turned off for users. it's not meant for human consumption, like i said.
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To: dragon
Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to Digital Man on Sun Mar 20 2022 10:07 pm

> Those are great options, but I find it easier to just scroll through the
> messages in SYNCDATA with a newsreader looking for new posts.
>
> I have scripts to automate things, I just enjoy "discovering" new sites
> more manually as well.

well i dont think you can complain though, because it's a non human area.
that area isnt even listed on vert for humans.

i'd complain if he was adding a lot of FILESIZE to the area. like he was
using it for file sharing and distribution.
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To: echicken
Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: echicken to Nightfox on Mon Mar 21 2022 04:22 am

> Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> By: Nightfox to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 19:19:03
>
> De>> Sorry, I'm not trying to be hostile, Nightfox just has a way of
> De>> being a bit of a scold, reminds me a little of Greta Thunberg.
>
> Ni> Scold?
>
> See, this is what I mean when I say you're artistic. Where other people see
> a scold, you see only passionate creative expression.

i thought i did all the scolding
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To: echicken
On 3/21/2022 5:19 AM, echicken wrote:
> Re: SYNCDATA Posting
> By: dragon to Denn on Sun Mar 20 2022 13:50:48
>
> dr> Wow. A simple question greeted with mild hostility.
>
> The wording maybe didn't come off the way you intended. Looked more like a complaint than a simple question.
>
> dr> I scan SYNCDATA for new boards. I thought it was a reasonable question.
>
> Explaining this up front might have helped.
>
> Reading SYNCDATA directly with your eyeballs is not recommended, and it's not reasonable to ask anybody to keep human readers in mind when posting there.
>
> If the BBS lister that you're using doesn't have a "new listings since x date" feature, perhaps one could be added. That's much more in line with how the sub and its contents are meant to be used.
>
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Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that
doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the
future.

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To: dragon
Re: Re: SYNCDATA Posting
By: dragon to echicken on Mon Mar 21 2022 03:21 pm

dr> Folks sure are reading a lot of stuff in my original message that
dr> doesn't actually appear on the page. I'll try to be more careful in the
dr> future.

You know that old saying, "It's not me with the problem, it's everyone else?"

There's something about the way that you wrote it. Written words have no tone. Just add a smiley to the end of everything and then you're fine.

- Andre

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