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From: sam.alex...@BAUDOT.remove-dyy-this (Sam Alexander)
Subject: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
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 by: Sam Alexander - Sat, 26 Mar 2022 11:36 UTC

So I've racked my brain on this for a few hours now, so until I go further here I am. Trying to relay SMTP through my gmail account. Created an app specific password and here's what I have in sbbs.ini for email specific to smtp:
TLSSubmissionPort = 465
SMTPPort = 25
RelayServer = smtp.gmail.com
RelayPort 587
RelayUsername = ****@gmail.com
RelayPassword = **********
Options = ALLOW_POP3 | USE_SUBMISSION_PORT | TLS_SUBMISSION | TLS_POP3 | RELAY_TX

In the logs it's giving a 530 "5.7.0" error which per Google is "Must issue a STARTTLS command first". I've read that Sync does support STARTTLS, but what am I missing? Thanks --

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From: digital....@vert.synchro.net.remove-fm4-this (Digital Man)
Subject: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
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 by: Digital Man - Sat, 26 Mar 2022 19:16 UTC

To: Sam Alexander
Re: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
By: Sam Alexander to All on Sat Mar 26 2022 05:36 am

> So I've racked my brain on this for a few hours now, so until I go further
> here I am. Trying to relay SMTP through my gmail account. Created an app
> specific password and here's what I have in sbbs.ini for email specific to
> smtp: TLSSubmissionPort = 465
> SMTPPort = 25
> RelayServer = smtp.gmail.com
> RelayPort 587
> RelayUsername = ****@gmail.com
> RelayPassword = **********
> Options = ALLOW_POP3 | USE_SUBMISSION_PORT | TLS_SUBMISSION | TLS_POP3 |
> RELAY_TX
>
> In the logs it's giving a 530 "5.7.0" error which per Google is "Must issue
> a STARTTLS command first". I've read that Sync does support STARTTLS, but
> what am I missing? Thanks --

Yes, Synchronet will issue a STARTTLS command when sending via SMTP.

You do appear to be lacking any of the RELAY_AUTH options, so that your mail won't be authenticating you with the server and that seems like a likely problem.
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From: sam.alex...@BAUDOT.remove-b3c-this (Sam Alexander)
Subject: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
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 by: Sam Alexander - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:50 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
By: Digital Man to Sam Alexander on Sat Mar 26 2022 12:16 pm

> You do appear to be lacking any of the RELAY_AUTH options, so that your mail won't be authenticating you with the server and that seems like a likely problem.

Yeah I was missing that, thanks .. Added and mail is relaying through my Gmail account now, but every message has my GMail as From instead of the BBS EMail Address. I'm not sure if this is on the Sync side or Gmail side, so that's my next thing to figure out... but at least it's going out now.

Thanks.

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Subject: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
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 by: Sam Alexander - Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:55 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?
By: Sam Alexander to Digital Man on Tue Mar 29 2022 05:50 pm

> > You do appear to be lacking any of the RELAY_AUTH options, so that your mail won't be authenticating you with the server and that seems like a likely problem.
>
> Yeah I was missing that, thanks .. Added and mail is relaying through my Gmail account now, but every message has my GMail as From instead of the BBS EMail Address. I'm
> not sure if this is on the Sync side or Gmail side, so that's my next thing to figure out... but at least it's going out now.

I think I found my answer, found an article saying Google uses the main email account unless it's using Google Workspace. I do have a legacy Workspace account which I'm dropping soon since they're dropping the free version in a few months... so guess I'll try the Spectrum SMTP server next.

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Re: Relaying through Gmail -- suggestions?

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 by: Tracker1 - Sat, 2 Apr 2022 05:24 UTC

To: Sam Alexander
On 3/29/22 16:55, Sam Alexander wrote:
>> Yeah I was missing that, thanks .. Added and mail is relaying through
>> my Gmail account now, but every message has my GMail as From instead
>> of the BBS EMail Address. I'm not sure if this is on the Sync side
>> or Gmail side, so that's my next thing to figure out... but at least
>> it's going out now.
>
> I think I found my answer, found an article saying Google uses the
> main email account unless it's using Google Workspace. I do have a
> legacy Workspace account which I'm dropping soon since they're
> dropping the free version in a few months... so guess I'll try the
> Spectrum SMTP server next.

You might also give Sendgrid a try, I've been pretty happy with them,
the free tier is probably good enough for most small BBS use. I'm using
the paid tier though, since I'm also relaying my regular mail server's
outbound mail through them too.
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