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 by: Ant - Mon, 17 Apr 2023 05:17 UTC

J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
> and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
> Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.

> I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac
> showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
> no increase in free space.

> If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
> "Other Users?"

Do you have other macOS accounts in that Mac?
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 by: J Burns - Sun, 16 Apr 2023 16:30 UTC

Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.

I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac
showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
no increase in free space.

If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
"Other Users?"

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 by: J Burns - Mon, 17 Apr 2023 22:09 UTC

On 4/17/23 1:17 AM, Ant wrote:
> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> Today my free space was unusually low. I put 2 gb of files in the trash
>> and emptied it. A Finder window may not show changes immediately, but
>> Storage in About this Mac showed that I'd gained 2 gb.
>
>> I put another gb in the trash and emptied it. This time. About this Mac
>> showed no increase. I put 2 more gb in the trash and emptied it. Still
>> no increase in free space.
>
>> If I click "Manage Storage" the category Other Users has 3 gb. What is
>> "Other Users?"
>
> Do you have other macOS accounts in that Mac?

In System Settings, there's a default "Guest User," but it's switched
off and I haven't used it.

Yesterday, I put another 350mB file in the trash and emptied it, and in
About This Mac, the available space jumped by more than 6 gB. The space
listed in a finder window, and that in Get Info for my disk, remained
the same as before. Later, I saw that they had jumped more than 6 gB, to
be the same as About this Mac showed.

Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

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 by: J Burns - Mon, 17 Apr 2023 22:37 UTC

On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:

>
> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.

I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.

Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Apr 2023 06:43 UTC

J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>
>>
>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>
> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>
> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.

Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
your situation.

<https://eclecticlight.co>

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: J Burns - Tue, 18 Apr 2023 14:35 UTC

On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>>
>> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
>> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>>
>> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.
>
> Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
> your situation.
>
> <https://eclecticlight.co>
>
Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
calculate Photos and System Data.

Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
lower level.

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 by: Alan B - Tue, 18 Apr 2023 15:41 UTC

J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>>>
>>> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
>>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
>>> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>>>
>>> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.
>>
>> Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
>> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
>> your situation.
>>
>> <https://eclecticlight.co>
>>
> Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
> calculate Photos and System Data.
>
> Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
> lower level.

I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to
running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS
will sort this out but it’s worth trying.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: J Burns - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 17:14 UTC

On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
>>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>>>>
>>>> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
>>>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
>>>> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>>>>
>>>> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.
>>>
>>> Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
>>> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
>>> your situation.
>>>
>>> <https://eclecticlight.co>
>>>
>> Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
>> calculate Photos and System Data.
>>
>> Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
>> lower level.
>
> I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to
> running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS
> will sort this out but it’s worth trying.
>
Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.

In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
when they are deleted.

Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.

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From: alanrich...@gmail.com.invalid (Alan B)
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Subject: Re: "other users"
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:56:05 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: Alan B - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 19:56 UTC

J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
>>>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>>>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>>>>>
>>>>> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
>>>>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
>>>>> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.
>>>>
>>>> Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
>>>> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
>>>> your situation.
>>>>
>>>> <https://eclecticlight.co>
>>>>
>>> Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
>>> calculate Photos and System Data.
>>>
>>> Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
>>> lower level.
>>
>> I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to
>> running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS
>> will sort this out but it’s worth trying.
>>
> Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
> seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.
>
> In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
> gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
> when they are deleted.
>
> Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.

Time Machine snapshots get auto deleted over time or if macOS detects the
system is running low on disk space. You can manually delete them too.

--
Cheers, Alan

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 by: Alan - Wed, 19 Apr 2023 20:24 UTC

On 2023-04-19 12:56, Alan B wrote:
> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 4/18/23 11:41 AM, Alan B wrote:
>>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 4/18/23 2:43 AM, Alan B wrote:
>>>>> J Burns <burns@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 4/17/23 6:09 PM, J Burns wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Today, they three are the same, but they've dropped 10 gB overnight, to
>>>>>>> where they were yesterday. I haven't downloaded anything big.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I took a snapshot of the Storage categories. Fifteen minutes later,
>>>>>> available space had dropped another 5 gB! I pulled up Storage
>>>>>> catagories. System Data had jumped 5 gB.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this normal? I haven't seen it before.
>>>>>
>>>>> Howard Oakley has written a series of articles about Finder anomalies
>>>>> recently on his blog site. You may find some of his thoughts relevant to
>>>>> your situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://eclecticlight.co>
>>>>>
>>>> Thanks. Now when I check Storage Settings, it's perpetually trying to
>>>> calculate Photos and System Data.
>>>>
>>>> Would reinstalling the system fix it? I hope the problem isn't at a
>>>> lower level.
>>>
>>> I guess there are several other things to try first from just a restart to
>>> running disk first aid in recovery mode. I’m not sure reinstalling macOS
>>> will sort this out but it’s worth trying.
>>>
>> Suddenly, Finder windows were showing more free space than I've ever
>> seen. It has dropped 20 gB overnight.
>>
>> In "Storage," System Data had dropped to 1 gB. It soon rose. Now it's 13
>> gB. Maybe it means snapshots. I don't know when snapshots are made and
>> when they are deleted.
>>
>> Maybe it's normal functioning with Venture 13.3.
>
> Time Machine snapshots get auto deleted over time or if macOS detects the
> system is running low on disk space. You can manually delete them too.
>

That may be so...

....but I agree that the reporting of storage on macOS at the moment is
totally screwed up.

Finder reports: "Available: 44.79 GB (22.88 GB purgeable)"
About this Mac: "45.34 GB available of 500.07 GB"
Disk Utility...

....well frankly, it's way too hard to parse WHAT it's reporting.

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