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 by: bbspat - Sat, 9 Apr 2022 02:29 UTC

Hi all,

I rebuilt my SBBS recently in a FreeBSD jail from git, and since then, my inbound hubs are able to reach me and crash FidoMail, but SBBS is not dialing out to them at scheduled intervals. I am not seeing any outbound entries in my log. So far I've troubleshooted:

1. DNS - I can ping out to my hubs by hostname
2. Fido Linked Nodes config - Status is Normal, Direct is enabled, BinkP Poll is set to yes
3. Timed Events - DOVEnet dial outs are working, but FTNs are not
4. Forced Timed Event for fidoout - does not seem to work

Curious where to start troubleshooting next. Hopefully I'm missing something easy.

Pat

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 by: Andre - Sat, 9 Apr 2022 12:26 UTC

To: bbspat
Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
By: bbspat to All on Fri Apr 08 2022 07:29 pm

bb> I rebuilt my SBBS recently in a FreeBSD jail from git, and since then, my
bb> inbound hubs are able to reach me and crash FidoMail, but SBBS is not
bb> dialing out to them at scheduled intervals. I am not seeing any outbound
bb> entries in my log. So far I've troubleshooted:

There are so many moving parts to message networking that you're not going to be able to describe your config. You'd have to sanitize a couple config files, at least your sbbs.ini and post it.

But start simpler. What do the logs say? Sounds like your first step needs to be searching the logs for BINKP (which will also hit on BINKPOLL) and see if that produces any leads.

- Andre

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From: digital....@vert.synchro.net.remove-r6a-this (Digital Man)
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 by: Digital Man - Sat, 9 Apr 2022 18:44 UTC

To: bbspat
Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
By: bbspat to All on Fri Apr 08 2022 07:29 pm

> Hi all,
>
> I rebuilt my SBBS recently in a FreeBSD jail from git, and since then, my
> inbound hubs are able to reach me and crash FidoMail, but SBBS is not
> dialing out to them at scheduled intervals. I am not seeing any outbound
> entries in my log. So far I've troubleshooted:
>
> 1. DNS - I can ping out to my hubs by hostname
> 2. Fido Linked Nodes config - Status is Normal, Direct is enabled, BinkP
> Poll is set to yes
> 3. Timed Events - DOVEnet dial outs are working, but FTNs are not
> 4. Forced Timed Event for fidoout - does not seem to work

There are multiple FidoNet-related timed events normally:
FIDOIN
FIDOOUT
BINKOUT
BINKPOLL

Which one of those are you "forcing"?

> Curious where to start troubleshooting next. Hopefully I'm missing something
> easy.

If DNS were the issue, you'd still see a connection attempt logged.

One test would be to just run 'jsexec binkit -p' from a command-line and see what you see. It should try to poll your uplink with that command (same as the BINKPOLL timed event, when it runs).
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 by: bbspat - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 03:17 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
By: Digital Man to bbspat on Sat Apr 09 2022 11:44 am

> One test would be to just run 'jsexec binkit -p' from a command-line and see
> what you see. It should try to poll your uplink with that command (same as
> the BINKPOLL timed event, when it runs).

When running binkit manually, the dial out completes successfully, and I can see it show up in the binkstats.ini log.

I previously also tested using the fidoout semaphore, and the semaphore file is created and removed a few seconds later but binkit is not triggered.

It seems like it is timed event scheduler related. I did notice I had a stray recycle file from two days ago and wondered if that was stopping tasks from being triggered.

The timed event for fidoout is enabled and is set to run 24 hours a day (default settings).

Pat

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To: bbspat
Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
By: bbspat to Digital Man on Sat Apr 09 2022 08:17 pm

> Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
> By: Digital Man to bbspat on Sat Apr 09 2022 11:44 am
>
> > One test would be to just run 'jsexec binkit -p' from a command-line and
> > see what you see. It should try to poll your uplink with that command
> > (same as the BINKPOLL timed event, when it runs).
>
> When running binkit manually, the dial out completes successfully, and I can
> see it show up in the binkstats.ini log.
>
> I previously also tested using the fidoout semaphore, and the semaphore file
> is created and removed a few seconds later but binkit is not triggered.

The FIDOOUT semaphore would just trigger the export (output) of message to FidoNet using SBBSecho. If SBBSecho creates and outgoing packets or bundles, it'll touch its configured semaphore file, e.g. in ctrl/sbbsecho.ini
OutgoingSemaphore=../data/binkout.now
.... which will in turn trigger the BINKOUT timed event that executes the FidoNet mailer (BinkIT, in this case). The BINKOUT has to be configured and *enabled* in SCFG for it run, even if the semaphore file is created/touched succesfully.

> It seems like it is timed event scheduler related. I did notice I had a
> stray recycle file from two days ago and wondered if that was stopping tasks
> from being triggered.

No, not related.

> The timed event for fidoout is enabled and is set to run 24 hours a day
> (default settings).

What about the BINKOUT and BINKPOLL timed events? They're important too (which is why I mentioned them before).
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 by: bbspat - Sun, 10 Apr 2022 14:31 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Outbound FTN dial outs not working
By: Digital Man to bbspat on Sat Apr 09 2022 09:43 pm

> The FIDOOUT semaphore would just trigger the export (output) of message to FidoNet using SBBSecho. If SBBSecho
> creates
> and outgoing packets or bundles, it'll touch its configured semaphore file, e.g. in ctrl/sbbsecho.ini
> OutgoingSemaphore=../data/binkout.now
> ... which will in turn trigger the BINKOUT timed event that executes the FidoNet mailer (BinkIT, in this case). The
> BINKOUT has to be configured and *enabled* in SCFG for it run, even if the semaphore file is created/touched
> succesfully.

Got it working, root cause was: I was missing the Binkout and Binkpoll timed events, and the semaphore file was not configured.

I followed the instructions here, and once I restarted sbbs it immediately dialed out.

http://wiki.synchro.net/module:binkit

Thank you Rob.

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