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* Speak and PiesTim Hill
+* Re: Speak and PiesStuart
|+* Re: Speak and PiesTheo
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|`- Re: Speak and PiesTim Hill
+* Re: Speak and PiesChris Newman
|`* Re: Speak and PiesTim Hill
| `* Re: Speak and PiesChris Newman
|  `- Re: Speak and PiesDave
`- Re: Speak and PiesPaul Stewart

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 by: Tim Hill - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 11:19 UTC

When I was installing the latest Raspian on a Pi the other day it told me
(literally, it spoke) how to activate the screen reader.

Imagine my shock that it sounded exactly the same as Speak on RISC OS and
I was confused at first as I thought Pluto had a new feature. Perhaps
this illustrates the danger of routing six devices though a mixer to one
amplifier!

Now, I realise that the phonemes used to construct words may be common
across both platforms, so they may be bound to sound the same, but of
course I wondered if there was some other link?

The 'chipmunk' thread elsewhere in this parish made me realise that,
equipped with both OSes, it may be a good idea not to use the standard
voice on RISC OS to avoid any confusion or, like Daleks, perhaps our
devices should flash a couple of LEDs when they speak so we know which of
them is speaking.

--

Tim Hill
Webmaster, https://timil.com

websites : php : RISC OS

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 by: Stuart - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:10 UTC

In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> Imagine my shock that it sounded exactly the same as Speak on RISC OS and
> I was confused at first as I thought Pluto had a new feature. Perhaps
> this illustrates the danger of routing six devices though a mixer to one
> amplifier!

> Now, I realise that the phonemes used to construct words may be common
> across both platforms, so they may be bound to sound the same, but of
> course I wondered if there was some other link?

Same author

http://espeak.sourceforge.net/

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
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http://www.twam.co.uk/

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From: cvj...@waitrose.com (Chris Newman)
Subject: Re: Speak and Pies
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 by: Chris Newman - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:45 UTC

In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
wrote:

> it may be a good idea not to use the standard voice on RISC OS to avoid > any confusion

What is the Standard RISC OS Voice. AccessingeSpeakfrom Pluto gives me a
list of 13 voices.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Theo - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 16:13 UTC

Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>,
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > Now, I realise that the phonemes used to construct words may be common
> > across both platforms, so they may be bound to sound the same, but of
> > course I wondered if there was some other link?
>
> Same author
>
> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/

Who also wrote Pluto.

Theo

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Subject: Re: Speak and Pies
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2022 17:08:22 +0000 (GMT)
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 by: Tim Hill - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:08 UTC

In article <59b58731bdSpambin@argonet.co.uk>, Stuart
<Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> > Imagine my shock that it sounded exactly the same as Speak on RISC OS
> > and I was confused at first as I thought Pluto had a new feature.
> > Perhaps this illustrates the danger of routing six devices though a
> > mixer to one amplifier!

> > Now, I realise that the phonemes used to construct words may be
> > common across both platforms, so they may be bound to sound the same,
> > but of course I wondered if there was some other link?

> Same author

> http://espeak.sourceforge.net/

That explains a lot!!

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 by: Tim Hill - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:11 UTC

In article <59b58a5a4ccvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
<cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> > it may be a good idea not to use the standard voice on RISC OS to
> > avoid > any confusion

> What is the Standard RISC OS Voice. AccessingeSpeakfrom Pluto gives me
> a list of 13 voices.

The default one. Zero.

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 by: Stuart - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 20:47 UTC

In article <I7i*Wq1Fy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Stuart <Spambin@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>,
> > Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Now, I realise that the phonemes used to construct words may be common
> > > across both platforms, so they may be bound to sound the same, but of
> > > course I wondered if there was some other link?
> >
> > Same author
> >
> > http://espeak.sourceforge.net/

> Who also wrote Pluto.

Indeed he did, which is why it is (or cetainly was) supplied with !Pluto

--
Stuart Winsor

Tools With A Mission
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 by: Paul Stewart - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 21:26 UTC

When I noticed this subject, for some reason I though of bubble and squeak
pies as in the the kind baked in an oven lol

--
Paul Stewart
Sent from A9home running RISC OS 4.42

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 by: Chris Newman - Fri, 4 Feb 2022 22:31 UTC

In article <59b59244c7tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
wrote:
> In article <59b58a5a4ccvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> > > it may be a good idea not to use the standard voice on RISC OS to
> > > avoid > any confusion

> > What is the Standard RISC OS Voice. AccessingeSpeakfrom Pluto gives me
> > a list of 13 voices.

> The default one. Zero.

My zero says (None). Duh! Seems silly.

--
Chris Newman

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 by: Dave - Sat, 5 Feb 2022 08:40 UTC

In article <59b5af837fcvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> In article <59b59244c7tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk>
> wrote:
> > In article <59b58a5a4ccvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
> > <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:
> > > In article <59b571f84btim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:

> > > > it may be a good idea not to use the standard voice on RISC OS to
> > > > avoid > any confusion

> > > What is the Standard RISC OS Voice. AccessingeSpeakfrom Pluto gives
> > > me a list of 13 voices.

> > The default one. Zero.

> My zero says (None). Duh! Seems silly.

But it does speak...

My question is... Why would you want a silly Croak voice in the list?

Now that is silly! :-(

Dave

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