Hi,

Has anyone had experience of this behaviour?

I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen every
time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has induced
this behaviour

On occasions, while it's on the iconbar and I'm doing something I get an
endless hour glass. Alt/Break gives me a message about closing WebKit
Network process. If I OK that, the machine stiffs so maybe it's that part
of the gubbins which is problematical.

Reporter gives lots of messages re WebKit.

~Reps.ReportSave44 :
22:05:41.06 Set WebKit$Dir <Obey$Dir>
22:05:41.06 Set Iris$Dir <WebKit$Dir>
22:05:41.18 X Remove Iris:WebKitNetworkProcess2-debug
22:05:41.18 Remove Iris:WebKitNetworkProcess2-debug
22:05:41.18 X Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess1-debug
22:05:41.18 Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess1-debug
22:05:41.18 X Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess3-debug
22:05:41.18 Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess3-debug
22:05:45.84 <WebKit$Dir>.bin.WebKitNetworkProcess 4 590 1>null: 2>&1
22:05:45.84 @RunType_E1F
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitNetworkProcess 4 590 1>null:
2>&1
22:05:45.84 SOMRun
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitNetworkProcess 4 590 1>null:
2>&1
22:05:46.70 <WebKit$Dir>.bin.WebKitWebProcess 9 594 1>null: 2>&1
22:05:46.70 @RunType_E1F
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitWebProcess 9 594 1>null: 2>&1
22:05:46.70 SOMRun
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitWebProcess 9 594 1>null: 2>&1
22:06:03.47 <WebKit$Dir>.bin.WebKitWebProcess 17 598 1>null: 2>&1
22:06:03.47 @RunType_E1F
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitWebProcess 17 598 1>null: 2>&1
22:06:03.47 SOMRun
ADFS::FAST.$.a-Browse.Iris.!Iris.bin.WebKitWebProcess 17 598 1>null: 2>&1
22:36:17.11 Set WebKit$Dir <Obey$Dir>
22:36:17.11 Set Iris$Dir <WebKit$Dir>
22:36:17.22 X Remove Iris:WebKitNetworkProcess2-debug
22:36:17.22 Remove Iris:WebKitNetworkProcess2-debug
22:36:17.22 X Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess1-debug
22:36:17.22 Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess1-debug
22:36:17.22 X Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess3-debug
22:36:17.22 Remove Iris:WebKitWebProcess3-debug

--
Chris Newman

In article <5aaacd4156cvjazz@waitrose.com>,
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

Thank you for pointing at a new version!

> Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen every
> time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has induced
> this behaviour

Until now I used Iris 1.025 (and previous versions), but I don't recall any
machine stiffing when quitting Iris. I'll let you know if 1.027 appears to
have changed something in this respect.

I did notice however a lot of reports when I had !Report running
coincidently. Perhaps not the same reports, but it certainly isn't
something that is exclusive for the latest version.

Not much of a help, sorry.
Paul

--
https://riscos.sprie.nl

In message <5aaacd4156cvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> Hi,

> Has anyone had experience of this behaviour?

> I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

> FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

> Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen every
> time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has induced
> this behaviour

> On occasions, while it's on the iconbar and I'm doing something I get an
> endless hour glass. Alt/Break gives me a message about closing WebKit
> Network process. If I OK that, the machine stiffs so maybe it's that part
> of the gubbins which is problematical.

Very, very rare now I have any lockups 1.027 is the most stable version I
have used.

First question: Do you have Alignment Exceptions On or Off. Iris works
best with them off. If 'on' some odd things can happen and they do warn of
this in the text files with Iris.

This could also be an interaction with the Compute Module 4, I doubt Iris
has been tested with that in the hardware mix.

Have you tried a fresh install of Iris?

If you can list a repeatable instance of the issue, i.e what other
software was running, website visited where you had the issue, etc..

Then best to report it to RISCOSBits in case its the Compute Module cauing
the issue and then maybe to RISCOS Developments.

[snip]

--
Chris Hughes

In article <5aab0fc462Paul@sprie.nl>, Paul Sprangers <Paul@sprie.nl>
wrote:
> In article <5aaacd4156cvjazz@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

> Thank you for pointing at a new version!

I only discovered it by accident. Wondering whether the problem was a
corrupted Iris, I went to fetch a clean copy and found the update. I
don't remember it being advertised anywhere.

I'd been using IrisRAM and wondered if that was the problem but I've
stopped using that and the glitch persists. This FAST is so swift I don't
really need the RAM disc now.

> > Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen
> > every time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has
> > induced this behaviour

> Until now I used Iris 1.025 (and previous versions), but I don't recall
> any machine stiffing when quitting Iris. I'll let you know if 1.027
> appears to have changed something in this respect.

> I did notice however a lot of reports when I had !Report running
> coincidently. Perhaps not the same reports, but it certainly isn't
> something that is exclusive for the latest version.

When I shut down, I'm trialing one by one closing things on the iconbar
before shutting Iris to see if anything is conflicting. Bit of a long
job. I recently set !Transient to trap all deletes so that is my next
suspect to eliminate.

--
Chris Newman

In article <2a1e08ab5a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
<news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <5aaacd4156cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> > Hi,

> > Has anyone had experience of this behaviour?

> > I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

> > FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

> > Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen
> > every time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has
> > induced this behaviour

> > On occasions, while it's on the iconbar and I'm doing something I get
> > an endless hour glass. Alt/Break gives me a message about closing
> > WebKit Network process. If I OK that, the machine stiffs so maybe
> > it's that part of the gubbins which is problematical.

> Very, very rare now I have any lockups 1.027 is the most stable version
> I have used.

That's nice to know.

> First question: Do you have Alignment Exceptions On or Off. Iris works
> best with them off. If 'on' some odd things can happen and they do warn
> of this in the text files with Iris.

Off.

> This could also be an interaction with the Compute Module 4, I doubt
> Iris has been tested with that in the hardware mix.

It was OK for a while with this new computer, then it went pear shaped.

> Have you tried a fresh install of Iris?

Yes. See my post replying to Paul.

> If you can list a repeatable instance of the issue, i.e what other
> software was running, website visited where you had the issue, etc..

See same post.

> Then best to report it to RISCOSBits in case its the Compute Module
> cauing the issue and then maybe to RISCOS Developments.

I'll do that when I've eliminated as far as possible anything I might be
doing wrong.

It's a bit hard to get messags to the Iris developers it seems.

--
Chris Newman

In message <5aab11f00bcvjazz@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

> In article <2a1e08ab5a.chris@mytardis>, Chris Hughes
> <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <5aaacd4156cvjazz@waitrose.com> Chris Newman
>> <cvjazz@waitrose.com> wrote:

>>> Hi,

>>> Has anyone had experience of this behaviour?

>>> I have Iris 1.027 (02-Apr-2023).

>>> FAST Pi Compute Module 4 RISC OS 5.29

>>> Quite often, if I quit Iris it stiff the machine. Doesn't happen
>>> every time. This has started fairly recently but I can't see what has
>>> induced this behaviour

>>> On occasions, while it's on the iconbar and I'm doing something I get
>>> an endless hour glass. Alt/Break gives me a message about closing
>>> WebKit Network process. If I OK that, the machine stiffs so maybe
>>> it's that part of the gubbins which is problematical.

>> Very, very rare now I have any lockups 1.027 is the most stable version
>> I have used.

> That's nice to know.

>> First question: Do you have Alignment Exceptions On or Off. Iris works
>> best with them off. If 'on' some odd things can happen and they do warn
>> of this in the text files with Iris.

> Off.

>> This could also be an interaction with the Compute Module 4, I doubt
>> Iris has been tested with that in the hardware mix.

> It was OK for a while with this new computer, then it went pear shaped.

>> Have you tried a fresh install of Iris?

> Yes. See my post replying to Paul.

>> If you can list a repeatable instance of the issue, i.e what other
>> software was running, website visited where you had the issue, etc..

> See same post.

>> Then best to report it to RISCOSBits in case its the Compute Module
>> cauing the issue and then maybe to RISCOS Developments.

> I'll do that when I've eliminated as far as possible anything I might be
> doing wrong.

> It's a bit hard to get messags to the Iris developers it seems.

If repeatable send your report to info@risosdev.com

--
Chris Hughes

In article <a81e15ab5a.chris@mytardis>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

<Huge snip>

> If repeatable send your report to info@risosdev.com

Ta.

--
Chris Newman