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Subject: Re: Are you able to install Eudora on Win 10?
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 by: DaveH2 - Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:49 UTC

On Sunday, 18 April 2021 at 14:31:38 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> >Have you tried right clicking on the installation file and selecting "run as administrator"?
> Yes, I tried it but it didn't work.
> I solved that problem installng Eudora with Revo Unistaller.
Well I'm glad you fixed it, but it's still strange that it wouldn't install for you normally.
There's no fundamental problem installing and using Eudora on Windows 10, I am and I know many others are too.
Are you logged on to Windows 10 as an administrator?
That's the only other thing I can think of which might have caused the error message you were getting, your user account didn't have the necessary rights.

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 by: ijo...@jejejeje.it - Sun, 18 Apr 2021 22:02 UTC

>Are you logged on to Windows 10 as an administrator?
>That's the only other thing I can think of which might have caused the error message you were getting, your user account didn't have the necessary rights.

Yes of course, I tried as Administrator, both by creating a new
administrator account and by trying to install it with the right mouse
button on the file as administrator. But both options are unmanaged.
Eudora is strange.
Another thing I can't solve is that on the second computer Eudora
doesn't download emails with yahoo.com account.
On the first computer it downloads them fine but on the second
computer it has problems with the server: SERVER ERROR ..
YET I have copied all Eudora folders and respective files from the
first computer to the second computer. But I get this problem.

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 by: DaveH2 - Sun, 18 Apr 2021 22:22 UTC

On Sunday, 18 April 2021 at 23:02:26 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> >Are you logged on to Windows 10 as an administrator?
> >That's the only other thing I can think of which might have caused the error message you were getting, your user account didn't have the necessary rights.
> Yes of course, I tried as Administrator, both by creating a new
> administrator account and by trying to install it with the right mouse
> button on the file as administrator. But both options are unmanaged.
> Eudora is strange.
> Another thing I can't solve is that on the second computer Eudora
> doesn't download emails with yahoo.com account.
> On the first computer it downloads them fine but on the second
> computer it has problems with the server: SERVER ERROR ..
> YET I have copied all Eudora folders and respective files from the
> first computer to the second computer. But I get this problem.
Have both installations of Eudora got the Hermes update applied?
In my experience, Yahoo servers will no longer connect with Eudora without it.

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>Have both installations of Eudora got the Hermes update applied?
>In my experience, Yahoo servers will no longer connect with Eudora without it.

Maybe yes, but I dont remmeber well if I installed the latest Hermes
version.
Could you confirm if I have to download from it please?
https://sourceforge.net/projects/hermesmail/files/
Thank you.

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EDIT:
now I have just copied the 3 .dll files in Eudora folder from
HermSSL folder.
Then I installed vcredist.exe.
But I get the same problem.
Maybe had I to unnistall first the old HermSSL?

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On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 11:43:12 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> EDIT:
> now I have just copied the 3 .dll files in Eudora folder from
> HermSSL folder.
> Then I installed vcredist.exe.
> But I get the same problem.
> Maybe had I to unnistall first the old HermSSL?
Did you also copy the usercerts.p7b file across?
It won't work without that.

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 by: ijo...@jejejeje.it - Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:06 UTC

>Did you also copy the usercerts.p7b file across?
>It won't work without that.

No, I don't see any usercerts.p7b in the HermSSL folder.
Where can I find it please?
Thank you

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On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 14:06:14 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> >Did you also copy the usercerts.p7b file across?
> >It won't work without that.
> No, I don't see any usercerts.p7b in the HermSSL folder.
> Where can I find it please?
> Thank you
Sorry, my mistake, I meant "rootcerts.p7b"!
Did you copy that across?

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>Sorry, my mistake, I meant "rootcerts.p7b"!
>Did you copy that across?

Since you told me this, I made 2 tests:
1 ° I coped rootcerts inside Eudora foder, then I opened Eudora but I
get the same problem.
2nd I coped the 4 files: 3 dll files again and rootcerts file inside
Eudora foder. Then I installed vcredist.exe again but I got the same
problem.
Eudora doesn't download emal from yahoo account.

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 by: DaveH2 - Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:09 UTC

On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 15:45:40 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> >Sorry, my mistake, I meant "rootcerts.p7b"!
> >Did you copy that across?
> Since you told me this, I made 2 tests:
> 1 ° I coped rootcerts inside Eudora foder, then I opened Eudora but I
> get the same problem.
> 2nd I coped the 4 files: 3 dll files again and rootcerts file inside
> Eudora foder. Then I installed vcredist.exe again but I got the same
> problem.
> Eudora doesn't download emal from yahoo account.
OK, you can check that the Hermes patch is working by doing a mail check and then looking in the properties for your Eudora personality.
If you click on "last SSL info" it should show that it attempted a connection using TLSv1.2.
If it still says TLSv1 the Hermes patch isn't doing its job.
The only thing left is that you may well need to generate an "application specific password" for that installation.
Did you do that for the other computer that's working?
You need to go to the Yahoo webmail page with your browser, log in and look at your settings, and look in the security section.
In there, there should be an option to generate a password for what they consider now to be an insecure client.
When you've got the password (it will be four blocks of four numbers) you will need to use it in Eudora instead of your normal password.

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 by: ijo...@jejejeje.it - Mon, 19 Apr 2021 15:58 UTC

>OK, you can check that the Hermes patch is working by doing a mail check and then looking in the properties for your Eudora personality.
>If you click on "last SSL info" it should show that it attempted a connection using TLSv1.2.
Yes, I see TLSv1.2.

>You need to go to the Yahoo webmail page with your browser, log in and look at your settings, and look in the security section.
>In there, there should be an option to generate a password for what they consider now to be an insecure client.
>When you've got the password (it will be four blocks of four numbers) you will need to use it in Eudora instead of your normal password.

Later I will change the password as you suggested. But I will change
the password even on the other main computer where yahoo works fine.
I hope I will not ruini something on Eudora running well.
Anyway I thank you!
Later I will send the fedback

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PERFECT: you are right.
I don't know how to thank you.

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On Monday, 19 April 2021 at 18:25:04 UTC+1, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> PERFECT: you are right.
> I don't know how to thank you.
Great to hear!
I hope your other installation is still working OK, if not you will probably have to do the same thing there.

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 by: Dennis Lee Bieber - Wed, 21 Apr 2021 03:42 UTC

On Mon, 19 Apr 2021 16:45:38 +0200, ijones@jejejeje.it declaimed the
following:

>Since you told me this, I made 2 tests:
>1 ° I coped rootcerts inside Eudora foder, then I opened Eudora but I
>get the same problem.
>2nd I coped the 4 files: 3 dll files again and rootcerts file inside
>Eudora foder. Then I installed vcredist.exe again but I got the same
>problem.

When you say "Eudora foder" (folder), WHICH directory are you referring
to?

C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora
... which is also where the vcredist.exe is located in my version as a
safety. Did you read the README.TXT file that comes with that ZIP file for
the instructions?

and NOT

C:\Users\Wulfraed\AppData\Roaming\Qualcomm
... though based upon dates, the usercerts.p7b file was updated at the
same time as the files in the previous location.

>Eudora doesn't download emal from yahoo account.

So did you follow the instructions to IMMEDIATELY check what the
"LastSSL" information has for that download attempt?

--
Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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 by: ijo...@jejejeje.it - Wed, 21 Apr 2021 05:52 UTC

> When you say "Eudora foder" (folder), WHICH directory are you referring
>to?
>
>C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora
> ... which is also where the vcredist.exe is located in my version as a
>safety. Did you read the README.TXT file that comes with that ZIP file for
>the instructions?

Hey friend, thanis so much for your help, but I have to tell you I
have solved my problem.
My problem was wit yahoo passwords. I went into yahoo web site and I
changed the passwords and not eerything works fine.
Have a good day.

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The trick to installing Eudora on Win10 is, to put it into its own folder in the root directory instead of program files. C:\\Eudora
Run setup as administrator.
Win10 will want to put email files and attachments in its user directories, so you have to find them and move them to the C:\\Eudora folder, and I think you need to edit the eudora.ini file to point to the moved directories.

I do not recall all the details, I found the instructions online but it was a year or two ago.

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 by: Dennis Lee Bieber - Sat, 11 Sep 2021 19:45 UTC

On Sat, 11 Sep 2021 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT), Angelique Serpent
<training@kundalini-teacher.com> declaimed the following:

>The trick to installing Eudora on Win10 is, to put it into its own folder in the root directory instead of program files. C:\\Eudora
>Run setup as administrator.
>Win10 will want to put email files and attachments in its user directories, so you have to find them and move them to the C:\\Eudora folder, and I think you need to edit the eudora.ini file to point to the moved directories.
>
>I do not recall all the details, I found the instructions online but it was a year or two ago.

And none of that is needed... I've run Eudora on Win10 since my Win7
drive failed and I had to buy Win10 and a new drive to recover.

The ONLY trick is that you have to use Windows "default programs" to
set Eudora as the email client, AND you have to turn off any option inside
of Eudora that attempts to check and set itself as default. Reason: Win10
(and likely Win7) moved the registry entry that defines default programs --
Eudora is still trying to write to the old location, which is not used by
the OS..

From my shortcut properties:
TARGET: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Qualcomm\Eudora\Eudora.exe"
START IN: <blanked out, no content>

The shortcut was created in December 2016 (just shy of five years ago),
and modified July 2017 (probably to blank out START IN).

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Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber AF6VN
wlfraed@ix.netcom.com http://wlfraed.microdiversity.freeddns.org/

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On Sunday, April 18, 2021 at 9:31:38 PM UTC+8, ijo...@jejejeje.it wrote:
> >Have you tried right clicking on the installation file and selecting "run as administrator"?
> Yes, I tried it but it didn't work.
> I solved that problem installng Eudora with Revo Unistaller.

Hello Ijones, could you describe how you used Revo to install Eudora? I too am stuck installing, being blocked by Windows 10.

Thanks, Alwyn

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