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* Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3Wally J
`* Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3Alan
 `* Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3Jolly Roger
  `* Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3Wally J
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Subject: Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3
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 by: Wally J - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 17:11 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> <https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/3333708>
> <https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/what-to-do-if-your-galaxy-s23-device-is-overheating/>
> <https://bgr.com/tech/galaxy-s22-overheating-might-not-just-be-samsungs-fault/>
> <https://phoneswiz.com/fix-oneplus-11-overheating-issue/>
> <https://www.techradar.com/news/pixel-7-and-6-units-have-been-overheating-but-google-has-a-fix-for-that>
> ...the list goes on...
>
> But we're all supposed to ignore these. They are all different. And so
> is the iPhone.

Do you know why *iKooks always blame someone else* for Apple's own flaws?

I do.

HINT: Nobody on the _adult_ OS newsgroups uses Apple as an excuse for why
their product has whatever flaws it has - it's something only iKooks do.

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From: nuh...@nope.com (Alan)
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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 18:22 UTC

On 2023-10-15 10:11, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> <https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/3333708>
>> <https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/what-to-do-if-your-galaxy-s23-device-is-overheating/>
>> <https://bgr.com/tech/galaxy-s22-overheating-might-not-just-be-samsungs-fault/>
>> <https://phoneswiz.com/fix-oneplus-11-overheating-issue/>
>> <https://www.techradar.com/news/pixel-7-and-6-units-have-been-overheating-but-google-has-a-fix-for-that>
>> ...the list goes on...
>>
>> But we're all supposed to ignore these. They are all different. And so
>> is the iPhone.
>
> Do you know why *iKooks always blame someone else* for Apple's own flaws?
>
> I do.

Assumes as fact something you have never supported...

....let alone proven.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 21:09 UTC

On 2023-10-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-15 10:11, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> <https://support.google.com/pixelphone/answer/3333708>
>>> <https://www.samsung.com/sg/support/mobile-devices/what-to-do-if-your-galaxy-s23-device-is-overheating/>
>>> <https://bgr.com/tech/galaxy-s22-overheating-might-not-just-be-samsungs-fault/>
>>> <https://phoneswiz.com/fix-oneplus-11-overheating-issue/>
>>> <https://www.techradar.com/news/pixel-7-and-6-units-have-been-overheating-but-google-has-a-fix-for-that>
>>> ...the list goes on...
>>>
>>> But we're all supposed to ignore these. They are all different. And
>>> so is the iPhone.
>>
>> Do you know why *iKooks always blame someone else* for Apple's own
>> flaws?
>>
>> I do.
>
> Assumes as fact something you have never supported...
>
> ...let alone proven.

Note also that I didn't blame anyone at all. What I did do was point out
some very real examples of numerous Android phones overheating in
response to some idiot's asinine claim that any overheating at all means
a very specific bug supposedly hasn't been fixed - in the context of the
larger ongoing thread where resident trolls have falsely claimed the
iPhone 15 is supposedly "defective", even after Apple, Instagram, and
others have released *software* fixes to resolve overheating issues.

Wally (Arlen) desperately wants to change the subject and sling insults
as a deflection. Trolls gonna troll. 😉

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Wally J - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 21:52 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

> Note also that I didn't blame anyone at all.

Ah, but you did.

I've studied you strange iKooks, Jolly Roger - so I know you rather well.

You child-like iKooks have only seven excuses for the truth about Apple.
One of those seven excuses for Apple's flaws is to blame someone else!

You _hate_ that the iPhone 15 flaws remain even after Apple's "fix", JR.

What you clearly did is called "whataboutism" and it's a common tactic, JR.
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism>

What you're _desperate_ to do is _deflect_ criticism away from Apple.

> What I did do was point out
> some very real examples of numerous Android phones overheating in
> response to some idiot's asinine claim that any overheating at all means
> a very specific bug supposedly hasn't been fixed - in the context of the
> larger ongoing thread where resident trolls have falsely claimed the
> iPhone 15 is supposedly "defective", even after Apple, Instagram, and
> others have released *software* fixes to resolve overheating issues.

Why is it that _only_ the child-like Apple newsgroups do what you do?

Nobody on the adult Android ng says "Bbbbbuuuuttttt *Apple did it too*".
Nobody on the adult Windows ng says "Bbbbbuuuuttttt *Apple did it too*".
Nobody on the adult Linux ng says "Bbbbbuuuuttttt *Apple did it too*".

Why is it _only_ the Apple newsgroup is desperate to deflect blame away
from Apple by using the obvious tactic of WhatAboutism to derail blame?
--
The child-like iKooks have only seven excuses for the truth about Apple.
One of those seven excuses for Apple's flaws is to blame someone else!

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 by: Alan - Sun, 15 Oct 2023 22:06 UTC

On 2023-10-15 14:52, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>
>> Note also that I didn't blame anyone at all.
>
> Ah, but you did.

The quote was supposed to come next.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:05 UTC

On 2023-10-15, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-10-15 14:52, Wally J wrote:
>> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
>>
>>> Note also that I didn't blame anyone at all.
>>
>> Ah, but you did.
>
> The quote was supposed to come next.

The non-existent quote he's dreaming up in his hate-addled mind.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Wally J - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 00:56 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

>> The quote was supposed to come next.
>
> The non-existent quote he's dreaming up in his hate-addled mind.

Whenever Apple's flaws are discussed you iKooks are _desperate_ to
deflect the blame to Google or Samsung - instead of addressing the issues.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/wordplay/whataboutism-origin-meaning

Whataboutism gives a clue to its meaning in its name. It is not merely the
changing of a subject ("What about the economy?") to deflect away from an
earlier subject as a political strategy; it's essentially a reversal of
accusation, arguing that an opponent is guilty of an offense just as
egregious or worse than what the original party was accused of doing,
however unconnected the offenses may be.

The tactic behind whataboutism has been around for a long time.
Rhetoricians generally consider it to be a form of tu quoque, which means
"you too" in Latin and involves charging your accuser with whatever it is
you've just been accused of rather than refuting the truth of the
accusation made against you. Tu quoque is considered to be a logical
fallacy, because whether or not the original accuser is likewise guilty of
an offense has no bearing on the truth value of the original accusation.

Whataboutism adds a twist to tu quoque by directing its energies into
establishing an equivalence between two or more disparate actions, thereby
defaming the accuser with the insinuation that their priorities are
backwards.

Re: Still too hot after iOS 17.0.3

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From: jollyro...@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 01:14 UTC

On 2023-10-16, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
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>>> The quote was supposed to come next.
>>
>> The non-existent quote he's dreaming up in his hate-addled mind.
>
> Blah blah blah blah

Still no quote f me supposedly "blaming" someone.

So much losing.

--
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Alan - Mon, 16 Oct 2023 02:47 UTC

On 2023-10-15 17:56, Wally J wrote:
> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote
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>> The non-existent quote he's dreaming up in his hate-addled mind.
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> Whenever Apple's flaws are discussed you iKooks are _desperate_ to
> deflect the blame to Google or Samsung - instead of addressing the issues.

That has literally never once happened.

You're a liar, and not even a very good one.

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 by: Wally J - Fri, 20 Oct 2023 02:14 UTC

super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote
> Nobody on the adult Linux ng says "Bbbbbuuuuttttt *Apple did it too*"
> I would guess because they have a life, unlike you hanging around in here.

It's important to understand the mentality of the typical Apple owner.

Apple owners don't think before they purchase the product.
They're actually completely ignorant of the product.

What they do is follow the herd.
Apple owners, en masse, are herd animals.

Now what's the biggest danger to the herd?
Think about that.

Once you understand Apple owners, you instantly realize why only they
attack every truth about their operating system by blaming someone else.

This "Whataboutism" never happens on the adult operating system newsgroups.
Only on Apple newsgroups.

Think about why.
--
HINT: It's the same reason only Apple newsgroup posters gloat about profits
when the fact is it's impossible to make those profits off intelligent
consumers.

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