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* Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?SugarBug
+- Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?Ivo Gandolfo
+* Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?Grant Taylor
|`- Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?John Levine
`* Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?Kyonshi
 `- Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?candycanearter07

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Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text feeds?

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From: 388...@sugar.bug (SugarBug)
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Subject: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full text
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Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:11:43 -0500
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 by: SugarBug - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 19:11 UTC

I wonder how many peers are carrying and preserving fulltext historical and curent Usenet feeds.

Will anyone give a ballpark number?

Which peers have articles remotest in antiquity?

Even guesstimates might be useful.

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From: use...@bofh.team (Ivo Gandolfo)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full
text feeds?
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 by: Ivo Gandolfo - Thu, 28 Mar 2024 20:52 UTC

On 28/03/2024 20:11, SugarBug wrote:
> I wonder how many peers are carrying and preserving fulltext historical and curent Usenet feeds.
>
> Will anyone give a ballpark number?
>
> Which peers have articles remotest in antiquity?
>
> Even guesstimates might be useful.
>

Actually I have my full server back to 2000. Actually i'm working to add
other back from archive.org.

Sincerely

--
Ivo Gandolfo

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From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full
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 by: Grant Taylor - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:00 UTC

On 3/28/24 14:11, SugarBug wrote:
> I wonder how many peers are carrying and preserving fulltext historical
> and curent Usenet feeds.

Considering that all of the news servers that I've looked at have a
/default/ configuration to expire articles, you're actually asking for a
special configuration.

After Google killed Dejanews, (years ago) I would wonder if some of the
big binary friendly news service providers might happen to have a VERY
long text newsgroup archive simply based on size compared to binaries.

Beyond that, I'd start inquiring if anyone like the Library of Congress
has an archive. But I'd be somewhat surprised if they did. Or if they
did, I suspect that getting access to it in any capacity would be onerous.

--
Grant. . . .

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From: joh...@taugh.com (John Levine)
Newsgroups: news.admin.peering
Subject: Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full
text feeds?
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 by: John Levine - Fri, 29 Mar 2024 02:15 UTC

According to Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net>:
>After Google killed Dejanews, (years ago) I would wonder if some of the
>big binary friendly news service providers might happen to have a VERY
>long text newsgroup archive simply based on size compared to binaries.

My impression is that the commercial providers like Giganews stopped
expiring stuff a long time ago so their archives go way back.

--
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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From: gmke...@gmail.com (Kyonshi)
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Subject: Re: Quantity and addresses of antique Usenet peers that carry full
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 by: Kyonshi - Sun, 31 Mar 2024 23:03 UTC

On 3/28/2024 8:11 PM, SugarBug wrote:
> I wonder how many peers are carrying and preserving fulltext historical and curent Usenet feeds.
>
> Will anyone give a ballpark number?
>
> Which peers have articles remotest in antiquity?
>
> Even guesstimates might be useful.
>

The question is how much of that really is useful, considering the flood
of spam the last few decades.

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 by: candycanearter07 - Mon, 1 Apr 2024 15:16 UTC

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 23:03 this Sunday (GMT):
> On 3/28/2024 8:11 PM, SugarBug wrote:
>> I wonder how many peers are carrying and preserving fulltext historical and curent Usenet feeds.
>>
>> Will anyone give a ballpark number?
>>
>> Which peers have articles remotest in antiquity?
>>
>> Even guesstimates might be useful.
>>
>
> The question is how much of that really is useful, considering the flood
> of spam the last few decades.

There was still plenty of legitimate conversation, and
filtering/skipping the spam should be easier in retrospect. You could
also apply the existing spam reports for a portion of it.
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