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by: Quincy the fifth - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 01:22 UTC

Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU

Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union

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by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 01:36 UTC

Quincy the fifth wrote:
> Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU
>
> Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
> Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union
>

That's a damn shame.

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by: Your Name - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 02:31 UTC

On 2024-03-09 01:36:10 +0000, Hank Rogers said:

> Quincy the fifth wrote:
>> Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU
>>
>> Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
>> Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban
>>
>> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union
>>
>>
>
> That's a damn shame.

Meanwhile, New Zealand shops are not allowed to sell UK "Weetabix"
(unless they cover up all the branding) because the greedy scum at the
religious run cereal company Sanitarium* complain that it would confuse
buyers of their "Weet-bix" product. :-\

* Sanitarum, owned by the Seventh-day Adventist Church laughingly call
themselves a "charity" organisation, so get all sorts of tax breaks,
and yet is one of the biggest food companies in New Zealand and
Australia. Just yet another example of the greedy church.
Forget trying to get overseas companies like Apple to pay local taxes,
get these greedy scum to pay their taxes instead!

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by: Alan Browne - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 14:57 UTC

On 2024-03-08 20:22, Quincy the fifth wrote:
> Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU
>
> Company to allow Epic to launch own iPhone app store in region
> Decision comes after EU regulators questioned the ban

No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.

>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-03-08/apple-reverses-move-to-ban-fortnite-maker-from-european-union

1: Please put in links that don't have paywalls.
eg:
https://www.theverge.com/2024/3/8/24094543/epic-games-ios-developer-license-apple-dma

2: Please cite the relevant info, such as:
"" Apple confirmed the decision in an email to The Verge. “Following
conversations with Epic, they have committed to follow the rules,
including our [Digital Markets Act] policies,” said Apple spokesperson
Fred Sainz. “As a result, Epic Sweden AB has been permitted to re-sign
the developer agreement and accepted into the Apple Developer Program.” ""

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by: Ken Blake - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 16:52 UTC

On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:57:50 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:

> No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.

Apple lawyers lied in court and had to be admonished by the judge that they
can't lie (sort of like Donald Trump's lawyers, but not nearly as bad) and
even after that you still believe everything that Apple lawyers tell you?

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by: Alan Browne - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 19:19 UTC

On 2024-03-09 11:52, Ken Blake wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Mar 2024 09:57:50 -0500, Alan Browne wrote:
>
>> No - the decision came after Epic complied to Apple's conditions.
>
> Apple lawyers lied in court and had to be admonished by the judge that they
> can't lie (sort of like Donald Trump's lawyers, but not nearly as bad) and
> even after that you still believe everything that Apple lawyers tell you?

Fact is that Epic had to sign up to the new conditions to get on board.
See the article that I posted.

The rest is just sausage making.

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by: Ken Blake - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 22:39 UTC

Alan Browne wrote:

> The rest is just sausage making.

You're not going to like this post because it contains proof with cites.
All you have is your religious belief that it's immoral for Apple to lie.

Guess what.
Apple is immoral.
Apple gets caught in lies all the time.

It's not surprising that you, a religious fundamentalist, isn't aware of
what everyone else knows, which is that Apple has been proven to be a liar.

So why do you believe anything from Apple when they're often caught lying?

Apple's business model is to lie first & see if they get away with it.
https://www.epicgames.com/site/en-US/news/apple-lied-breaks-its-promise-to-allow-fortnite-back-on-ios-under-its-rules

And it's not just the rampant lies that Apple spews in Marketing adverts.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/apple-lied-about-iphone-x-xs-max-screen-sizes-and-pixel-counts-lawsuit-alleges/

Almost every time Apple settles a lawsuit, it's because Apple lied first.
And usually APple makes myriad excuses for *why* Apple gets caught lying.

Apple lied about data collection by exempting itself from its own rules.
https://www.theregister.com/2022/11/14/apple_data_collection_lawsuit/
"Apple has continuously lied about its tracking system by exempting itself
from the rules."

Apple has to be told to stop lying and ignoring facts by US judges.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/apple-chided-by-appeals-judge-it-heads-us-supreme-court-antitrust-case-2023-07-18/
Apple's arguments "challenge an imagined panel opinion on an imagined
record," Smith wrote."

Multiple judges have said that Apple needs to stop lying to the court.
https://www.cnet.com/tech/tech-industry/judge-we-cant-rely-on-what-apple-tells-court-in-privacy-suit/
"Judge: We can't rely on what Apple tells court"

Apple was proven in court to have lied repeatedly making excuses for their
actions that they knew they did - but they lied and said they didn't do it.
https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936268845/apple-agrees-to-pay-113-million-to-settle-batterygate-case-over-iphone-slowdowns
"Apple first denied that it purposely slowed down iPhone batteries,
then said it did so"
That lie cost Apple probably a billion dollars overall in associated costs.

Those are cites of fact where most of the lawsuits are about Apple's lies.
All you have is your fanatical religious belief that Apple never lies.

Please don't bother giving your religious beliefs as your only argument.
If you don't have any cites of factual evidence, then you are religious.

Religion doesn't need any proof.
Worse. Religion ignores proof.
That's you. And Trump. You're twins.

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by: Hank Rogers - Sat, 9 Mar 2024 23:20 UTC

Ken Blake wrote:
> Guess what.
> Apple is immoral.
> Apple gets caught in lies all the time.

Bullshit. YOU are ARLEN!

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by: Ken Blake - Sun, 10 Mar 2024 04:21 UTC

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Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Quincy the fifth
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Hank Rogers
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Your Name
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Alan Browne
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Ken Blake
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Alan Browne
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Ken Blake
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Hank Rogers
Re: Apple Reverses Move to Ban Fortnite Maker From the EU	Ken Blake