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 by: skybuck2000 - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 04:04 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo

After watching this video the conclusion may be the following:

1. Contradictions are a problem in math.

2. These contradictions seemed to be caused by "self-references".

A possible solution to these problems are to:

3. Detect self-references.

4. Illiminate the self-references or break/solve the self-references.

So for example if the H machine is capable of reducing H+ such that H can detect itself inside H+ then this means:

1. Self reference detected.
2. Possibly contradiction detected.

Now H can try and work out a solution to this problem/contradiction.

3. Basically this could allow H to detect H+ enters an infiniteloop, because H has detected itself inside H+, H knows the real answer to the halting question.

So the output of H+ is no longer relevant ! And can be dismissed as a joke/trojan/thruth manipulator.

H detected the real thruth by detecting itself ! HAHA.

So if H can detect halt or infinity then it will no longer be tricked by any machine H+ incorporating itself H.

So this reduces the halting problem/question to:

Can H detect itself given any program/version of itself ! ;)

A reduction problem it seems.

Goodbye for now,
Skybuck.

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 by: wolfgang kern - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 14:15 UTC

On 13.06.2021 06:04, skybuck2000 wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeQX2HjkcNo

the only solution to detect halting is static code analyze.
running code in debug mode will never help.
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wolfgang

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 by: Skybuck Flying - Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:15 UTC

Perhaps such a machine that can detect itself also has a link to
self-awareness.

Perhaps the halting problem "=?self-referencing" problem and "self
awareness" are related to each other ! ;)

Thus a machine that can detect "self referencing" might become
self-aware !

A bit freightening thought if you have seen THE TERMINATORRRRRRRR ! =D

Bye,
Skybuck.

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