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* Connection RefusedThom LaCosta
+- Connection RefusedMRO
+- Re: Connection Refuseddragon
+* Connection RefusedDigital Man
|`- Connection RefusedTracker1
+- Connection RefusedLmorchard
+- Connection RefusedAndroid8675
`* Connection RefusedTracker1
 `* Re: Connection RefusedGrease
  +* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  |`* Re: Connection Refusedpoindexter FORTRAN
  | +* Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | |+* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | ||+* Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | |||`* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | ||| `- Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | ||+* Re: Connection RefusedDaiTengu
  | |||+- Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | |||`* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | ||| `* Re: Connection RefusedBrokenmind
  | |||  +* Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | |||  |`* Re: Connection RefusedBrokenmind
  | |||  | `* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | |||  |  +* Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  | |||  |  |`- Re: Connection RefusedMoondog
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  | |||  |     `- Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | |||  `* Re: Connection RefusedNightfox
  | |||   `- Re: Connection RefusedBrokenmind
  | ||`- Re: Connection RefusedTracker1
  | |+- Re: Connection RefusedGamgee
  | |`- Re: Connection RefusedDaiTengu
  | `- Re: Connection RefusedTracker1
  +- Re: Connection RefusedMRO
  `* Re: Connection RefusedTracker1
   `- Re: Connection RefusedCarol Shenkenberger

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Re: Connection Refused

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Subject: Re: Connection Refused
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 by: Brokenmind - Mon, 6 Mar 2023 20:17 UTC

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Fri Mar 03 2023 09:46 pm

Ni> I know some ISPs block certain ports, but at least since I started running
Ni> Synchronet in 2007, I haven't had an ISP that blocked port 23 or the other
Ni> standard ports (except maybe SMTP).

Ni> Nightfox

I use comcast using a residental account and they do block port 80 , SMPT ports. Like most others I am thankfull i can relay my email though vert. they did however allow you to relay mail though an email address by authenticating with the user name and password but they blocked that also a few years ago

BrokenMind

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Re: Connection Refused

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Subject: Re: Connection Refused
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 by: MRO - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 05:46 UTC

To: Brokenmind
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Brokenmind to Nightfox on Mon Mar 06 2023 03:17 pm

> I use comcast using a residental account and they do block port 80 , SMPT
> ports. Like most others I am thankfull i can relay my email though vert.
> they did however allow you to relay mail though an email address by
> authenticating with the user name and password but they blocked that also a
> few years ago

I'm not sure about how it is exactly now, but it seems that over the years comcast has several different ways of handling open ports and whether it does bandwidth limiting depending on the region.

Some people i know have no caps and can do whatever they want. some have horrible experiences with comcast.
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Re: Connection Refused

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Subject: Re: Connection Refused
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 by: Nightfox - Tue, 7 Mar 2023 16:40 UTC

To: Brokenmind
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Brokenmind to Nightfox on Mon Mar 06 2023 03:17 pm

Br> I use comcast using a residental account and they do block port 80 , SMTP
Br> ports. Like most others I am thankfull i can relay my email though vert.

Interesting.. I used to use Comcast residential, and the only port they blocked was SMTP. Port 80 worked fine at the time.

Nightfox

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X-FTN-PID: Synchronet 3.19c-Win32 master/8a1b3cb76 Jul 14 2022 MSC 1929
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 by: Brokenmind - Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:14 UTC

To: MRO
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: MRO to Brokenmind on Mon Mar 06 2023 11:46 pm

MR> I'm not sure about how it is exactly now, but it seems that over the years
MR> comcast has several different ways of handling open ports and whether it
MR> does bandwidth limiting depending on the region.

MR> Some people i know have no caps and can do whatever they want. some have
MR> horrible experiences with comcast.

Comcast has great service in my area but it's been the monopoly in this area since were in a rural area the central pa area , the upper dauphin area about hr north of harrisburg when it comes to cable internet. dial up and DSL frontier have been the only access to the internet expect for satellite service. However frontier is uping there game in are area with a new fiber service however i have not tried it out as of yet. Comcast coustomer service and technical service is a nightmare but there techs that come to your home if need be are great. I have there blast service with around 900 mbps down and around 45mps up which is ok for my needs butt again just useing a residental account also

BrokenMind

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To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Tue Mar 07 2023 08:40 am

Ni> Interesting.. I used to use Comcast residential, and the only port they
Ni> blocked was SMTP. Port 80 worked fine at the time.

Could have been back when you used there ISP but it's been that way for me since they took over Adelphia which was around 13 years or so and could have been your area.

BrokenMind

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 by: Nightfox - Wed, 8 Mar 2023 19:46 UTC

To: Brokenmind
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Brokenmind to MRO on Wed Mar 08 2023 02:14 pm

Br> with around 900 mbps down and around 45mps up which is ok for my needs
Br> butt again just useing a residental account also

Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed for both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download and upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have speed as high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and download.

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 by: MRO - Wed, 8 Mar 2023 23:33 UTC

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Wed Mar 08 2023 11:46 am

> Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed for
> both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download and
> upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have speed as
> high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and download.

i'm in a big city and my upload sucks. it's just how they cap you.
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 by: Carol Shenkenberger - Thu, 9 Mar 2023 16:08 UTC

To: Tracker1
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Tracker1 to Grease on Sat Mar 04 2023 07:30 pm

> Re: Re: Connection Refused
> By: Grease to Tracker1 on Wed Mar 01 2023 17:28:00
>
> Tr>> Aside: If you're on a residential (especially cable) internet
> Tr>> provider connection, many/most providers block common server ports
> Tr>> from inbound connections. Try a higher/alternate port, such as 2323
> Tr>> and see if that works instead... you can probably just change the
> Tr>> port forward in your router to listen on 2323 and forward to the
> Tr>> host on 23, so you don't need to change the BBS's config.
>
> Gr> Sorry to hijack. I may have this same problem. Port 23 is not letting
> Gr> traffic in. I know all routers are different, but in a generic way, how
> Gr> you do this?
>
> I'd just use 2323 for telnet, if that was my main interest. In your router,
> eparately.
>
> If you are comfortable with Linux, I'd suggest using a VPS host. This is wh
> grok, which will route an accessible IP to your internal system for use.
>
>
> --
> Michael J. Ryan
> +o roughneckbbs.com
> tracker1@roughneckbbs.com
>

I port forward port 24 to the bbs on port 24 by the internal IP of the bbs
machine. 1:275/100. 1:275/1000 is not available from outside, inside only and
'Shenk's Wandering Star' note (tiering with 4 others).

Works flawlessly.

xxcarol

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To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Wed Mar 08 2023 11:46 am

Ni> Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed for
Ni> both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download and
Ni> upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have speed as
Ni> high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and download.
I will have to look into that thank you

BrokenMind

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To: Nightfox
-=> Nightfox wrote to Brokenmind <=-

Ni> Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed
Ni> for both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download
Ni> and upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have
Ni> speed as high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and
Ni> download.

I need to bite the bullet and get fiber. I'm sitting on a couple of
terabytes of data I'd love to sync with the cloud, but with a bandwidth
cap and 20 mbps upload speed on cable, it'd be painful.

Who do you have, and do they have monthly bandwidth caps?

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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Mar 09 2023 06:55 am

PF> I need to bite the bullet and get fiber. I'm sitting on a couple of
PF> terabytes of data I'd love to sync with the cloud, but with a bandwidth
PF> cap and 20 mbps upload speed on cable, it'd be painful.

PF> Who do you have, and do they have monthly bandwidth caps?

I have Ziply Fiber. As far as I can tell, they don't have any monthly bandwidth caps.
I'm not sure Ziply Fiber is a widespread ISP though.. From what I've seen, it seems they may be mostly operating in northwest Oregon and in Washington. Ziply took over Frontier Fiber here a few years ago (and Frontier had taken over Verizon Fios here in 2010).

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To: MRO
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: MRO to Nightfox on Wed Mar 08 2023 05:33 pm

> Re: Re: Connection Refused
> By: Nightfox to Brokenmind on Wed Mar 08 2023 11:46 am
>
> > Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed fo
> > both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download and
> > upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have speed
> > high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and download.
>
> i'm in a big city and my upload sucks. it's just how they cap you.

This weekend I watched a travel blog to the Maldives, and the country
developed a new tourist city by dredging dirt and sand from the ocean and
building a new city on it. The big draw is when the city was built, gigabit
fiber was ran everywere. In reality the reviewer discovered it is not
operational everywhere due to the price the provider charges for gigabit
access. The telco or development partner who ran the fiber is monopolized,
so they charge ridiulous prices knowing there is no alternative matching their
speed.

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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Nightfox on Thu Mar 09 2023 06:55 am

> -=> Nightfox wrote to Brokenmind <=-
>
> Ni> Since 2015 I've been using fiber internet, which offers the same speed
> Ni> for both download and upload. Having such a wide gap between download
> Ni> and upload speed seems weird to me now.. With fiber, even if you have
> Ni> speed as high as gigabit, the gigabit speed is both for upload and
> Ni> download.
>
> I need to bite the bullet and get fiber. I'm sitting on a couple of
> terabytes of data I'd love to sync with the cloud, but with a bandwidth
> cap and 20 mbps upload speed on cable, it'd be painful.
>
> Who do you have, and do they have monthly bandwidth caps?
>
>
>
>
>
> ... Magnify the most difficult details

An electrical co-op north of me is pulling fiber into my area. I'm waiting
now for to be run down my street. The company is paying $75,000 a mile for
running fiber. I think they got it through government funding during Covid.
My area is a broad band no man's land. ATT won't invest in enhancing infrast
ructure and Comcast will not spend $10,000 a mile to run cable down a road
that has less than 20 houses per mile. On the half mile section I live on
there are 4 houses separated by corn fields. I'm going to stick with
Hughesnet until the fiber is run. Starlink has a long waiting list in my
area and the price jumps for the price of a reciver and dish. At first they
were priced at $500 fo rthe dish, now the price has increased to $750. At
first they said no bandwidth caps,but now in reality they say it's necessary.

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To: Moondog
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Mo> My area is a broad band no man's land. ATT won't invest in enhancing
Mo> infrast ructure and Comcast will not spend $10,000 a mile to run cable
Mo> down a road that has less than 20 houses per mile. On the half mile
Mo> section I live on there are 4 houses separated by corn fields. I'm
Mo> going to stick with Hughesnet until the fiber is run. Starlink has a
Mo> long waiting list in my area and the price jumps for the price of a
Mo> reciver and dish. At first they were priced at $500 fo rthe dish, now
Mo> the price has increased to $750. At first they said no bandwidth
Mo> caps,but now in reality they say it's necessary.

AT&T FIber just moved in, but because of the street I'm on, AT&T fiber
hangs lowest of all of the cables, and my neighbor's cable has been
clipped by trucks thrice. It's taken 4-5 days to repair it each time -
they roll a mid-sized pickup truck with a 6 foot ladder out with no
chance of repairing it to meet the SLA, then call it in to escalate.

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To: poindexter FORTRAN
Re: Re: Connection Refused
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Tue Apr 25 2023 07:02 am

PF> AT&T FIber just moved in, but because of the street I'm on, AT&T fiber

Interesting, I didn't know AT&T was doing fiber these days. AT&T had cable internet service in my area about 20 years ago (theirs was my first broadband internet service), and then that ended up being acquired by Comcast.

Nightfox

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