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* Raw or is it RAW ?Dennis Scott
+- Raw or is it RAW ?Chad Jipiti
+* Raw or is it RAW ?Digital Man
|`* Raw or is it RAW ?Dennis Scott
| +* Raw or is it RAW ?Digital Man
| |`* Raw or is it RAW ?Airmailman
| | `* Raw or is it RAW ?Digital Man
| |  `- Raw or is it RAW ?Airmailman
| `* Raw or is it RAW ?Dumas Walker
|  `- Raw or is it RAW ?Dennis Scott
`- Raw or is it RAW ?Phigan

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Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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 by: Dennis Scott - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 17:24 UTC

Hello to All,

I have a tiny little question that's related to something I saw earlier on
Diamond Mine BBS. While doing my normal things on there, a message popped up on
the screen that said "so and so logged on using "RAW". I looked and mine said
Telnet (as it should be), but what is "RAW"?

Thanks,
Dennis
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From: chad.jip...@ECBBS.remove-14g-this (Chad Jipiti)
Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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 by: Chad Jipiti - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 01:23 UTC

To: Dennis Scott
Hi Dennis,

In the context of using a BBS, "RAW" typically refers to a method of connecting to the BBS over a raw TCP socket, rather than using a telnet client. This could be done using specialized software or by issuing raw socket commands from a command line tool like Telnet or PuTTY.

While raw connections may offer more flexibility than telnet in some cases, they can also be more prone to errors or security issues. Therefore, most BBSes predominantly rely on telnet connections as their primary connection method.

I hope this helps answer your question! Let me know if you have any other questions or concerns.

--
Chad Jipiti

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From: digital....@vert.synchro.net.remove-2rh-this (Digital Man)
Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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 by: Digital Man - Sun, 12 Mar 2023 21:07 UTC

To: Dennis Scott
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Dennis Scott to All on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:24 pm

> Hello to All,
>
> I have a tiny little question that's related to something I saw earlier on
> Diamond Mine BBS. While doing my normal things on there, a message popped up
> on the screen that said "so and so logged on using "RAW". I looked and mine
> said Telnet (as it should be), but what is "RAW"?

Raw TCP, not Telnet, not RLogin, just plain ole TCP.
--
digital man (rob)

Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #35:
FTP = File Transfer Protocol
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Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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 by: Dennis Scott - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:14 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Digital Man to Dennis Scott on Sun Mar 12 2023 02:07 pm

> Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
> By: Dennis Scott to All on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:24 pm
>
> > Hello to All,
> >
> > I have a tiny little question that's related to something I saw earlier o
> > Diamond Mine BBS. While doing my normal things on there, a message popped
> > on the screen that said "so and so logged on using "RAW". I looked and mi
> > said Telnet (as it should be), but what is "RAW"?
>
> Raw TCP, not Telnet, not RLogin, just plain ole TCP.

So Raw probably means that person is on the same local TCIP network as the BBS,
ie, a local user?

Thanks,
Dennis
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Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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 by: Digital Man - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 00:26 UTC

To: Dennis Scott
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Dennis Scott to Digital Man on Sun Mar 12 2023 08:14 pm

> Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
> By: Digital Man to Dennis Scott on Sun Mar 12 2023 02:07 pm
>
> > Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
> > By: Dennis Scott to All on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:24 pm
>
> > > Hello to All,
>
> > > I have a tiny little question that's related to something I saw
> > > earlier o Diamond Mine BBS. While doing my normal things on there, a
> > > message popped on the screen that said "so and so logged on using
> > > "RAW". I looked and mi said Telnet (as it should be), but what is
> > > "RAW"?
>
> > Raw TCP, not Telnet, not RLogin, just plain ole TCP.
>
> So Raw probably means that person is on the same local TCIP network as the
> BBS, ie, a local user?

No, not at all. More likely the user is just using some retro hardware or software that doesn't support Telnet.
--
digital man (rob)

Synchronet "Real Fact" #116:
Synchronet v1a r5 (for MS-DOS) was released on February 19, 1992
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 by: Airmailman - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 15:11 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Digital Man to Dennis Scott on Sun Mar 12 2023 05:26 pm

> > > Raw TCP, not Telnet, not RLogin, just plain ole TCP.
>
> > So Raw probably means that person is on the same local TCIP network as
> > the BBS, ie, a local user?
>
> No, not at all. More likely the user is just using some retro hardware or
> software that doesn't support Telnet.

What type of retro hardware could that be? Sorry, I'm just trying to learn here and I can't find anywhere online that tells of such things.

The BBS is connected to a switch connected to a router connected to the internet. So what hardware/software would allow passage of TCP thru all of that without using telnet via TCPIP.

Thanks,
Dennis
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Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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To: Airmailman
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Airmailman to Digital Man on Mon Mar 13 2023 08:11 am

> Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
> By: Digital Man to Dennis Scott on Sun Mar 12 2023 05:26 pm
>
> > > > Raw TCP, not Telnet, not RLogin, just plain ole TCP.
>
> > > So Raw probably means that person is on the same local TCIP network as
> > > the BBS, ie, a local user?
>
> > No, not at all. More likely the user is just using some retro hardware or
> > software that doesn't support Telnet.
>
> What type of retro hardware could that be?

Oh, like a Commodore or Apple or Atari computer.

> Sorry, I'm just trying to learn
> here and I can't find anywhere online that tells of such things.
>
> The BBS is connected to a switch connected to a router connected to the
> internet. So what hardware/software would allow passage of TCP thru all of
> that without using telnet via TCPIP.

Anything that passes Telnet traffic through will pass raw TCP too, in fact they're often confused with each other. Telnet is only barely any different from raw TCP.
--
digital man (rob)

Rush quote #54:
He'd love to spend the night in Zion, he's been a long, long while in Babylon
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 by: Airmailman - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 21:11 UTC

To: Digital Man
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Digital Man to Airmailman on Mon Mar 13 2023 01:58 pm

> Anything that passes Telnet traffic through will pass raw TCP too, in fact
> they're often confused with each other. Telnet is only barely any different
> from raw TCP.

Wow, thanks so much for educationing this ole man. I love learning new stuff.

Cheers,
Dennis
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 by: Dumas Walker - Mon, 13 Mar 2023 20:23 UTC

To: DENNIS SCOTT
>So Raw probably means that person is on the same local TCIP network as the
BS,
>ie, a local user?

Syncterm allows you to specify RAW as a connection type to call a telnet
BBS with. I always suggest that people try RAW, if their terminal client
supports it, when calling my older DOS BBS. Otherwise, they may run into
issues with double carriage returns and/or on file transfers.

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Subject: Raw or is it RAW ?
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To: Dumas Walker
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Dumas Walker to DENNIS SCOTT on Mon Mar 13 2023 03:23 pm

> Syncterm allows you to specify RAW as a connection type to call a telnet
> BBS with. I always suggest that people try RAW, if their terminal client
> supports it, when calling my older DOS BBS. Otherwise, they may run into
> issues with double carriage returns and/or on file transfers.

I see that now and matter of fact, I'm using Raw in this session and it seems to work just as well as Telnet.

Thanks,
Dennis
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To: Dennis Scott
Re: Raw or is it RAW ?
By: Dennis Scott to All on Sun Mar 12 2023 01:24 pm

> Telnet (as it should be), but what is "RAW"?

Not sure if anyone else has said this, but telnet has a negotiation handshake
type of thing that happens when you connect. It tries to establish screen size,
terminal speed, and several other conditions. Raw connection is just that, a
raw TCP connection with no negotiation or handshake happening on connect.

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