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SubjectAuthor
* Updated ATI 8514 Ultra pageLouis Ohland
+* Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra pageTomas Slavotinek
|`* Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra pageLouis Ohland
| `* Re: Threads...Tomas Slavotinek
|  `* No rules, just rights? Re: Threads...Louis Ohland
|   `- Re: No rules, just rights? Re: Threads...Tomas Slavotinek
`* [Update] ATI 8514 UltraTomas Slavotinek
 `* Re: [Update] ATI 8514 UltraLouis Ohland
  `* Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter ModuleTomas Slavotinek
   `* Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter ModuleLouis Ohland
    `* Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter ModuleTomas Slavotinek
     `* Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter ModuleLouis Ohland
      `- Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter ModuleTomas Slavotinek

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Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page

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From: ohl...@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:50:00 -0600
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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 15:50 UTC

http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
live links for ATI Graphics controller images.

Nothing new for drivers.

Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page

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From: slavoti...@gmail.com (Tomas Slavotinek)
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Subject: Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:23:07 +0100
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:23 UTC

Louis, pls, use threads... :/

But nice work otherwise.

I'm gonna do the outlines. Was the photo from Alexandros
clipped/resized? If so, send me the original please.

On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>
> Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
> live links for ATI Graphics controller images.
>
> Nothing new for drivers.

Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page

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Subject: Re: Updated ATI 8514 Ultra page
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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:38 UTC

Tom, I know your eyes are full of tears. Get me a tissue...

When you come up with snippets, do what you wanna do... Top post, bottom
post, cross post, cross dress, whatever.

Row of children sitting quietly, not moving, perfectly immobile.

Is threads = control ?

On 1/31/2022 11:23, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> Louis, pls, use threads... :/
>
> But nice work otherwise.
>
> I'm gonna do the outlines. Was the photo from Alexandros
> clipped/resized? If so, send me the original please.
>
> On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>>
>> Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
>> foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.
>>
>> Nothing new for drivers.
>

Re: Threads...

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 18:06 UTC

On 31.01.2022 18:38, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Is threads = control ?

Oh c'mon, it just makes things less messy.

Sure if a thread gets too long/wide/deep/whatever, then why not create a
new one. But not everyone is interested into bits and bobs of ATI 8514
Ultra, so no need to have 50 different threads about it IMHO.

Just a suggestion ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

No rules, just rights? Re: Threads...

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 by: Louis Ohland - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:11 UTC

Mile wide and inch deep?

What if someone searches for a phrase that oddly is included in the
message title?

So... what is the difference between re-naming a message in a thread,
-OR- just making a massage with a different title?

On 1/31/2022 12:06, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> too long/wide/deep/whatever

Re: No rules, just rights? Re: Threads...

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Mon, 31 Jan 2022 21:55 UTC

On 31.01.2022 22:11, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Mile wide and inch deep?
>
> What if someone searches for a phrase that oddly is included in the
> message title?
>
> So... what is the difference between re-naming a message in a thread,
> -OR- just making a massage with a different title?
>
> On 1/31/2022 12:06, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> too long/wide/deep/whatever
>

Honestly, I thought the difference was obvious. Maybe your client
doesn't support threading properly? (Thunderbird may not be the best
newsreader but it supports threads relatively well, and even Google
Groups supports it)

If you post all related stuff to the same thread, the entire discussion
tree takes only one top-level slot/line (unless you expand it). So, if
somebody isn't interested in a particular topic, he/she/it can simply
ignore that line (and perhaps mark it as read) and move to the next one
to see what else is new. It can be rather annoying when you have to
munch through multiple top-level posts that are all touching on the same
general topic. Unrelated topics posted somewhere in the middle of the
"avalanche" can be easily missed.

Threading also makes sure that all related info stays grouped together,
even if the thread gets necro'd some 5 years later.

There are other reasons as well. The stuff I've mentioned is what I see
as most beneficial here.

Some may say it's an "unwritten rule"... I'd call it a good practice.
But I understand that everyone has somewhat different preferences/habits
when it comes to stuff like this.

[Update] ATI 8514 Ultra

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 00:25 UTC

Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned up/reorganized...

https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html

On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>
> Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF, foundt
> live links for ATI Graphics controller images.
>
> Nothing new for drivers.

Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra

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 by: Louis Ohland - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 03:24 UTC

Huh, what's U2, LM339 Quad Voltage Comparator doing on the adapter module?

On 1/31/2022 18:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned
> up/reorganized...
>
> https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>
> On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>>
>> Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
>> foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.
>>
>> Nothing new for drivers.
>

Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter Module

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 10:49 UTC

I'd say monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the
monitor ID bits).

The TO-92 part (REG1) is most likely a reference for the DAC.

On 01.02.2022 4:24, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Huh, what's U2, LM339 Quad Voltage Comparator doing on the adapter module?
>
> On 1/31/2022 18:25, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> Changes merged in, outlines and photos added, page cleaned
>> up/reorganized...
>>
>> https://ardent-tool.com/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>>
>> On 31.01.2022 16:50, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> http://ps-2.kev009.com/ohland/video/ATI_8514_Ultra.html
>>>
>>> Added datasheets for Dot Clock Generator, RAMDAC, re-linked ADF,
>>> foundt live links for ATI Graphics controller images.
>>>
>>> Nothing new for drivers.
>>

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From: ohl...@charter.net (Louis Ohland)
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Subject: Re: [Update] ATI 8514 Ultra Adapter Module
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 07:06:08 -0600
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 by: Louis Ohland - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:06 UTC

Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?

On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor ID
> bits).

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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:14 UTC

Yep.

On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
> Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?
>
> On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
>> ID bits).
>

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 by: Louis Ohland - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:16 UTC

What happens if there is no monitor attached?

On 2/1/2022 07:14, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
> Yep.
>
> On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
>> Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?
>>
>> On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>>> monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
>>> ID bits).
>>
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 by: Tomas Slavotinek - Tue, 1 Feb 2022 13:31 UTC

I assume it defaults to the Base Video monitor output. At least for the
VGA modes...

And it probably sets some register flag(s) as well.

On 01.02.2022 14:16, Louis Ohland wrote:
> What happens if there is no monitor attached?
>
> On 2/1/2022 07:14, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>> Yep.
>>
>> On 01.02.2022 14:06, Louis Ohland wrote:
>>> Sensing to do what? Presence/absence of a monitor?
>>>
>>> On 2/1/2022 04:49, Tomas Slavotinek wrote:
>>>> monitor sensing once again (on the analog RGB lines, not the monitor
>>>> ID bits).
>>>
>>
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