Hello,

I now have a reason ably working news server (dodin.fr.nf), but still a
lot of things to check. Here cleanfeed.

at the start of the story, one week ago, I had

> ctlinnd mode
(...)
Perl filtering enabled

but now I have

news@ns507557:/etc/news> ctlinnd mode
Server running
Allowing remote connections
Parameters c 10 i 50 (1) l 5000000 o 1010 t 300 H 2 T 60 X 0 normal
specified
Not reserved
Readers follow enabled
*Perl filtering disabled*

and

news@ns507557:/etc/news> ctlinnd reload filter.perl 'test'
ctlinnd: Failed to define filter_art

when may I look? logs are mostly empty

thanks
jdd

On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 19:09:19 +0100
jdanield <jdd@dodin.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I now have a reason ably working news server (dodin.fr.nf), but still a
> lot of things to check. Here cleanfeed.
>
> news@ns507557:/etc/news> ctlinnd reload filter.perl 'test'
> ctlinnd: Failed to define filter_art
>
> when may I look? logs are mostly empty

Take a look at the cleanfeed instructions: https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html

You should only be editing cleanfeed.local with any changes you make, but I would just do a fresh install of cleanfeed, then make sure it's working before making any changes.

You can check your cleanfeed.local file after any changes you make with:
perl -wc /usr/local/news/cleanfeed/etc/cleanfeed.local
or wherever you have that file.

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Retro Guy <retroguy@novabbs.com>

Le 23/12/2021 à 23:46, Retro Guy a écrit :

> Take a look at the cleanfeed instructions: https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html

well... I read them at least three time, but this is as clear as mud :-(

>
> You should only be editing cleanfeed.local with any changes you make,

I have no cleanfeed.local, only a sample file with code content and:

# Before using any of this code please *think*, and be sure you really
# understand what it does.

but I don't understand anything in it :-(

but I would just do a fresh install of cleanfeed, then make sure it's
working before making any changes.
>
> You can check your cleanfeed.local file after any changes you make with:
> perl -wc /usr/local/news/cleanfeed/etc/cleanfeed.local
> or wherever you have that file.
>

news@ns507557:/etc/news/cleanfeed-master> perl -wc cleanfeed.local.sample
Name "main::localfeed" used only once: possible typo at
cleanfeed.local.sample line 45.
Name "main::localpost" used only once: possible typo at
cleanfeed.local.sample line 101.
Name "main::lines" used only once: possible typo at
cleanfeed.local.sample line 205.
Name "main::Moderated" used only once: possible typo at
cleanfeed.local.sample line 205.
cleanfeed.local.sample syntax OK

but with "Perl filtering disabled" it most probably don't works.

just now I fail to understand how I have disabled perl when it worked at
first :-(

thanks
jdd

Le 23/12/2021 à 19:09, jdanield a écrit :

> *Perl filtering disabled*
>

solved...

details here:

http://dodin.me/wiki/pmwiki.php?n=Doc.ConfigurerINN-2021#toc-12

summary:

* perl is allowed *only* if filter_innd.pl exists.

there is a stub one by default, so perl is enabled, but as long as the
default files are moved to an other folder it stopped working.

* in the cleanfeed folder, there is a filter_nnrpd.pl file, but no
filter_innd.pl... I didn't figure than the filter_innd.pl was merely
"cleanfeed"

with the two links

news@ns507557:/etc/news/filter> ll
total 8
lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 36 24 déc. 08:52 filter_innd.pl ->
/etc/news/cleanfeed-master/cleanfeed
lrwxrwxrwx 1 news news 42 22 déc. 09:53 filter_nnrpd.pl ->
/etc/news/cleanfeed-master/filter_nnrpd.pl

all seems to work again.

It's probably the same problem that prevent me to have a working pyclean
filter. But as long as I have cleanfeed, I will stay with it.

thanks for every people taking the time to help me :-)

happy Christmas
jdd

Bonjour Jean-Daniel,
>> Take a look at the cleanfeed instructions:
>> https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html
>
> well... I read them at least three time, but this is as clear as mud :-(

And did you try to follow this great install guide in French?
There's a section dedicated to Cleanfeed:

https://git.alphanet.ch/gitweb/?p=inn-install/.git;a=blob_plain;f=README.html;hb=HEAD#installer-cleanfeed

If something is not clear, do not hesitate to provide suggestions to
improve it (in the fr.comp.usenet.serveurs newsgroup).

It also contains useful information about how to set up:
- newsfeeds
- innfeed.conf
- incoming.conf

--
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« La vie n'est qu'un tissu de coups de poignard qu'il faut savoir boire
goutte à goutte. »

Le 24/12/2021 à 10:09, Julien ÉLIE a écrit :

> And did you try to follow this great install guide in French?
> There's a section dedicated to Cleanfeed:

yes, I did, but the various official or semi official docs do not give
exactly same indications :-(

for example I have no etc folder in any cleanfeed archive, nor
cleanfeed.local anywhere

$config_dir = '/etc/news/filter/cleanfeed/etc';

and news.notice is empty

I also don't like working as root because I fear permissions problems.

inncheck -a is ok (no message)

(see later for the end of your message :-)

thanks
jdd

Hi,

jdd a écrit :
> Le 24/12/2021 à 10:09, Julien ÉLIE a écrit :
>> And did you try to follow this great install guide in French?
>> There's a section dedicated to Cleanfeed:
> yes, I did, but the various official or semi official docs do not give
> exactly same indications :-(

There is on eyrie and in a man (of inn.conf?) a table of the variable
paths...

> for example I have no etc folder in any cleanfeed archive, nor
> cleanfeed.local anywhere

> $config_dir = '/etc/news/filter/cleanfeed/etc';

You don't have the entire cleanfeed (there is a complete install archive and
an update archive...).

> and news.notice is empty

It is a syslog configuration to add (normally by default but not always...)
I will look at my servers to look at my non-standard configuration...

> I also don't like working as root because I fear permissions problems.

There is some tricks to block access to root's scripts but not so simple but
documented...

If there's a bug on the doc please discuss on the french usenet.serveurs
group.

--
Stéphane

Le 25/12/2021 à 12:53, yamo' a écrit :

>> for example I have no etc folder in any cleanfeed archive, nor
>> cleanfeed.local anywhere
>
>> $config_dir = '/etc/news/filter/cleanfeed/etc';
>
> You don't have the entire cleanfeed (there is a complete install archive and
> an update archive...).

nothing here:

https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed/

from

https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html

there no etc on github (neither in any tar.gz I could download), may be
the repo changed since the doc was written?

the content advertised here

https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html

is not in etc but in "samples"

thanks
jdd

Bonjour Jean-Daniel,

>>> for example I have no etc folder in any cleanfeed archive, nor
>>> cleanfeed.local anywhere
>>
>>> $config_dir = '/etc/news/filter/cleanfeed/etc';
>>
>> You don't have the entire cleanfeed (there is a complete install
>> archive and
>> an update archive...).
>
> nothing here:
>
> https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed/
>
> from
>
> https://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/install.html

All of the files for "cleanfeed/etc" are present in the "samples"
directory of the above GitHub link. You can just download them from there.

On my news server:

~/cleanfeed% ls -l
-rwxr-xr-x 1 news news 95K 4 déc. 12:49 cleanfeed*
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 21 nov. 10:24 etc/
drwxr-xr-x 2 news news 4,0K 20 sept. 09:50 logs/

~/cleanfeed% ls -l etc
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 265 20 sept. 10:01 bad_adult_paths
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 529 20 sept. 10:02 bad_body
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 419 20 sept. 10:02 bad_cancel_paths
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 604 20 sept. 10:02 bad_from
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 261 20 sept. 10:02 bad_groups
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 265 20 sept. 10:02 bad_hosts
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 1,2K 20 sept. 10:02 bad_paths
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 598 20 sept. 10:02 bad_subject
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 619 20 sept. 10:02 bad_url
-rw-r--r-- 1 news news 8,7K 20 sept. 10:06 cleanfeed.local

I've set:

$config_dir = '/home/news/cleanfeed/etc';

but you can of course put the whole stuff elsewhere (even in the
bin/filter directory of INN, where filter_innd.pl is).

> is not in etc but in "samples"

Yes, take the files from there.
I agree the install guide should speak of that directory instead of
"etc". I've just reported the issue:
https://github.com/crooks/cleanfeed/issues/4

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Ceux qui croient être arrivés n'ont jamais eu l'intention d'aller bien
loin. »

Le 25/12/2021 à 16:02, Julien ÉLIE a écrit :

> All of the files for "cleanfeed/etc" are present in the "samples"
> directory of the above GitHub link. You can just download them from there

I already have them in the cleanfeed repo, so may be

ln -s samples/ etc

is enough?

> I've set:
>
> $config_dir = '/home/news/cleanfeed/etc';

seems to be default in filter_innd.pl (or cleanfeed)

I see in the "badurl" folder two python scripts do you know what they
are for?

thanks
jdd

Bonsoir Jean-Daniel,

> I already have them in the cleanfeed repo, so may be
>
> ln -s samples/ etc
>
> is enough?

mv samples etc
would also work and be cleaner than adding a symlink.

>> I've set:
>>
>> $config_dir = '/home/news/cleanfeed/etc';
>
> seems to be default in filter_innd.pl (or cleanfeed)
>
> I see in the "badurl" folder two python scripts do you know what they
> are for?

I think it is the script Steve used to generate the global
bad_hosts_central file as described in:
http://www.mixmin.net/cleanfeed/bad_hosts_central.html

Nevertheless, this file is no longer generated.
But don't worry, you do not need bad_hosts_central nor these Python
scripts to make Cleanfeed work.

--
Julien ÉLIE

« Ceux qui croient être arrivés n'ont jamais eu l'intention d'aller bien
loin. »