I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden
but the (aka) ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither
slackpkg nor slkpkg offer any clues as to where the distro's
libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be found (and hopefully
installed). On most other distros the dssi is either a
standalone package or part of the Zyn package or yet just
plain bundled with Rosegarden. I have the Zyn package
installed and according to some pages the dssi should be
in it but RG doesn't show it! What conflicts might arise
if I manage to find the developer's Zyn tarball and compile
it in hopes of getting ITS dssi installed as well? What's
the situation with Slackware? Thanks.

--
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Kernel=5.15.117 on x86_64,DM=Unknown, DE=XFCE,
ST=tty,grub2, GPT, BIOS-boot
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On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:25:05 -0400, bad sector wrote:

> I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden but the (aka)
> ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither slackpkg nor slkpkg offer
> any clues as to where the distro's libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be
> found

I haven't tried it myself, but a quick search at google found:

http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/zynaddsubfx/
and
http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/dssi/

regards Henrik

On 30/08/2023 21:55, bad sector wrote:
>
> I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden
> but the (aka) ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither
> slackpkg nor slkpkg offer any clues as to where the distro's
> libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be found (and hopefully
> installed). On most other distros the dssi is either a
> standalone package or part of the Zyn package or yet just
> plain bundled with Rosegarden. I have the Zyn package
> installed and according to some pages the dssi should be
> in it but RG doesn't show it! What conflicts might arise
> if I manage to find the developer's Zyn tarball and compile
> it in hopes of getting ITS dssi installed as well? What's
> the situation with Slackware? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
Maybe
https://slackware.uk/people/alien/sbrepos/15.0/x86_64/dssi/dssi-1.1.1-x86_64-1alien.tgz
??

On 31/08/2023 15:44, David Robley wrote:
> On 30/08/2023 21:55, bad sector wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden
>> but the (aka) ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither
>> slackpkg nor slkpkg offer any clues as to where the distro's
>> libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be found (and hopefully
>> installed). On most other distros the dssi is either a
>> standalone package or part of the Zyn package or yet just
>> plain bundled with Rosegarden. I have the Zyn package
>> installed and according to some pages the dssi should be
>> in it but RG doesn't show it! What conflicts might arise
>> if I manage to find the developer's Zyn tarball and compile
>> it in hopes of getting ITS dssi installed as well? What's
>> the situation with Slackware? Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Maybe
> https://slackware.uk/people/alien/sbrepos/15.0/x86_64/dssi/dssi-1.1.1-x86_64-1alien.tgz ??

For future reference when you are looking for some package that isn't
part of the Slackware installation, try https://pkgs.org/

On 8/31/23 01:28, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2023 08:25:05 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden but the (aka)
>> ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither slackpkg nor slkpkg offer
>> any clues as to where the distro's libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be
>> found
>
> I haven't tried it myself, but a quick search at google found:
>
> http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/zynaddsubfx/
> and
> http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slackbuilds/dssi/
>
> regards Henrik

Both zynaddsubfx and dssi are installed, I even installed zynjacku
although I don't think I need it. I also remember vaguely that some apps
need to be installed BEFORE ones needing them; done that too by deleting
and reinstalling rosegarden. But Rosegarden will not show the ZASF or
ZynAddSubFX (as it may be called) dssi in the synth dropdown list.

One strange detail is that when I launch the standalone ZynAdSubFX synth
I get this error:

"Default IO did not initialize. Defaulting to NULL backend"

As far as I can figure since this is NOT
the dssi any problem it has is unrelated.

On 8/31/23 03:28, David Robley wrote:
> On 31/08/2023 15:44, David Robley wrote:
>> On 30/08/2023 21:55, bad sector wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to get ZynAddSubFX to work inside Rosegarden
>>> but the (aka) ZASF-dssi is absent so it's a no-go. Neither
>>> slackpkg nor slkpkg offer any clues as to where the distro's
>>> libzynaddsubfx_dssi package could be found (and hopefully
>>> installed). On most other distros the dssi is either a
>>> standalone package or part of the Zyn package or yet just
>>> plain bundled with Rosegarden. I have the Zyn package
>>> installed and according to some pages the dssi should be
>>> in it but RG doesn't show it! What conflicts might arise
>>> if I manage to find the developer's Zyn tarball and compile
>>> it in hopes of getting ITS dssi installed as well? What's
>>> the situation with Slackware? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Maybe
>> https://slackware.uk/people/alien/sbrepos/15.0/x86_64/dssi/dssi-1.1.1-x86_64-1alien.tgz ??
>
> For future reference when you are looking for some package that isn't
> part of the Slackware installation, try https://pkgs.org/

I went that route also and installed with

# upgradepkg --install-new dssi-1.1.1-x86_64-1alien.tgz

removed and reinstalled rosegarden, rebopoted but
it's still not showing up in rosegarden, OTHERS do:

Fluidsynth dssi plugin
Less trivial synth
Trivial Synth
Xsynth dssi plugin
Simple Carplus
Simple Mono
Simple Stereo

Question:
Why would one need a 3rd party package for something as
rudimentary as a dssi kit that already exists in the distro
(15.0 BTW) anyway?

TIA

On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 16:03:56 -0400, bad sector wrote:
> I also remember vaguely that some apps need to be installed BEFORE ones
> needing them

That usually applies when compiling packages from source. Packages
installed from slackbuilds.org are usually compiled from source.

Tha packages from Alien are prebuilt for good and bad. I prefer to build
my packages from source.

Another thing to consider is that if a package has a dependency on
another package things might get messy if those packages come frome
different providers.

Myself, I only use the multilib and compat32 packages from Alien and
slackbuilds.org for other third party packages. If something is missing
from slackbuilds.org I build it from source myself and usually use
makepkg to create my own package.

regards Henrik

On 9/1/23 01:20, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2023 16:03:56 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>> I also remember vaguely that some apps need to be installed BEFORE ones
>> needing them
>
> That usually applies when compiling packages from source. Packages
> installed from slackbuilds.org are usually compiled from source.
>
> Tha packages from Alien are prebuilt for good and bad. I prefer to build
> my packages from source.
>
> Another thing to consider is that if a package has a dependency on
> another package things might get messy if those packages come frome
> different providers.
>
> Myself, I only use the multilib and compat32 packages from Alien and
> slackbuilds.org for other third party packages. If something is missing
> from slackbuilds.org I build it from source myself and usually use
> makepkg to create my own package.
>
> regards Henrik

Thanks very much. Alas all I want is guitar sessions
and while not alone 'package building' is really
terminally over my head :-)

I just resolved a major years-old issue with rosegarden
but while it felt good to be clear of it the sad fact
is that I spent many an evening busting my balls with
the tools instead of the music.

Still, if anyone can point out exactly WHY the zyn
dssi is failing to list in Rosegarden, and how to
fix it ..I'm all ears.

--
Fender have made the world's greatest electric guitars,
but they've not yet managed a Stratovarius.

On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:33:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
> if anyone can point out exactly WHY the zyn dssi is failing to
> list in Rosegarden, and how to fix it ..I'm all ears.

If you are unable to find any help here in good old
alt.os.linux.slackware you might find more readers in the web forum
https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/

If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and not many
new users find their ways to here. I really prefer usenet news to web
forums, but there is a lot more traffic at linuxquestions.

regards Henrik

On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 04:55:13 -0000 (UTC),
Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:

> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and
> not many new users find their ways to here. I really prefer
> usenet news to web forums, but there is a lot more traffic at
> linuxquestions.

+1

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

On 9/5/23 00:55, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:33:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>> if anyone can point out exactly WHY the zyn dssi is failing to
>> list in Rosegarden, and how to fix it ..I'm all ears.
>
> If you are unable to find any help here in good old
> alt.os.linux.slackware you might find more readers in the web forum
> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/
>
> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and not many
> new users find their ways to here. I really prefer usenet news to web
> forums, but there is a lot more traffic at linuxquestions.
>
> regards Henrik

I have this thing against ads

but I'll think about dropping a link in there ..to here

On 06/09/2023 20:34, bad sector wrote:
> On 9/5/23 00:55, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:33:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>>> if anyone can point out exactly WHY the zyn dssi is failing to
>>> list in Rosegarden, and how to fix it  ..I'm all ears.
>>
>> If you are unable to find any help here in good old
>> alt.os.linux.slackware you might find more readers in the web forum
>> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/
>>
>> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and not many
>> new users find their ways to here. I really prefer usenet news to web
>> forums, but there is a lot more traffic at linuxquestions.
>>
>> regards Henrik
>
>
> I have this thing against ads
>

So do I - it's called an adblocker and works a treat. UBlock Origin, if
you are interested.

On 9/6/23 20:06, David Robley wrote:
> On 06/09/2023 20:34, bad sector wrote:
>> On 9/5/23 00:55, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
>>> On Fri, 01 Sep 2023 07:33:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>>>> if anyone can point out exactly WHY the zyn dssi is failing to
>>>> list in Rosegarden, and how to fix it  ..I'm all ears.
>>>
>>> If you are unable to find any help here in good old
>>> alt.os.linux.slackware you might find more readers in the web forum
>>> https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/
>>>
>>> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and not many
>>> new users find their ways to here. I really prefer usenet news to web
>>> forums, but there is a lot more traffic at linuxquestions.
>>>
>>> regards Henrik
>>
>>
>> I have this thing against ads
>>
>
> So do I - it's called an adblocker and works a treat. UBlock Origin, if
> you are interested.

but then I go to the weather site and it masks the view if I block their ads

I'd like to see a short row of toggle buttons ending the otherwise
quintessential full menu-bar

Add-Block (on-off)
Visibility (open-louveredstealth-shuttered-dark-blackhole)
DRM-movies (on-off)

On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:04:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
> I have this thing against ads

Fortunately, there are no ads at linuxquestions.org.

regards Henrik

On 08/09/2023 02:54, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:04:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>> I have this thing against ads
>
> Fortunately, there are no ads at linuxquestions.org.
>
> regards Henrik

I respectfully disagree; perhaps you have an adblocker also. To quote
from the main page before login:

"You are currently viewing LQ as a guest. By joining our community you
will have the ability to post topics, receive our newsletter, use the
advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many other special
features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our
community today!

Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is
completely disabled once you log in."

On Fri, 08 Sep 2023 08:40:47 +0930, David Robley wrote:
> Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is
> completely disabled once you log in."

Yes, you are right. When I tried to log out I got a noticable number of
ads.

regards Henrik

On 9/7/23 13:24, Henrik Carlqvist wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Sep 2023 07:04:51 -0400, bad sector wrote:
>> I have this thing against ads
>
> Fortunately, there are no ads at linuxquestions.org.
>
> regards Henrik

I actually don't have THAT big a problem with ads, even raised to google
the possibility of ads-preferences, a direction in which amazon is
drifting. The last months I've been particularly interested in diesel
engines, parts, and cheap work gloves so I would have looked at any that
cought my eye. What I do NOT want to be bombarded with are "meet lonely
seniors in your home town" where I happen to know everyone :-)

On 9/5/23 12:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 04:55:13 -0000 (UTC),
> Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
>
>> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users and
>> not many new users find their ways to here. I really prefer
>> usenet news to web forums, but there is a lot more traffic at
>> linuxquestions.
>
> +1

I appreciate the technically faultless advice from you as well as from
Henrik; I am a member of many web-based forums, may the force be with
you both. Unfortunately or fortunately two factors are shaping my
associated behavior these last-minute autumn days, the first one is that
I barely have time to muck with music, the second one is that precisely
because usenet is under relentless attack by the race of googlegoons
that I try to prioritize it :-)

--
Saturdays are henceforth Gentoo days, installation under way.

On Sat, 23 Sep 2023 06:19:39 -0400,
bad sector <forgetski@invalid.net> wrote:
> On 9/5/23 12:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
> > On Tue, 5 Sep 2023 04:55:13 -0000 (UTC),
> > Henrik Carlqvist <Henrik.Carlqvist@deadspam.com> wrote:
> >
> >> If is sad that usenet news has lost many of its old users
> >> and not many new users find their ways to here. I really
> >> prefer usenet news to web forums, but there is a lot more
> >> traffic at linuxquestions.
> >
> > +1
>
> I appreciate the technically faultless advice from you as well
> as from Henrik; I am a member of many web-based forums, may the
> force be with you both. Unfortunately or fortunately two
> factors are shaping my associated behavior these last-minute
> autumn days, the first one is that I barely have time to muck
> with music, the second one is that precisely because usenet is
> under relentless attack by the race of googlegoons that I try
> to prioritize it :-)

You're welcome (I think?). But technically, I didn't really give
any advice, I was just echoing Henrik's preference for Usenet.

--
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA