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* Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
|`* Re: Gaming fans bewareQuadibloc
| `- Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|+* Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|| +- Re: Gaming fans bewareBGB
|| `- Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
|`* Re: Gaming fans bewareDavid Brown
| `* Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
|  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
|   `* Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
|    +* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|    |`* Re: Gaming fans bewareBranimir Maksimovic
|    | `* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|    |  `- Re: Gaming fans bewareDavid Brown
|    `- Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareMichael S
|`* Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
| `* Re: Gaming fans bewareMichael S
|  +- Re: Gaming fans bewareGeorge Neuner
|  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
|   `* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|    +* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|    |+* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|    ||+* Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
|    |||+* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|    ||||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareDavid Brown
|    |||| `- Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|    |||+- Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
|    |||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|    ||| `* Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
|    |||  +- Re: Gaming fans bewarepec...@gmail.com
|    |||  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareMichael S
|    |||   `* Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
|    |||    `* Re: Gaming fans bewareMichael S
|    |||     +* Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
|    |||     |`* IPCC computer models [was: Gaming fans beware]EricP
|    |||     | `- Re: IPCC computer modelsTim Rentsch
|    |||     `* Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
|    |||      `* Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|    |||       `- Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|    ||+* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|    |||`- Re: Gaming fans bewareGeorge Neuner
|    ||+- Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|    ||`- Re: Gaming fans bewareDavid Brown
|    |`- Re: Gaming fans bewareEricP
|    +* Re: Gaming fans bewarepec...@gmail.com
|    |`* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|    | `* Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|    |  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|    |   `- Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|    `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
|     `* Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|      `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
|       `* Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|        +* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|        |`- Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|        `- Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareTorbjorn Lindgren
|`- Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|`* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
| `* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareMichael S
|   +* Re: Gaming fans bewareJohn Dallman
|   |`* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
|   | +* Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|   | |`* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
|   | | +- Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|   | | +* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | |+- Re: Gaming fans bewareStefan Monnier
|   | | |`* Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|   | | | +* Re: Gaming fans bewareIvan Godard
|   | | | |+* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|   | | | ||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|   | | | || `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
|   | | | ||  `- Re: Gaming fans bewareBrett
|   | | | |+* Re: Gaming fans bewareGeorge Neuner
|   | | | ||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|   | | | || +* Re: Gaming fans bewareGeorge Neuner
|   | | | || |+* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | | || ||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|   | | | || || `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
|   | | | || ||  `- Re: Gaming fans bewareGeorge Neuner
|   | | | || |+- Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|   | | | || |`- Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
|   | | | || +- Re: Gaming fans bewareJohn Dallman
|   | | | || +* Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
|   | | | || |+* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | | || ||`* Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
|   | | | || || `- Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | | || |`- Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|   | | | || `* Re: Gaming fans bewarepec...@gmail.com
|   | | | ||  `* Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|   | | | ||   +- Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | | ||   `- Re: Gaming fans bewarepec...@gmail.com
|   | | | |`- Re: Gaming fans bewareAnton Ertl
|   | | | +- Re: Gaming fans bewareMitchAlsup
|   | | | `* Re: Gaming fans bewareThomas Koenig
|   | | `* Re: Gaming fans bewareStephen Fuld
|   | `- Re: Gaming fans bewareDavid Brown
|   `* Re: Gaming fans bewareTerje Mathisen
+* Re: Gaming fans bewarepec...@gmail.com
+* Re: Gaming fans bewareChris M. Thomasson
`* Re: Gaming fans bewareTim Rentsch

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From: sfu...@alumni.cmu.edu.invalid (Stephen Fuld)
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 by: Stephen Fuld - Wed, 11 Aug 2021 23:57 UTC

On 8/11/2021 3:34 PM, Brett wrote:
> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>> Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>>> Tim Rentsch <tr.17687@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/8/2021 11:15 AM, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>>>>
>>>> [...]
>>>>
>>>>>> An interesting statement, considering the massive fires now
>>>>>> burning in several states, the recent heat dome in Oregon and
>>>>>> Washington that killed over a billion marine animals in the space
>>>>>> of about a week, and the severe water shortage occurring in the
>>>>>> western states with no end in sight. Even GOP congresspersons
>>>>>> are starting to wake up to the reality that the effects of
>>>>>> climate change are already terrible and there is no sign of the
>>>>>> pace lessening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before Humans, how many fires went crazy, and crowned up in the tops
>>>>> of the trees and burned massive areas?
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like a rhetorical question. A more serious question
>>>> is, To what extent are massive fires in recent years, and also
>>>> the other heat/water events mentioned, the result of human-caused
>>>> climate change? The answer is unequivocally very much so.
>>>
>>> The burn rate is a near decade low, and 10% of what burned in the 1930?s
>>> and only a few percent of pre-industrial natural burn expected in a forest.
>>
>> In the last 20 years, the water level of Lake Mead has dropped
>> 140 feet.
>>
>> Both Lake Mead and Lake Powell are at about 33% of their capacities.
>> These levels are lower than any time in the past since their
>> respective dams were built.
>
> Here is the water use report for the lower Colorado river, Nevada uses 5%
> of lake Mead. The vast majority of that water goes to California to flood
> square miles of desert with acres feet of water to grow rice.

This is simply wrong. According to

https://apps1.cdfa.ca.gov/FertilizerResearch/docs/Rice_Production_CA.pdf

95% of CA rice production occurs in the Sacramento Valley, which is in
northern CA, and is not irrigated by the lower Colorado River.

If you look at Imperial County (the closest to the lower Colorado River,
and a big beneficiary of its water), the main crops are fruits,
vegetables and some grains like alfalfa.

https://www.icfb.net/i-v-agriculture

and

https://vric.ucdavis.edu/virtual_tour/imp.htm

--
- Stephen Fuld
(e-mail address disguised to prevent spam)

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MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, August 11, 2021 at 5:34:18 PM UTC-5, gg...@yahoo.com wrote:
>> Tim Rentsch <tr.1...@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>>> Brett <gg...@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Tim Rentsch <tr.1...@z991.linuxsc.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.t...@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/8/2021 11:15 AM, Tim Rentsch wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>> An interesting statement, considering the massive fires now
>>>>>>> burning in several states, the recent heat dome in Oregon and
>>>>>>> Washington that killed over a billion marine animals in the space
>>>>>>> of about a week, and the severe water shortage occurring in the
>>>>>>> western states with no end in sight. Even GOP congresspersons
>>>>>>> are starting to wake up to the reality that the effects of
>>>>>>> climate change are already terrible and there is no sign of the
>>>>>>> pace lessening.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Before Humans, how many fires went crazy, and crowned up in the tops
>>>>>> of the trees and burned massive areas?
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds like a rhetorical question. A more serious question
>>>>> is, To what extent are massive fires in recent years, and also
>>>>> the other heat/water events mentioned, the result of human-caused
>>>>> climate change? The answer is unequivocally very much so.
>>>>
>>>> The burn rate is a near decade low, and 10% of what burned in the 1930?s
>>>> and only a few percent of pre-industrial natural burn expected in a forest.
>>>
>>> In the last 20 years, the water level of Lake Mead has dropped
>>> 140 feet.
>>>
>>> Both Lake Mead and Lake Powell are at about 33% of their capacities.
>>> These levels are lower than any time in the past since their
>>> respective dams were built.
>> Here is the water use report for the lower Colorado river, Nevada uses 5%
>> of lake Mead. The vast majority of that water goes to California to flood
>> square miles of desert with acres feet of water to grow rice.
>>
>> https://www.usbr.gov/lc/region/g4000/weekly.pdf
>>
>> Watch me not care about millionaire truck farmers in California who might
>> be inconvenienced by this natural drought.
>>
>> Not going to conserve water so a millionaire can flood another square mile
>> with an acre foot of water to grow rice.
> <
> Would you consider conserving water so the price of rice does not double ?

No, it’s a commodity with no ability to price hike.

Arizona ran into the farm lobby objecting to Intel building a fab due to
water use.

The Arizona government responded by passing a law prioritizing water use by
the income of the jobs created.

Migrant farm workers are now at the bottom of the priority list, instead of
the top, where the billion dollar truck farming industry had put it.

I care about the middle class, not billionaires ruling peasants.

>> The press is feeding you bullshit.
>>
>> Even Southern California has 10 times more water than they “Need”.
>

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:11 UTC

On 8/4/2021 12:40 AM, George Neuner wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Aug 2021 21:17:08 -0700, "Chris M. Thomasson"
> <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I am wondering what you think about using a metal hydride to store hydrogen?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/Ytg23mDd1a4
>
> I generally am in favor of much greater use of hydrogen - provided
> that it is cleanly produced using water and electricity.
>
> Unfortunately most hydrogen currently is extracted from natural gas.
> Extracting the hydrogen results in nitrogen for fertilizer, so it's
> not wasted in that use, but natural gas supplies are limited and far
> too much of it is just being burned to generate electricity.
>
>
> Storing hydrogen in solid hydrides is an interesting idea - one I
> learned about years ago in a documentary about Stanford Ovshinsky and
> his NiMH based solutions. [Sorry don't have a link]
>
> What wasn't explained then was how the hydrogen gas could be gotten
> /out/ of solid form fast enough to supply it in bulk to an engine.
> This video about Bob Lazar answers that question at least with respect
> to his LiMH solution.
>
>
> But the problem that remains is that metals that easily form hydrides
> for the most part are toxic ... some of them /highly/ toxic. Which
> takes us back to "batteries are dirty".
>
> A hydrogen vehicle using solid hydride storage won't explode if it's
> in an accident, but it still may result in a toxic mess - one that is
> a lot harder to clean up than a simple gasoline/diesel spill.
>
> YMMV.
>

Humm... What if the unit that stored the metal hydride containers would
be encased in a sort of "black box", what was damn near indestructible?

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 by: Chris M. Thomasson - Mon, 16 Aug 2021 06:17 UTC

On 8/9/2021 2:42 AM, David Brown wrote:
> On 09/08/2021 00:05, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
>> On 8/8/2021 2:47 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>>>> Is there any way to detect absolutely _massive_ ancient fires using
>>>> geology?
>>>
>>> Could be.  BTW, I like https://xkcd.com/1732/ as a fun rendition of the
>>> data we know about past temperatures (I'd be interested in comparable
>>> renditions for CO2 levels).
>>>
>>> In any case, the explosive nature of exponential processes should make
>>> it obvious to any computer scientist that if we keep doing what we've
>>> been doing for the last couple centuries (with exponential growth in all
>>> kinds of ways) we'll sooner or later hit a major wall.  There is
>>> overwhelming evidence in various areas that the human presence on this
>>> planet is not in the "negligible" part of the curve any more, so a wall
>>> is probably not too far off.
>>
>> I can see a natural warming cycle, mixed with pollution, equaling a very
>> dangerous scenario.
>
> The irony is that air pollution is actually /limiting/ global warming
> somewhat - some of the crap we humans have pumped into the atmosphere is
> reflecting back a bit of the solar radiation.

Its funny, all of the space junk can be reflecting rays as well. So, we
not only pollute the planet, we junk up the space around our planet!

;^o

> Still, garbage does not smell sweeter by leaving it out in the sun...
>

Indeed. Its also funny to me because it reminds me of an episode of the
Simpsons where Mr. Burns tried to block out the sun.

https://youtu.be/L3LbxDZRgA4

lol!

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