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* default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
+- Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
+* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneArno Welzel
|`* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
| +* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhonePhilip Herlihy
| |`* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
| | `* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneArno Welzel
| |  `- Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
| +* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneLewis
| |`* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
| | `- Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneLewis
| `* Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneArno Welzel
|  `- Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneDale
`- Re: default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhoneThomas 'PointedEars' Lahn

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 by: Dale - Sun, 13 Mar 2022 20:30 UTC

default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone

referring to <p>

my site has a bunch ...

https://www.dalekelly.org/

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 00:54 UTC

On 3/13/2022 4:30 PM, Dale wrote:
> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>
> referring to <p>
>
> my site has a bunch ...
>
> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>

what about bootstrap?

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From: use...@arnowelzel.de (Arno Welzel)
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 by: Arno Welzel - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 14:08 UTC

Dale:

> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>
> referring to <p>
>
> my site has a bunch ...
>
> https://www.dalekelly.org/

What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 17:19 UTC

On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Dale:
>
>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>
>> referring to <p>
>>
>> my site has a bunch ...
>>
>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>
> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>
>

size

I see width a part of size

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From: thiswill...@you.com (Philip Herlihy)
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 by: Philip Herlihy - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:29 UTC

In article <t0ntea$hqp$1@dont-email.me>, dale@dalekelly.org says...
>
> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> > Dale:
> >
> >> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
> >>
> >> referring to <p>
> >>
> >> my site has a bunch ...
> >>
> >> https://www.dalekelly.org/
> >
> > What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
> >
> >
>
> size
>
> I see width a part of size

Thank you for clearing that up.

Folks - our friend may simply be an enthusiastic beginner becoming a little too
dependent on being spoon-fed. But is it not possible that he's deliberately
stringing us along? In any event, patience has its limits.

--

Phil, London

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 by: Lewis - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 18:55 UTC

In message <t0ntea$hqp$1@dont-email.me> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Dale:
>>
>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>
>>> referring to <p>
>>>
>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>
>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?

> size

That's still not an answer.

> I see width a part of size

So you want paragraphs to be wider than the screen on an iPhone? That's
a terrible idea.

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 by: Arno Welzel - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 19:36 UTC

Dale:

> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>> Dale:
>>
>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>
>>> referring to <p>
>>>
>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>
>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>
>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>>
>>
>
> size
>
> I see width a part of size

No, width is not part of size.

Example:

..myclass { width:100%; }

This defines a class "myclass" which sets an element 100% wide. And it
does not matter at all what size the text is.

If your text seems to be too small you just need to adjust font-size to
a value bigger than 1em.

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 22:37 UTC

On 3/14/2022 2:55 PM, Lewis wrote:
> In message <t0ntea$hqp$1@dont-email.me> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Dale:
>>>
>>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>>
>>>> referring to <p>
>>>>
>>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>>
>>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>
>> size
>
> That's still not an answer.
>
>> I see width a part of size
>
> So you want paragraphs to be wider than the screen on an iPhone? That's
> a terrible idea.
>

okay, that is the width of the paragraph not the size of the text in it

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 22:39 UTC

On 3/14/2022 2:29 PM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
> In article <t0ntea$hqp$1@dont-email.me>, dale@dalekelly.org says...
>>
>> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Dale:
>>>
>>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>>
>>>> referring to <p>
>>>>
>>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>>
>>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> size
>>
>> I see width a part of size
>
> Thank you for clearing that up.
>
> Folks - our friend may simply be an enthusiastic beginner becoming a little too
> dependent on being spoon-fed. But is it not possible that he's deliberately
> stringing us along? In any event, patience has its limits.
>

I've been hacking away at HTML for around 30 years

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 by: Dale - Mon, 14 Mar 2022 22:44 UTC

On 3/14/2022 3:36 PM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Dale:
>
>> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>> Dale:
>>>
>>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>>
>>>> referring to <p>
>>>>
>>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>>
>>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> size
>>
>> I see width a part of size
>
> No, width is not part of size.
>
> Example:
>
> .myclass { width:100%; }
>
> This defines a class "myclass" which sets an element 100% wide. And it
> does not matter at all what size the text is.
>
> If your text seems to be too small you just need to adjust font-size to
> a value bigger than 1em.
>
>

Thank You !!!!

got to find "em"

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 by: Lewis - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 02:31 UTC

In message <t0og2t$80p$1@dont-email.me> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
> On 3/14/2022 2:55 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message <t0ntea$hqp$1@dont-email.me> Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/14/2022 10:08 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
>>>> Dale:
>>>>
>>>>> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> referring to <p>
>>>>>
>>>>> my site has a bunch ...
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.dalekelly.org/
>>>>
>>>> What means "too small" exactly? Text size? Text width?
>>
>>> size
>>
>> That's still not an answer.
>>
>>> I see width a part of size
>>
>> So you want paragraphs to be wider than the screen on an iPhone? That's
>> a terrible idea.
>>

> okay, that is the width of the paragraph not the size of the text in it

So you are saying the font size is smaller than you want. That would
have been helpful at the beginning. However, keep in mind, that you have
no actual control over things like font size, regardless of what you set.

in head:
#v+
<meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width,initial-scale=1" />
#v-

in style:

#v+
@media screen
and (min-width: 200px)
and (max-width: 800px)
{ p: font-size: 120%
} #v-

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 by: Arno Welzel - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 08:01 UTC

Dale:

> On 3/14/2022 2:29 PM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
[...]
>> Folks - our friend may simply be an enthusiastic beginner becoming a little too
>> dependent on being spoon-fed. But is it not possible that he's deliberately
>> stringing us along? In any event, patience has its limits.
>>
>
> I've been hacking away at HTML for around 30 years

Seems you didn't learn much about CSS though in this time.

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 by: Dale - Tue, 15 Mar 2022 09:31 UTC

On 3/15/2022 4:01 AM, Arno Welzel wrote:
> Dale:
>
>> On 3/14/2022 2:29 PM, Philip Herlihy wrote:
> [...]
>>> Folks - our friend may simply be an enthusiastic beginner becoming a little too
>>> dependent on being spoon-fed. But is it not possible that he's deliberately
>>> stringing us along? In any event, patience has its limits.
>>>
>>
>> I've been hacking away at HTML for around 30 years
>
> Seems you didn't learn much about CSS though in this time.
>
>

I did admit I was a hack

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 by: Thomas 'Pointed - Tue, 22 Mar 2022 23:24 UTC

Dale amok-crossposted to 4(!) newsgroups:

No Usenet posting is that important that it needs to be posted to more
than 3 newsgroups (especially without Followup-To). If World War Ⅲ is
going to be announced, it will be announced in news.announce.important.

(after Peter da Silva)

> default HTML paragraph styles are too small on iPhone
>
> referring to <p>
>
> my site has a bunch ...
>
> https://www.dalekelly.org/

Probably the font size is not too small per se, but you are just looking at
a zoomed-out version because you have not done any mobile optimization of
your site yet. Use Google Webmaster Tools for further advice.

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