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* What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?Ant
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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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Ant wrote:
Adrian Tuddenham <adrian@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I have an old 15" PowerBook G4 (1 Ghz) with its updated Mac OS v10.2.8
and v9. What are some cool useful apps to use in them these days? I know
online apps will be useless since they are very old. Hopefulyl, I can
still download something in them. If not, then I can use my USB1 flash
(stick/drive)s and LAN. I tried Linux (tried various PowerPC
distributions) in it, but it was just too slow, could never get its wifi
to work, and frustrating compared to PCs. :(

What are some old cool Mac OS programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8? Thank
you for reading and hopefully answering. :)

By far the most useful collection of programs on OS8.6  and OS9 is
"Claris Works".  I still run my entire business on CW 4.0 and use it for
everything in the office.

Wow, how is its compatbility with the newer MS Office documents?

CW 4.x/AWKS 4.0v4 (forgot to tell that CW changed name with update to v.4.0v4) is somewhat compatible with the first MSOffice X (ver. 10.x) in .doc., .xls, .rtf and a few other MS file types, but it isnot compatible with .docx and .rtfd files. - Only common .doc, .rtf and .xls files from newer MSO can be read and edited in CW 4.x/AWKS 4.x.

Other useful apps for OS 9.x / OS X 10.2.x could be Claris Filemaker 2.1v3 or 3.0v1 if you can find a copy of one of these.

Of craphics apps Adobe Photoshop 3.0.5 still are among the better Adobe apps. Same is Macromedia Freehand v.5.5 (v5.5 though only usable on OS X 10.0.x and 10.1.x).

If you would like to work with video, Macromedia Director 7 is still one of the best for OS 7.5.3 up to OS X 10.0.x. Director can even be used as a picture editor by double-clicking one a frame, the frame will open into full-size and can be edited and saved as either .tiff or .jpg. - This feature was removed in the last Macromedia Director 8.:-(

Repair and maintanace tools... Here Norton Works 6.x is a (nearly) 'must-have' tool for OS 8.x, 9.x, 10.0.x and 10.1.x. NU v6.5 is also usable, but it reqires at least OS 9.0.4, but then also works up to and including OS X 10.3.9. - NOTE! DONOT use NU on OS X 10.4.x or newer systems!!!

Also Alsoft DiskWarrior 1.5 or 2.x can be used on both OS 8.6 up to and including OS X 10.2.x. Ver. 1.x can even be run from a floppy drive. Ver. 2.x requires a CD/DVD drive.

And not to forget MacLink Plus 9.x or 10.x. It can convert to/from about 200-300 different file types...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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Thanks. Ooh, even mac OSes like Leopard!

Yep, any Mac software older than 10 years is considered "abandonware"
and uploaded to that very useful resource website for us vintage Mac
fans.

I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.
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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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In article <T5qdnZsm8tkt8HDDnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
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I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.

it never did.


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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <T5qdnZsm8tkt8HDDnZ2dnUU7-dOdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:


I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.

it never did.

Oh, only Mac OS X Jaguar v10.2.8? :(
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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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On 2020-06-20 02:00:16 +0000, Ant said:
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Thanks. Ooh, even mac OSes like Leopard!

Yep, any Mac software older than 10 years is considered "abandonware"
and uploaded to that very useful resource website for us vintage Mac
fans.

I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.

You will need separate OS 9 and OS X install discs and do one at a time. There's also a bit of a hiccup in that one of them (I can't remember off the top of my head which one it is) needs to be on the hard drive's first partition to be able to be seen for booting.




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In article <rck4dk$7ft$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Your Name
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 There's also a bit of a hiccup in that one of them (I can't
remember off the top of my head which one it is) needs to be on the
hard drive's first partition to be able to be seen for booting.

no.


Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid> wrote:

Adrian Tuddenham wrote:
By far the most useful collection of programs on OS8.6  and OS9 is
"Claris Works".  I still run my entire business on CW 4.0 and use it for
everything in the office.

And you can even upgrade with full compatibility to "ClarisWorks 5.x
Office".

I tried it but there was too much eye-candy, so I went back to CW4 and
ditched CW5.  I seem to remember it also automatically installed
unwanted things in the OS that I had to track down and delete

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Ant wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.

it never did.

Oh, only Mac OS X Jaguar v10.2.8? :(

The Mac OS X 10.4.1 PPC only CD version (4x CD) also included Mac OS 9.1 with Finder ver. 9.3. I do still have this CD set standing on the bookshelf. The OS 9 Finder ver. 9.2 is needed for the System Update to update classic Mac OS 9.1 to ver. 9.2.2.

For the Intel only version of OS X 10.4.x on DVD it's true - no OS 9. - The same for the Universal Binary (UB) ver. of OS X 10.4.x on DVD - no OS 9.x.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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Ant wrote:
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I am going to try installing a new Leopard into this old PB G4. I hope it
still comes with Mac OS 9.

it never did.

Oh, only Mac OS X Jaguar v10.2.8? :(

The Mac OS X 10.4.1 PPC only CD version (4x CD) also included Mac OS 9.1 with Finder ver. 9.2. I do still have this CD set standing on the bookshelf. The OS 9 Finder ver. 9.2 is needed for the System Update to update classic Mac OS 9.1 to ver. 9.2.2.

For the Intel only version of OS X 10.4.x on DVD it's true - no OS 9. - The same for the Universal Binary (UB) ver. of OS X 10.4.x on DVD - no OS 9.x.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Subject: Re: What are some old cool programs for Mac OS v9 & X v10.2.8?
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In article <rcl12p$9ul$1@solani.org>, ErikRS <mac-dane@is.invalid>
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The Mac OS X 10.4.1 PPC only CD version (4x CD) also included Mac OS 9.1
with Finder ver. 9.3.

no it didn't.


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