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* 5.5 againVMSgenerations working group
+- Re: 5.5 againHenry Crun
+* Re: 5.5 againSteven Schweda
|`* Re: 5.5 againArne Vajhøj
| `* Re: 5.5 againSteven Schweda
|  `* Re: 5.5 againVMSgenerations working group
|   +- Re: 5.5 againArne Vajhøj
|   +- Re: 5.5 againSimon Clubley
|   `- Re: 5.5 againSteven Schweda
`- Re: 5.5 again <<< errataGérard Calliet

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 by: VMSgenerations worki - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:27 UTC

Hello,

Perhaps someone remembers about vms 5.5 .

I have a problem on ucx (ucx 4.1) (on simh 4.0)

Impossible to enable ftp service. I tried a lot of things (recreatinf
from @ucx$config, recreating all ucx*.dat, for example, or recreating
the user ucx$ftp, doing an autogen...). ucx itself works fine, but ftp
server.

What I see:

$ ucx ena serv ftp
%UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
-UCX-E-BADVALUE, Value Service User_name is incorrect
-RMS-E-RNF, record not found
%UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
-RMS-E-RNF, record not found

$ mc authorize show ucx$ftp

Username: UCX$FTP Owner: UCX$FTP
Account: UCX$FTP UIC: [375,1]
([UCX$AUX,UCX$FTP])
CLI: DCL Tables: DCLTABLES
Default: SYS$SYSDEVICE:[UCX$FTP]
LGICMD: LOGIN
Flags: Restricted
Primary days: Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri
Secondary days: Sat Sun
Primary 000000000011111111112222 Secondary 000000000011111111112222
Day Hours 012345678901234567890123 Day Hours 012345678901234567890123
Network: ##### Full access ###### ##### Full access ######
Batch: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Local: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Dialup: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Remote: ----- No access ------ ----- No access ------
Expiration: (none) Pwdminimum: 6 Login Fails: 0
Pwdlifetime: 90 00:00 Pwdchange: (pre-expired)
Last Login: (none) (interactive), (none)
(non-interactive)
Maxjobs: 0 Fillm: 50 Bytlm: 108000
Maxacctjobs: 0 Shrfillm: 0 Pbytlm: 0
Maxdetach: 0 BIOlm: 96 JTquota: 1024
Prclm: 2 DIOlm: 96 WSdef: 350
Prio: 8 ASTlm: 250 WSquo: 512
Queprio: 0 TQElm: 15 WSextent: 512
CPU: (none) Enqlm: 100 Pgflquo: 10240
Authorized Privileges:
TMPMBX NETMBX
Default Privileges:
TMPMBX NETMBX

I know, I know: I would be on 8.4 and x86. Not today, alas.

Thanks for all ideas.

Gérard Calliet

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Re: 5.5 again

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 by: Henry Crun - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 12:02 UTC

On 18/01/2022 11:27, VMSgenerations working group wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Perhaps someone remembers about vms 5.5 .
>
> I have a problem on ucx (ucx 4.1) (on simh 4.0)
>
> Impossible to enable ftp service. I tried a lot of things (recreatinf from @ucx$config, recreating all ucx*.dat, for
> example, or recreating the user ucx$ftp, doing an autogen...). ucx itself works fine, but ftp server.
>
> What I see:
>
>
> $ ucx ena serv ftp
> %UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
> -UCX-E-BADVALUE, Value Service User_name is incorrect
> -RMS-E-RNF, record not found
> %UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
> -RMS-E-RNF, record not found
>
>
> $ mc authorize show ucx$ftp
>
> Username: UCX$FTP                          Owner:  UCX$FTP
> Account:  UCX$FTP                          UIC:    [375,1] ([UCX$AUX,UCX$FTP])
> CLI:      DCL                              Tables: DCLTABLES
> Default:  SYS$SYSDEVICE:[UCX$FTP]
> LGICMD:   LOGIN
> Flags:  Restricted
> Primary days:   Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri
> Secondary days:                     Sat Sun
> Primary   000000000011111111112222  Secondary 000000000011111111112222
> Day Hours 012345678901234567890123  Day Hours 012345678901234567890123
> Network:  ##### Full access ######            ##### Full access ######
> Batch:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
> Local:    -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
> Dialup:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
> Remote:   -----  No access  ------            -----  No access  ------
> Expiration:            (none)    Pwdminimum:  6   Login Fails:     0
> Pwdlifetime:         90 00:00    Pwdchange:      (pre-expired)
> Last Login:            (none) (interactive),            (none) (non-interactive)
> Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:        50  Bytlm:       108000
> Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0
> Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:        96  JTquota:       1024
> Prclm:           2  DIOlm:        96  WSdef:          350
> Prio:            8  ASTlm:       250  WSquo:          512
> Queprio:         0  TQElm:        15  WSextent:       512
> CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:       100  Pgflquo:      10240
> Authorized Privileges:
>   TMPMBX NETMBX
> Default Privileges:
>   TMPMBX NETMBX
>
> I know, I know: I would be on 8.4 and x86. Not today, alas.
>
> Thanks for all ideas.
>
> Gérard Calliet
>
Go to UCX$CONFIG (IIRC it's in SYS$MANAGER)
and enable FTP server (there's a menu, the details currently escape me)
and then start FTP server (same menu.

HTH.

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Re: 5.5 again

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> Perhaps someone remembers about vms 5.5 .

What I remember is that V5.5-2 was much better than earlier versions.

> %UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
> -UCX-E-BADVALUE, Value Service User_name is incorrect
> -RMS-E-RNF, record not found

ucx show service /full ftp

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 14:56 UTC

On 1/18/2022 9:45 AM, Steven Schweda wrote:
>> Perhaps someone remembers about vms 5.5 .
>
> What I remember is that V5.5-2 was much better than earlier versions.

I think everyone was running 5.5-2 (or probably 5.5-2H4 but H4 should
not be needed with simh).

Arne

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> I think everyone was running 5.5-2 [...]

With my weak psychic powers, I wouldn't try to guess what everyone
was doing. I try to read what someone writes. In a case like this,
actual output from a command like, say,

ucx show version

could be worth more than "vms 5.5" and/or "ucx 4.1".

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 by: VMSgenerations worki - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 18:39 UTC

Thanks for all your comments. Just a little more information:

What I see on ucx$config (after enabling ftp service):

1 - BIND Disabled
2 - BOOTP Disabled
3 - TFTP Disabled
4 - FTP Enabled
5 - LPR/LPD Disabled
6 - NFS Disabled
7 - PC-NFS Disabled
8 - PORTMAPPER Disabled
9 - TELNET/RLOGIN Enabled
10 - SNMP Disabled
11 - NTP Disabled
12 - METRIC Disabled
13 - POP Disabled
14 - FINGER Disabled

A - Configure options 1 - 14
[E] - Exit menu

Enter configuration option:

and what I see just after that:

$ ucx sho version

Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V4.1
on a VAXserver 3900 Series running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4

$ ucx sho serv ftp /full

Service: FTP
State: Disabled
Port: 21 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
User_name: not defined Process: UCX$FTPD
$ $ ucx set service ftp/user=ucx$ftp
$ $ ucx sho serv ftp /full

Service: FTP
State: Disabled
Port: 21 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
User_name: not defined Process: UCX$FTPD
$ $ ucx ena serv ftp
%UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
-UCX-E-BADVALUE, Value Service User_name is incorrect
-RMS-E-RNF, record not found
%UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
-RMS-E-RNF, record not found
$ $

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 by: Arne Vajhøj - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:06 UTC

On 1/18/2022 1:39 PM, VMSgenerations working group wrote:
> Thanks for all your comments. Just a little more information:

>                  4  -  FTP            Enabled

> $ ucx sho version
>
>   Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V4.1
>   on a VAXserver 3900 Series running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4

H4

:-)

> $ ucx sho serv ftp /full
>
> Service: FTP
>                            State:     Disabled
> Port:               21     Protocol:  TCP             Address:  0.0.0.0
>                            User_name: not defined     Process:  UCX$FTPD
> $
> $ ucx set service ftp/user=ucx$ftp
> $
> $ ucx sho serv ftp /full
>
> Service: FTP
>                            State:     Disabled
> Port:               21     Protocol:  TCP             Address:  0.0.0.0
>                            User_name: not defined     Process:  UCX$FTPD
> $
> $ ucx ena serv ftp
> %UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
> -UCX-E-BADVALUE, Value Service User_name is incorrect
> -RMS-E-RNF, record not found
> %UCX-E-STARTERROR, Error starting FTP service
> -RMS-E-RNF, record not found

Have you tried disabling and reenabling the service in UCX@CONFIG?

Arne

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On 2022-01-18, VMSgenerations working group <working.group@vmsgenerations.fr> wrote:
>
> $ ucx sho version
>
> Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V4.1
> on a VAXserver 3900 Series running OpenVMS V5.5-2H4
>
> $ ucx sho serv ftp /full
>
> Service: FTP
> State: Disabled
> Port: 21 Protocol: TCP Address: 0.0.0.0
> User_name: not defined Process: UCX$FTPD
> $
> $ ucx set service ftp/user=ucx$ftp
> $

Is there a "ucx set config service ftp/user=ucx$ftp" variant or similar
for that version of UCX ?

The key bit is the "set config" or similar. Maybe a /permanent qualifier ?

IOW, try looking for something similar to DECnet's dynamic and permanent
database commands.

Simon.

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Re: 5.5 again

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 by: Steven Schweda - Tue, 18 Jan 2022 19:38 UTC

> User_name: not defined Process: UCX$FTPD

I'd say that it's time to delete that service (ucx set noservice),
and try again to define it (sys$manager:ucx$config.com).

ucx help set service

More modern TCPIP HELP says things like:

/USER_NAME

/USER_NAME=vms_user_account

Required if defining a new service entry; optional if modifying
an existing service.

So, how you get a service defined with "User_name: not defined" is
unclear to me. Hence, I'd delete it, and start again. But that lack of
USER_NAME would seem to explain your "Service User_name is incorrect"
error message.

Re: 5.5 again <<< errata

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 by: Gérard Calliet - Thu, 20 Jan 2022 17:45 UTC

Hello,

Just a precision. This thread about ucx ftp issue is on my name.

I'm member of VMSgenerations (france), and they ask me to use my usenet
access to write their messages. (vmsgenerations working group).

I forgot for this personal thread to change the names.

I hope they'll not beat me.

And thanks for all the answers.

Gérard Calliet

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