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* Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Ant
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|`* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Ant
| `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...mike
|  `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Jolly Roger
|   `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...mike
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|     |      `- Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Jolly Roger
|     `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Bob Campbell
|      `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...sms
|       `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...NewsKrawler
|        `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Jolly Roger
|         `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...cris
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|          `- Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Gronk
`* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Andy Burnelli
 `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Alan
  `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...cris
   +* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Alan
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   `* Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...Alan
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Re: Updated iOS & iPadOS (1/23/2023)...

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 by: mike - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:15 UTC

On 25-01-2023 08:51 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> your only reason

You can weasel all you want but it doesn't change that you do not know how
Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release if you can't answer this question.

What is the difference between an iOS/macOS update & an iOS/macOS upgrade?

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:20 UTC

On 25/01/2023 05:27, Jolly Roger wrote:

> ignore the *fact* that Apple is providing security updates to
> older devices, and instead wants everyone to believe the shitty
> implication that supposedly no other platform vendors have numerous and
> severe security vulnerabilities.

It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.

All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.

Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.

That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.

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 by: mike - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:25 UTC

On 25-01-2023 05:23 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> Do you know why that's irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just released
> security updates for older devices?

How did you get that all wrong again?

This is like the fifth time you've shown you don't understand how Apple
patches macOS or iOS for security vulnerabilities.

You can weasel all you want but it doesn't change that you do not know how
Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release if you can't answer this question.

What is the difference between an iOS/macOS update & an iOS/macOS upgrade?

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 by: sms - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:26 UTC

On 1/24/2023 4:20 PM, cris wrote:

<snip>

> Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
> patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
> serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.

Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.
This doesn't make the older iOS releases unusable, just a little more
risky, but they are patching the most serious issues.

> That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.

“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity” ― Hanlon's Razor

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 by: Gronk - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:29 UTC

cris wrote:

> On 25/01/2023 05:27, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> ignore the *fact* that Apple is providing security updates to
>> older devices, and instead wants everyone to believe the shitty
>> implication that supposedly no other platform vendors have numerous and
>> severe security vulnerabilities.
>
> It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
> exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.
>
> All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.
>
> Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
> patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
> serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.
>
> That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.

You should give up on telling them what they don't understand.

None of them understand the first thing about how Apple updates work.
They won't even read the links that you already gave them many times.

They _want_ to remain stupid.
You can't fix stupid.

They claim to be Apple lovers and yet they know nothing about Apple.

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 00:34 UTC

On 24/01/2023 17:26, sms wrote:

> Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
> versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.

Exactly my point.

I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?

What Apple did to releases way back to iOS 12 is all over the news today.
The whole world is aware of what happened, except this Jolly Roger bloke.

Apple only fixes all the bugs they know about in the latest release.
Apple says so themselves, but this Jolly Roger bloke won't read the links.

Anything else is up to Apple's discretion where this bug is actively
exploited, and extremely serious - so Apple decided to patch older releases
with JUST this ONE bug (and not all the many others in this latest patch).

That any company, Apple or Google or Microsoft, decides to patch the most
serious and most actively exploited bugs, does not mean that Apple is
patching all the bugs in any iOS release below iOS 16.

That is what that Jolly Roger bloke doesn't understand.

Why can't he understand it?
I don't know.

But he can't.
Why not?

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 by: sms - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 01:07 UTC

On 1/24/2023 4:34 PM, cris wrote:
> On 24/01/2023 17:26, sms wrote:
>
>> Apple has warned that not all issues are being addressed in pre-iOS 16
>> versions and that users should be on iOS 16 if their device supports it.
>
> Exactly my point.
>
> I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
> Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?

It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.

Also consider using Reddit for discussions. While Reddit is a pain in
some ways, like the advertising, at least it has some gentle moderation
so the kind of disruptive behavior you see on Usenet would not be tolerated.

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 02:49 UTC

On 24/01/2023 21:37, sms wrote:

>> I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
>> Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?
>
> It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
> annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
> is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.

I don't think Jolly Roger knew and I don't think he has learned either.
He doesn't understand what you understand about how Apple patches iOS.

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 11:56 UTC

On 24/01/2023 06:48, Alan wrote:

>>> You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
>>> https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
>>
>> They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
>
> "Known", huh?
>
> List ONE.

Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web

And please read the whole thread before asking what's already answered.

The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older releases.
Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known, huh?" bugs fixed.

That's Apple's policy whether you know Apple's policy or not.
You really need to get out more often and read the news about Apple.

See my previous post in this thread to Jolly Roger which is included below.

It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.

All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.

Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.

That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.

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 by: sms - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:28 UTC

On 1/24/2023 6:49 PM, cris wrote:
> On 24/01/2023 21:37, sms wrote:
>
>>> I know how Apple patches releases as it has been in the news for months.
>>> Why doesn't this Jolly Roger bloke know how Apple patches releases?
>>
>> It's likely that he actually does know, he's just being obstinate to
>> annoy you, like many of the trolls in this newsgroup do. The best advice
>> is judicious use of your news reader's filter capability.
>
> I don't think Jolly Roger knew and I don't think he has learned either.
> He doesn't understand what you understand about how Apple patches iOS.

The reality is that most of the trolls actually do understand. They read
the citations and look at the references but they don't appreciate being
proven wrong so they do what they do. The important thing is that they
actually are being educated.

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 by: nospam - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 16:41 UTC

In article <tqrlbl$o0bo$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> The reality is that most of the trolls actually do understand. They read
> the citations and look at the references but they don't appreciate being
> proven wrong so they do what they do.

that describes you.

> The important thing is that they
> actually are being educated.

in your case, that doesn't happen.

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 by: Alan - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:19 UTC

On 2023-01-25 03:56, cris wrote:
> On 24/01/2023 06:48, Alan wrote:
>
>>>> You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
>>>> https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
>>>
>>> They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
>>
>> "Known", huh?
>>
>> List ONE.
>
> Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
> https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
> https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
> https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/web
>
> And please read the whole thread before asking what's already answered.
>
> The "List ONE" "Known, huh?" bug that was fixed was CVE-2022-42856.
> All the rest of the "Known, huh?" bugs were NOT fixed in older releases.
> Only Apple's latest release (iOS 16) gets all "Known, huh?" bugs fixed.
>
> That's Apple's policy whether you know Apple's policy or not.
> You really need to get out more often and read the news about Apple.
>
> See my previous post in this thread to Jolly Roger which is included below.
>
> It's all over the news recently that Apple is forced to patch the actively
> exploited bugs which are wiping out the older iOS devices left and right.
>
> All these articles, none of which you've read, say the same thing.
>
> Apple is only patching that one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug but Apple is NOT
> patching anything other than that one very actively exploited and very
> serious wide open hole in older iOS releases that makes them unusable.
>
> That you don't know the difference is a problem that YOU need to fix.

With all that jabber, you still didn't actually list a KNOWN bug that
Apple is not fixing....

....Arlen.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:19 UTC

On 2023-01-25, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
> On 25-01-2023 05:23 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Do you know why that's irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just released
>> security updates for older devices?
>
> How did you get that all wrong again?

I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
iOS 12. And that pisses you off to no end, which is why you are here
trolling.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 17:21 UTC

On 2023-01-25, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-01-25 03:56, cris wrote:
>> On 24/01/2023 06:48, Alan wrote:
>>
>>>>> You forgot v12.5.7 for the older iDevices. ;)
>>>>> https://support.apple.com/kb/HT213597
>>>>
>>>> They only fixed _one_ of the huge number of bugs that are known.
>>>
>>> "Known", huh?
>>>
>>> List ONE.
>>
>> Please read the news about Apple before asking others to read it to you.
>
> (wall fo text that doesn't list a single bug not being fixed
> rightfully omitted)
>
> With all that jabber, you still didn't actually list a KNOWN bug that
> Apple is not fixing....
>
>
> ...Arlen.

He didn't because he can't.
He's only here to troll.

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 18:44 UTC

On 25/01/2023 17:41, nospam wrote:

>> The important thing is that they
>> actually are being educated.
>
> in your case, that doesn't happen.

I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not understand
how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though you told them.

The Apple written policy is an upgrade goes from iOS 15.something to iOS
16.something while an update is from 15.something to 15.something-bigger.

Using example numbers, an update is iOS 15.6 to iOS 15.7 or going from iOS
15.7.2 to iOS 15.7.3. An example update is from iOS 15.7.2 to iOS 16.3.

I think nospam understands that but Jolly Roger definitely does not
understand that but what is much more important that Jolly Roger & nospam
don't understand is how many of the known fixed bugs Apple puts into any of
those updates and upgrades.

Based on Apple's written policy on how they update iOS (and macOS), what
Apple does is build a fix to any bug they know of that they want to put in
any release they want to (just like Microsoft and Google do when the bug is
so bad they have to go back and fix that one bad bug in older devices), but
that isn't a full hotfix update release - it's only a tiny portion of one.

Even Google and Microsoft will go back eight or more years for a single bug
when they have to - just like Apple does when Apple has to do the same.

But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for now).
https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a

You can tell that Jolly Roger and nospam don't understand Apple's policy
because they think Apple patched every bug that Apple knows about in iOS 12
when all Apple did was patch the one worst CVE-2022-42856 bug in iOS 12.

Same with iOS 15 although Apple added a couple more fixed bugs to the mix.

Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam understand the distinction that you
understand, which is that one bug or one subset is not the full set.

That full patch only goes into the latest release, which is iOS 16 today.
https://hothardware.com/news/apple-admits-only-fully-patches-security-flaws-in-latest-os-releases
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-security-update-policy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/

As you said though, it could be that Jolly Roger and nospam don't want to
understand how Apple patches releases, or it could be they don't understand
which is what I think it is.

Either way, nothing they've said shows an understanding of what Apple does.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 20:44 UTC

On 2023-01-25, cris <cris@removespam.me.com> wrote:
> On 25/01/2023 17:41, nospam wrote:
>
>>> The important thing is that they actually are being educated.
>>
>> in your case, that doesn't happen.
>
> I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not
> understand how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though
> you told them.
>
> The Apple written policy is an upgrade goes from iOS 15.something to
> iOS 16.something while an update is from 15.something to
> 15.something-bigger.
>
> Using example numbers, an update is iOS 15.6 to iOS 15.7 or going from
> iOS 15.7.2 to iOS 15.7.3. An example update is from iOS 15.7.2 to iOS
> 16.3.
>
> I think nospam understands that but Jolly Roger definitely does not
> understand that

Wrong. Anyone with a clue understands that. And only an enormous idiot
would suggest that something as trivial as a software versioning scheme
isn't understood by even computing novices.

> But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
> Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for
> now).
> https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a

Wrong yet again. We both understand better than you. And we see right
through your little lame troll, where you see a post where Apple made
updates to older devices and think to yourself, "OOOH! OOOH! Now's my
chance! I'll go ahead and make a post claiming Apple doesn't /really/ do
updates to older devices in this thread to disrupt it!!! #IAmVerySmart!
#TrollBois-R-Us!"

> Either way, nothing they've said shows an understanding of what Apple
> does.

Projection from the troll farm. #MOO

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: cris - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 21:38 UTC

On 25/01/2023 17:14, Jolly Roger wrote:

>> But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
>> Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for
>> now).
>> https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
>
> Wrong yet again.

There's no sense continuing with you.

Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
*FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.

By that same measure, Google *FULLY PATCHED* Android from a decade ago.
Likewise with Microsoft.

What Jolly Roger and nospam can't understand is that patching one critical
vulnerability is not the same thing as patching all that Apple knows about.

Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam can understand Apple only fully patches the
current release, which at this point in time is iOS 16 and only iOS 16.
https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/

There's no sense in even continuing because both of them can't understand
that Apple doesn't update releases only in the way they wish Apple did.

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 by: sms - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:46 UTC

On 1/25/2023 10:44 AM, cris wrote:

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> I read the responses and it's clear Jolly Roger & nospam do not understand
> how Apple patches the iOS (or macOS) release, even though you told them.

It's not _me_ telling them, it's _Apple_ telling them (and everyone).

Of course they really do understand. They like making snide remarks and
insulting people, but when you ignore that behavior, you realize that
they are learning.

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 by: sms - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:48 UTC

On 1/25/2023 1:38 PM, cris wrote:

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> Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
> vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
> *FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.
>
> By that same measure, Google *FULLY PATCHED* Android from a decade ago.
> Likewise with Microsoft.
>
> What Jolly Roger and nospam can't understand is that patching one critical
> vulnerability is not the same thing as patching all that Apple knows about.
>
> Neither Jolly Roger nor nospam can understand Apple only fully patches the
> current release, which at this point in time is iOS 16 and only iOS 16.
> https://support.apple.com/guide/deployment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a/
>
> There's no sense in even continuing because both of them can't understand
> that Apple doesn't update releases only in the way they wish Apple did.

They understand all of what you insist that they don't understand. They
just enjoy annoying you.

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and
beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain (or so some say)

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 by: mike - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 22:54 UTC

On 25-01-2023 13:49 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> How did you get that all wrong again?
>
> I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
> iOS 12.

How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?

Only after you can answer this question correct, will you understand.

Did Apple give iOS 12 the full patch of all critical security issues
that Apple knows are in iOS 12 (like Apple did with iOS 16 this week)?

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 by: nospam - Wed, 25 Jan 2023 23:52 UTC

In article <tqsbfk$rl3v$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> Of course they really do understand.

true. it's the trolls and sock puppets who fail to understand, or on
the off chance they do, they twist it to further their trolling.

> They like making snide remarks and
> insulting people,

that's exactly what *you* do.

> but when you ignore that behavior, you realize that
> they are learning.

you certainly haven't learned much of anything.

have you figured out how to use your iphone at night?

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From: jollyro...@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:07 UTC

On 2023-01-25, cris <cris@removespam.me.com> wrote:
> On 25/01/2023 17:14, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>>> But what nospam and Jolly Roger have shown no understanding of is that
>>> Apple says the only full hotfix is the latest version (iOS 16, for
>>> now).
>>> https://support.apple.com/guide/depoyment/about-software-updates-depc4c80847a
>>
>> Wrong yet again.
>
> There's no sense continuing with you.
>
> Both Jolly Roger & nospam think that because Apple patched one critical
> vulnerability in iOS 12 then by golly, Apple has (in their minds) just
> *FULLY PATCHED* the iOS 12 release which shipped more than four years ago.

Neither one of us said those words, dip shit troll.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 02:08 UTC

On 2023-01-25, mike <this@address.is.invalid> wrote:
> On 25-01-2023 13:49 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>>> How did you get that all wrong again?
>>
>> I didn't. It is a *fact* that Apple just released a security update for
>> iOS 12.
>
> How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
> updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?

Irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just patched a security
vulnerability in iOS 12.You *HATE* facts.

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 by: mike - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 03:02 UTC

On 26-01-2023 02:08 Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>> How could you go on, post after post, and still not understand how Apple
>> updates the iOS release stream for iPads and for iPhones?
>
> Irrelevant to the *fact* that Apple just patched a security
> vulnerability in iOS 12

That's it. You demonstrated you have no idea how Apple updates releases.

There's no use talking to you since you've proved lack of understanding.
Have a good day.

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 by: cris - Thu, 26 Jan 2023 03:11 UTC

On 26/01/2023 04:18, sms wrote:

> They understand all of what you insist that they don't understand.

I understand that you think they do, but they haven't demonstrated any
capability to understand since they insist that a single critical
vulnerability is the entire list of known bugs in any one release.

I think they actually believe one bug is everything there ever will be.
Forever. One bug. That's it. Forever iOS 12 is "patched" in their minds.

Anyways, it's no use, as I agree with your recommendation to give up.
They don't understand Apple releases. They probably never will.

At least you do.
As do I.

That's all that matters now.

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