5 broken no registration nntp servers?

[nntp.aioe.org:119]
[news.dizum.net:119]
[freenews.netfront.net:119]
[news.neodome.net:119]
[news.mixmin.net:563]

aioe is still out of commission as an nntp server
dizum is no longer available for posting
netfront is no longer available for posting
neodome is no longer available for posting
mixmin is delaying some messages by days and not sending most others

Regards,
Rudy Wieser

On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:

> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>
> [nntp.aioe.org]

> [news.mixmin.net]
>

Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just proxied
to the other.

On 2/21/2023 4:18 PM, noel wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
>
>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>>
>> [nntp.aioe.org]
>
>> [news.mixmin.net]
>>
>
> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just proxied
> to the other.
>

Ah, no.

tracert news.aioe.org

... leaseweb

tracert news.mixmin.net

... hetzner

Different COLO rental companies.

Try this:

http://www.mixmin.net

then tell me what legendary maintenance is evident.

The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen.
He can make you think anything he wants.

Paul

On 21 Feb 2023, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> posted some
news:63f53529$1@news.ausics.net:

> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
>
>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>>
>> [nntp.aioe.org]
>
>> [news.mixmin.net]
>>
>
> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just
> proxied to the other.

One failed, the other was deliberately crippled to thwart the abuse that
drifted over from the other.

On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:33:59 -0500, Paul wrote:

> On 2/21/2023 4:18 PM, noel wrote:
>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
>>
>>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>>>
>>> [nntp.aioe.org]
>>
>>> [news.mixmin.net]
>>>
>>>
>> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
>> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just
>> proxied to the other.
>>
>>
> Ah, no.
>
> tracert news.aioe.org
>
> ... leaseweb
>
> tracert news.mixmin.net
>
> ... hetzner
>
> Different COLO rental companies.
>
> Try this:
>
> http://www.mixmin.net
>
> then tell me what legendary maintenance is evident.
>
> The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen. He can make you think
> anything he wants.
>
> Paul

A previous life taught me one thing, there is no such thing as
coincidences ;)

mixmin says
13:22:46 400 Interrupted system call writing creating overview file

started the same time paolo's went byebyes

noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:

> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:33:59 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
> > On 2/21/2023 4:18 PM, noel wrote:
> >> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
> >>
> >>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
> >>>
> >>> [nntp.aioe.org]
> >>
> >>> [news.mixmin.net]
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
> >> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just
> >> proxied to the other.
> >>
> >>
> > Ah, no.
> >
> > tracert news.aioe.org
> >
> > ... leaseweb
> >
> > tracert news.mixmin.net
> >
> > ... hetzner
> >
> > Different COLO rental companies.
> >
> > Try this:
> >
> > http://www.mixmin.net
> >
> > then tell me what legendary maintenance is evident.
> >
> > The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen. He can make you think
> > anything he wants.
> >
> > Paul
>
>
> A previous life taught me one thing, there is no such thing as
> coincidences ;)
>
> mixmin says
> 13:22:46 400 Interrupted system call writing creating overview file
>
> started the same time paolo's went byebyes
>

Could they both have been victims of an exploit
aimed at knocking open servers off the net?

--
^Ï^. – Sn!pe – My pet rock Gordon just is.

If you want peace, prepare for war.

On 2/21/23 21:24, noel wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:33:59 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> On 2/21/2023 4:18 PM, noel wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>>>>
>>>> [nntp.aioe.org]
>>>
>>>> [news.mixmin.net]
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
>>> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just
>>> proxied to the other.
>>>
>>>
>> Ah, no.
>>
>> tracert news.aioe.org
>>
>> ... leaseweb
>>
>> tracert news.mixmin.net
>>
>> ... hetzner
>>
>> Different COLO rental companies.
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> http://www.mixmin.net
>>
>> then tell me what legendary maintenance is evident.
>>
>> The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen. He can make you think
>> anything he wants.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> A previous life taught me one thing, there is no such thing as
> coincidences ;)
>
> mixmin says
> 13:22:46 400 Interrupted system call writing creating overview file
>
> started the same time paolo's went byebyes

They're blowing smoke up you know where.

Pink beret Master Sergeant Koinky Dink.

Paul wrote:

> tracert news.aioe.org
>
> ... leaseweb
>
> tracert news.mixmin.net
>
> ... hetzner

Hi Paul,
I know you through the Windows 10 newsgroup where you are reliable.
Can you take a look at this thread for the team please:
*Results of a test of mixmin posts, comparing the past few years with today's results*
<https://groups.google.com/g/alt.free.newsservers/c/7D8qQDNHeKk>

There is "something" connected between Mixmin and AIOE but what?
I don't know enough to figure it out.

But I just posted a response to this thread which shows that if you post
through news.mixmin.net:563 via a normal newsreader, your posts are now
delayed by from 8 hours to 3 days - with the wrong time stamps when your
posts finally show up... but ... and this is weird.... get this...

The PATH seems to have aioe in it!

Here's my PATH for example, verbatim, on a recent post where the
thread I had been responding to was authored this Sunday morning,
and I replied this Sunday morning, and on Wednesday the post finally
showed up - dated Monday by the way - but with aioe in the PATH.]

Path: sewer!news.mixmin.net!.POSTED!sewer!alphared!news.uzoreto.com!aioe.org!uC+u+wrvCiJRhswcuU7oWw.user.46.165.242.75.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net>
Newsgroups: misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.android
Subject: Re: T-Mobile is Ending $5 Per Line Autopay Discount if You Pay with a Credit Card <was: 16.4 Public Beta is Out. Finally enables 5G On Google Fi>
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:30:29 +0000
Organization: Mixmin
Message-ID: <tst896$1ongb$1@news.mixmin.net>
References: <tsqtni$2ar0$1@dont-email.me> <180220231127060887%nospam@nospam.invalid> <tsqusa$vsp5$1@paganini.bofh.team> <tsr0sq$2pii$1@dont-email.me> <tsrcrn$48ja$1@dont-email.me> <180220231913479333%nospam@nospam.invalid>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Injection-Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2023 13:30:15 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: news.mixmin.net; posting-host="297e06ba09fa1546708017b06624236cbc5371ad"; logging-data="1859083"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@mixmin.net"
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.6.1
Content-Language: en-GB
Xref: sewer misc.phone.mobile.iphone:116151 comp.mobile.android:98520

How did AIOE get in the PATH for a thread that started last Sunday?

On 21 Feb 2023, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> posted some
news:63f58ad9$1@news.ausics.net:

> On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 19:33:59 -0500, Paul wrote:
>
>> On 2/21/2023 4:18 PM, noel wrote:
>>> On Fri, 17 Feb 2023 06:50:33 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
>>>
>>>> 5 broken no registration nntp servers?
>>>>
>>>> [nntp.aioe.org]
>>>
>>>> [news.mixmin.net]
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Lots of speculation that these two are one on the same, both failed at
>>> the same time, both suffering prolonged outages, perhaps one just
>>> proxied to the other.
>>>
>>>
>> Ah, no.
>>
>> tracert news.aioe.org
>>
>> ... leaseweb
>>
>> tracert news.mixmin.net
>>
>> ... hetzner
>>
>> Different COLO rental companies.
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> http://www.mixmin.net
>>
>> then tell me what legendary maintenance is evident.
>>
>> The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen. He can make you think
>> anything he wants.
>>
>> Paul
>
>
> A previous life taught me one thing, there is no such thing as
> coincidences ;)
>
> mixmin says
> 13:22:46 400 Interrupted system call writing creating overview file
>
> started the same time paolo's went byebyes

Actually it didn't, it was after.

On 2023/02/21 5:33 pm, Paul wrote:

> The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen.
> He can make you think anything he wants.

What does that mean?

I use Mixmin but I use it just like any other nntp server.
How is he the master of the smoke screen?

I went to the web page you suggested and didn't understand anything.
Here's just one example http://www.mixmin.net/map.png

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 09:47:08 +0000, Max wrote:

>> A previous life taught me one thing, there is no such thing as
>> coincidences ;)
>>
>> mixmin says 13:22:46 400 Interrupted system call writing creating
>> overview file
>>
>> started the same time paolo's went byebyes
>
> Actually it didn't, it was after.

I take from and send feeds to, mixmin, by my dfeed logs it was around the
same time when I looked

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 11:17:45 +0000, Sn!pe wrote:

>
>>
> Could they both have been victims of an exploit aimed at knocking open
> servers off the net?

They both run INN, it seems unlikely its nerarious actors, I'd rule out 0
day exploit on INN because its over two weeks, so there would be many
more servers "knocked offline" if that was the case, so no, I'd say its
not an INN problem.

On 2/22/2023 1:00 AM, John Robertson wrote:
> On 2023/02/21 5:33 pm, Paul wrote:
>
>
>> The Mixmin admin is a master of the smoke screen.
>> He can make you think anything he wants.
>
> What does that mean?
>
> I use Mixmin but I use it just like any other nntp server.
> How is he the master of the smoke screen?
>
> I went to the web page you suggested and didn't understand anything.
> Here's just one example http://www.mixmin.net/map.png

Pouring a bunch of files into a dumpster, and setting it on fire,
is not a "web server".

The map.png is a map of everything running on the machine.
m2n is "mail2news" function. For other functions, like
a mixmaster, you can look some of them up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixmaster_anonymous_remailer

The file map.png, is from the year 2012, or eleven years ago.

Paul