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* Mailx not workingroot
+* Re: Mailx not workingroot
|`* Re: Mailx not workingGrant Taylor
| `* Re: Mailx not workingroot
|  `- Re: Mailx not workingBen Collver
+* Re: Mailx not workingBit Twister
|`- Re: Mailx not workingroot
`* Re: Mailx not workingBozo User
 `- Re: Mailx not workingLew Pitcher

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From: NoEM...@home.org (root)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Mailx not working
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:27:19 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: root - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:27 UTC

This morning mailx fails with:
mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)

I can only conclude this is the result of
something new at gmail. Any suggestions?

Re: Mailx not working

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From: NoEM...@home.org (root)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:33:58 -0000 (UTC)
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 by: root - Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:33 UTC

root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> This morning mailx fails with:
> mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
> error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
>
> I can only conclude this is the result of
> something new at gmail. Any suggestions?

I can send to some addresses. It must be that
the destination has to be updated to accept
oauth2.

Re: Mailx not working

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From: BitTwis...@mouse-potato.com (Bit Twister)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
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 by: Bit Twister - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 00:07 UTC

On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:27:19 -0000 (UTC), root wrote:
> This morning mailx fails with:
> mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
> error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
>
> I can only conclude this is the result of
> something new at gmail. Any suggestions?

I can not say for sure but I do know I seem to get gmail
failures every two or three days from my 24/7 hourly fetchmail cron
jobs. All of them are log in failures. I noticed fetchmail goes
into a tight loop upon login failure. Had to add a spawn kill fetchmail
if still running after a minute.

My guess was that gmail suspends your login if too many attempts
from your ip. I have seven separate accounts running fetchmail on
the hour and assumed I cross a threshold every once in awhile.

Re: Mailx not working

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From: gtay...@tnetconsulting.net (Grant Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 21:52:16 -0600
Organization: TNet Consulting
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 by: Grant Taylor - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 03:52 UTC

On 6/7/22 11:33 AM, root wrote:
> I can send to some addresses. It must be that the destination has to
> be updated to accept oauth2.

That doesn't make sense.

OAuth(2) is at the SMTP layer which rides on top of the lower TLS (via
STARTTLS) layer.

You indicate that the error is at the lower (START)TLS layer.

--
Grant. . . .
unix || die

Re: Mailx not working

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From: NoEM...@home.org (root)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2022 17:14:27 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Linux Advocacy
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 by: root - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 17:14 UTC

Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
> On 6/7/22 11:33 AM, root wrote:
>> I can send to some addresses. It must be that the destination has to
>> be updated to accept oauth2.
>
> That doesn't make sense.
>
> OAuth(2) is at the SMTP layer which rides on top of the lower TLS (via
> STARTTLS) layer.
>
> You indicate that the error is at the lower (START)TLS layer.
>

Thanks Grant. I just think the damned mail business should work,
an not require me to probe into the works.

>
>

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Subject: Re: Mailx not working
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 by: root - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 17:17 UTC

Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jun 2022 17:27:19 -0000 (UTC), root wrote:
>> This morning mailx fails with:
>> mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
>> error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
>>
>> I can only conclude this is the result of
>> something new at gmail. Any suggestions?
>
> I can not say for sure but I do know I seem to get gmail
> failures every two or three days from my 24/7 hourly fetchmail cron
> jobs. All of them are log in failures. I noticed fetchmail goes
> into a tight loop upon login failure. Had to add a spawn kill fetchmail
> if still running after a minute.
>
> My guess was that gmail suspends your login if too many attempts
> from your ip. I have seven separate accounts running fetchmail on
> the hour and assumed I cross a threshold every once in awhile.

I don't use chron to fetchmail. I just pull it down from time
to time. I got this message on the second of three emails
that I pulled down together. A while later I was able to
send email to the site. Still later I got the TLS message
again. I have mit.edu address for the recipient so I can
still get email to him.

Re: Mailx not working

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From: bencoll...@tilde.pink (Ben Collver)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
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 by: Ben Collver - Wed, 8 Jun 2022 19:05 UTC

On 2022-06-08, root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> I just think the damned mail business should work,
> an not require me to probe into the works.

Maybe this could be solved with analprint too-olfactory auth.

https://is.gd/Kriq13

Re: Mailx not working

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From: ant...@disroot.org (Bozo User)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
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 by: Bozo User - Sat, 20 Jan 2024 23:57 UTC

On 2022-06-07, root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
> This morning mailx fails with:
> mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
> error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
>
> I can only conclude this is the result of
> something new at gmail. Any suggestions?

GMail disabled plain IMAP/SMTP support without 0Auth.
You need to use a bloated Thunderbird or KMail to login,
sadly.

Re: Mailx not working

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From: lew.pitc...@digitalfreehold.ca (Lew Pitcher)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux.slackware
Subject: Re: Mailx not working
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 by: Lew Pitcher - Sun, 21 Jan 2024 00:16 UTC

On Sat, 20 Jan 2024 23:57:10 +0000, Bozo User wrote:

> On 2022-06-07, root <NoEMail@home.org> wrote:
>> This morning mailx fails with:
>> mailx: could not initiate TLS connection:
>> error:00000000:lib(0):func(0):reason(0)
>>
>> I can only conclude this is the result of
>> something new at gmail. Any suggestions?
>
> GMail disabled plain IMAP/SMTP support without 0Auth.
> You need to use a bloated Thunderbird or KMail to login,
> sadly.

The OP could log into the gmail account via the web, and obtain
an "app password" for "third party connections". The OP can then
use this "app password" as the gmail password in his mailx to
get remote access to the gmail mail store.

That's how I download my gmail mail: fetchmail logs on to gmail
with the "app password", and uses POP3 to retrieve my gmail
to my LAN mail server.

HTH
--
Lew Pitcher
"In Skills We Trust"

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