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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:49 UTC

Chris wrote:

> Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Is iOS' Health and Fitness apps not good enough?
>
> Nope. They don't record cycling/walking information on their own. They
> need an app.
>
> Although they do suggest apps and Komoot looked interesting. Requires an
> account, however.

Hi Chris,

I agree with any sensible person who doesn't want to be forced to create an
account to log their activities - and - especially to log their activities.

In the days when iPads had huge screens and batteries that lasted forever,
I had tested _every_ free mapping tracking viewing routing app available on
iOS a few years ago (and wrote reviews on them at the time), none of which
would I load on my iPads if they required any account to any mothership.

That's wrong to require a mothership tracking account for (almost) any app.

However, once Android batteries started lasting forever and the screens
became huge at the same time, I stopped using the iPad for any tracking.

But I opened each of the apps I used to use on my iPad just now (where the
iPad has been updated to iOS 16.3.1) and two of the three still work.
Topo Reader (which I had liked best - has been "terminated by iOS"
Topo Maps (still works) <by Pierre-Olivier Latour>
Topo Maps+ (still works) <https://topomaps.co/>

I order all my apps in order of usefulness, so it's odd that the one map
app that was good on iOS was unilaterally "terminated by iOS", but it was.

Have you ever seen that message that an app was "terminated by iOS" before?
I have not. This is a first. It's expected with Apple. But still the first.

In summary, you might wish to try one of those two topo maps apps instead.
(For some reason, they don't have "Help about" buttons to find their URL.)

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 17:32 UTC

In article <tvpphe$3vs6f$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> In the days when iPads had huge screens

in what days were those?

ipad screen sizes have *increased* over the years.

> However, once Android batteries started lasting forever and the screens
> became huge at the same time, I stopped using the iPad for any tracking.

google's entire business model is tracking, so if tracking is what you
want, google is the way to go.

google even tracks you when you turn off location services, they're
*that* good.

always choose the best tool for the job.

> Have you ever seen that message that an app was "terminated by iOS" before?

sure have.

> I have not. This is a first. It's expected with Apple. But still the first.

you don't even know what it means, by your own admission, so how do you
know that it's expected or why it happened? you don't.

what *is* expected is that you invent another conspiracy theory, and
you've fulfilled that expectation.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 18:15 UTC

nospam wrote:

> In article <tvpphe$3vs6f$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
> <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>> In the days when iPads had huge screens
>
> in what days were those?

Your memory is that of a gnat, nospam, as I published a bunch of tutorials
on using the iPad for hiking purposes because of the screen & battery life.

> ipad screen sizes have *increased* over the years.

The point you whooshed on, and which I said so it just means you're stupid,
nospam, seriously... that's not even an ad hominem attack - it's a fact,
which is that Android phablets got larger and the batteries last forever
nowadays (I don't even charge overnight anymore - and haven't in a while).

Only on an iPhone are people stuck tethered to an outlet every night.

>> However, once Android batteries started lasting forever and the screens
>> became huge at the same time, I stopped using the iPad for any tracking.
>
> google's entire business model is tracking, so if tracking is what you
> want, google is the way to go.

You're so indoctrinated by Apple's marketing bullshit that you believe it.

You forget *Apple's business model _requires_ you to be tracked* in almost
everything that you do, nospam, and no amount of your lies changes that.

HINT: Android phones work fine (even better) without a Google Account...

> google even tracks you when you turn off location services, they're
> *that* good.

You always claim Google made Apple do all the bad things Apple does.
Why?

You can turn off the location tracking, nospam. Well, you can't.
You're on iOS.

The iPhone won't work for most people without Apple tracking built in.

HINT: You don't need a Google account to download apps on Android
while Apple inserts a unique tracking ID into every app on iOS!

> always choose the best tool for the job.

At this point in time, the iPad isn't the best tool for _any_ job,
unfortunately, now that it can't even do basic hiking like it used to
(where I'm talking about the best iOS hiking app being "terminated").

If you can think of anything the iPad can do that my Android phone doesn't
already do (probably years ago even), please let me know as the only thing
I use the iPad for nowadays is (a) google voice, and (b) test your bullshit
(and you always fail).

HINT: Look at Jolly Roger's bullshit about 1Blocker I recently tested.
<https://i.postimg.cc/660z6Sb0/mothership24.jpg> Works only in Safari
<https://i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't work
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> 1Blocker is crippleware

>> Have you ever seen that message that an app was "terminated by iOS" before?
>
> sure have.

What does it even mean to be "terminated by iOS" nospam?

>> I have not. This is a first. It's expected with Apple. But still the first.
>
> you don't even know what it means, by your own admission, so how do you
> know that it's expected or why it happened? you don't.

I am nothing like you low-self-esteem iKooks. You pretend to know
everything because you were told your entire life you're stupid, nospam.
<https://img.yumpu.com/6936343/1/500x640/standouts-the-beat-within.jpg>

I'm not afraid to admit I've never seen that message before.
What does it mean for an app to be "terminated by iOS", nospam?

> what *is* expected is that you invent another conspiracy theory, and
> you've fulfilled that expectation.

What does it mean for an iPad app to be "terminated by iOS", nospam?
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to faithfully ask a simple question of nospam.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 19:17 UTC

In article <tvq23k$pel$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> >> In the days when iPads had huge screens
> >
> > in what days were those?
>
> Your memory is that of a gnat, nospam, as I published a bunch of tutorials
> on using the iPad for hiking purposes because of the screen & battery life.

your avoiding answering the question is noted.

> > ipad screen sizes have *increased* over the years.
>
> The point you whooshed on, and which I said so it just means you're stupid,
> nospam, seriously... that's not even an ad hominem attack - it's a fact,
> which is that Android phablets got larger and the batteries last forever
> nowadays (I don't even charge overnight anymore - and haven't in a while).

it is an ad hominem attack. it's all you can do.

the fact is that ipad screen sizes have increased.

> Only on an iPhone are people stuck tethered to an outlet every night.

diversion noted, and your claim is also false.

> You forget *Apple's business model _requires_ you to be tracked* in almost
> everything that you do, nospam, and no amount of your lies changes that.

false.

> HINT: Android phones work fine (even better) without a Google Account...

no they don't, because doing that removes a *significant* amount of
functionality.

> > google even tracks you when you turn off location services, they're
> > *that* good.
>
> You always claim Google made Apple do all the bad things Apple does.
> Why?

nobody claimed that, and it wasn't true the last zillion times you said
it either.

> You can turn off the location tracking, nospam. Well, you can't.
> You're on iOS.

false.

unlike on android, turning off location on ios actually turns it off.

> The iPhone won't work for most people without Apple tracking built in.

apple doesn't track people.

but even if we are to assume your statement as true, android won't work
'for most people' without a google account.

> HINT: You don't need a Google account to download apps on Android
> while Apple inserts a unique tracking ID into every app on iOS!

they do not, as has been explained to you many times.

> > always choose the best tool for the job.
>
> At this point in time, the iPad isn't the best tool for _any_ job,

false.

> unfortunately, now that it can't even do basic hiking like it used to
> (where I'm talking about the best iOS hiking app being "terminated").

false.

> If you can think of anything the iPad can do that my Android phone doesn't
> already do (probably years ago even), please let me know as the only thing
> I use the iPad for nowadays is (a) google voice, and (b) test your bullshit
> (and you always fail).

yawn. how many times are you going to embarrass yourself?

universal control, sidecar, stage manager, hover, fald display and a
wealth of ipad-native software.

unlike on ipad, android tablet apps are almost always phone apps on a
big screen, and it shows (not in a good way).

cue trademark rant, further proof you're lost.

> HINT: Look at Jolly Roger's bullshit about 1Blocker I recently tested.

you don't know how it works so any tests you might have done are void.

> >> Have you ever seen that message that an app was "terminated by iOS" before?
> >
> > sure have.
>
> What does it even mean to be "terminated by iOS" nospam?

memory pressure.

> I'm not afraid to admit I've never seen that message before.

you're also not afraid to fabricate a baseless conspiracy theory as to
why it happens, without knowing any of the details.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 21:26 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> Your memory is that of a gnat, nospam, as I published a bunch of tutorials
>> on using the iPad for hiking purposes because of the screen & battery life.
>
> your avoiding answering the question is noted.

How many times must I repeat that I used the iPad for hiking because of the
bigger screen and better battery life, both of which are almost completely
negated by the phenomenal battery life of Androids & their big'ish screens.

With those laughably puny cheap iPhone batteries, you have no idea how
wonderful it is on most Android phones (which don't have the ridiculously
cheap batteries that Apple put in the iPhone) to never need to charge your
phone overnight ever again, nospam.

You pop it on the charger when it needs it, and an hour or two later, it's
fully charged again. It's that easy with Android.

Only with iOS are you stuck tethered to a charging cable every night.

>> You forget *Apple's business model _requires_ you to be tracked* in almost
>> everything that you do, nospam, and no amount of your lies changes that.
>
> false.

No other operating system, not even Windows 11 it turns out, requires a
mothership tracking account just to use the software in a normal fashion.

Only iOS.

>
>> HINT: Android phones work fine (even better) without a Google Account...
>
> no they don't, because doing that removes a *significant* amount of
> functionality.

Stop saying stupid things like that nospam. It makes you sound ignorant.
You know absolutely nothing about Android, nospam.

You know even less about Android than you do about iOS.
And that's not all that much given how wrong you are about iOS.

Despite you hating all facts about Apple, the fact remains a fact that
_only_ Apple inserts a unique tracking ID into every app you install.

Google doesn't.
Google can't.

Only Apple does.

>>> google even tracks you when you turn off location services, they're
>>> *that* good.
>>
>> You always claim Google made Apple do all the bad things Apple does.
>> Why?
>
> nobody claimed that, and it wasn't true the last zillion times you said
> it either.

You only have seven excuses for why Apple does all the bad things it does.

Every time Apple does something bad the first knee jerk reaction from you
is that Google made them do it. You say this all the time, nospam.

The only thing that changes is you say Samaung made Apple do all the bad
things when you can find something Apple did that Samsung copied.

Same with Microsoft.
It's one of your seven excuses that Apple has no free will, nospam.

>> You can turn off the location tracking, nospam. Well, you can't.
>> You're on iOS.
>
> false.
>
> unlike on android, turning off location on ios actually turns it off.

Again, you know nothing about Android, nospam.
You don't even use Android devices, nospam.
You don't even own a modern iOS device for heaven's sake.

Why should you when you can just make everything up that you claim.

>> The iPhone won't work for most people without Apple tracking built in.
>
> apple doesn't track people.

Then you tell us all why Apple inserts your unique ID into every app,
nospam. And you tell us why Apple _forces_ you to log into their mothership
tracking servers, nospam.

No other common consumer operating system does that, nospam.
Not even Windows 11. (see sig for reference)

> but even if we are to assume your statement as true, android won't work
> 'for most people' without a google account.

Why do you say stupid things, nospam?
You don't even own Android.
You have absolutely zero idea how it works.

I get it that your modus operandi is to lie like there is no tomorrow.
But stop it.

Every time you say stupid things like that it proves your ignorance.

>
>> HINT: You don't need a Google account to download apps on Android
>> while Apple inserts a unique tracking ID into every app on iOS!
>
> they do not, as has been explained to you many times.

You can lie all you want about the unique ID that only Apple inserts into
your apps, nospam, but your lies don't change the fact that Apple does it.
*No other operating system adds a unique to you ID to your apps*

>> HINT: Look at Jolly Roger's bullshit about 1Blocker I recently tested.
>
> you don't know how it works so any tests you might have done are void.

If you think the free 1Blocker is _not_ crippleware, nospam, then again,
it's not an ad hominem attack to say that you're incredibly stupid.

FACT: *1Blocker freeware is crippleware*

<https://i.postimg.cc/9XtgRz0y/mothership01.jpg> Apple forces verification
<https://i.postimg.cc/q73jkvWh/mothership02.jpg> into mothership trackers
<https://i.postimg.cc/7hmNBGJc/mothership03.jpg> Safari & Chrome work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/GhmK4QZ1/mothership04.jpg> So does Youtube work fine
<https://i.postimg.cc/vBv7BghB/mothership05.jpg> No problem with web pages
<https://i.postimg.cc/xjtyVmqp/mothership06.jpg> The walled garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/ht79m3sN/mothership07.jpg> iMessage garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/5tBL7YZ3/mothership08.jpg> FaceTime garden fails
<https://i.postimg.cc/Y09FCXjn/mothership09.jpg> App Store finds 1Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/tC869Nbk/mothership10.jpg> App Store installs apps
<https://i.postimg.cc/FKVkgtLC/mothership11.jpg> But it won't do iCloud
<https://i.postimg.cc/BbX80XwR/mothership12.jpg> 1Blocker Ad Blocker IPA
<https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Get 1Blocker Ad Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/Dy4Wp4GX/mothership13.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/6pd8tsY6/mothership14.jpg> Open 1Blocker Ad Blocker
<https://i.postimg.cc/1RjnKr8S/mothership15.jpg> Welcome & Get Started
<https://i.postimg.cc/W39DCMSM/mothership16.jpg> Enable Safari extensions
<https://i.postimg.cc/wjJmMRTp/mothership17.jpg> Go to Safari Settings
<https://i.postimg.cc/tRSPMHmL/mothership18.jpg> Safari 1Blocker setup
<https://i.postimg.cc/W3SrjRpq/mothership19.jpg> Enabled Safari extensions
<https://i.postimg.cc/9F1WpW87/mothership20.jpg> Note 1Blocker Scripts
<https://i.postimg.cc/vHT7YmVY/mothership21.jpg> Enable 1Blocker Scripts
<https://i.postimg.cc/FzsyJrCx/mothership22.jpg> 1Blocker Script setup
<https://i.postimg.cc/pXcZzjH5/mothership23.jpg> Explore Premium Features
<https://i.postimg.cc/660z6Sb0/mothership24.jpg> Works only in Safari
<https://i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't work
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> 1Blocker is crippleware

One difference between you and me, nospam, is you lie & I prove what I say.

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 22:09 UTC

In article <tvqd9u$1uhe$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> You pop it on the charger when it needs it, and an hour or two later, it's
> fully charged again. It's that easy with Android.

it's also that easy for just about every modern consumer electronic
device with rechargeable batteries, and often quite a bit less than 'an
hour or two later'.

if your android phone takes that long to charge, then the manufacturer
must not have included the 'proper charger' in the box. or it's just a
shitty phone.

> Only with iOS are you stuck tethered to a charging cable every night.

false.

iphones are among the phones with the longest run time per charge.

except for this one:
<https://helios-i.mashable.com/imagery/articles/07JAqObUYuTuodolINwV5Op/
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<https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/xqX8ju5wAD9iHvbiUUYN4W-1200-80.jpg>

> Again, you know nothing about Android, nospam.
> You don't even use Android devices, nospam.
> You don't even own a modern iOS device for heaven's sake.

you got three out of three wrong.

good work!

> If you think the free 1Blocker is _not_ crippleware, nospam, then again,
> it's not an ad hominem attack to say that you're incredibly stupid.
>
> FACT: *1Blocker freeware is crippleware*

it has a free tier with paid options, just like countless other apps on
all platforms.

it's also not the only option for content blocking.

your fixation with one single app, which you do not even understand how
it works, demonstrates ignorance.

> One difference between you and me, nospam, is I lie & you prove what you say.

ftfy

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:23 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> You pop it on the charger when it needs it, and an hour or two later, it's
>> fully charged again. It's that easy with Android.
>
> it's also that easy for just about every modern consumer electronic
> device with rechargeable batteries, and often quite a bit less than 'an
> hour or two later'.

What you don't understand is Apple put cheap batteries into the iPhone.
They won't last as many cycles as the better batteries in Androids, nospam.

>> Only with iOS are you stuck tethered to a charging cable every night.
>
> false.

Apple put cheap batteries in the iPhone and all your denials don't change
that fact which is _easily_ proven simply by looking at the AH ratings.

They won't last as many cycles as the better batteries in Androids, nospam.

> iphones are among the phones with the longest run time per charge.

Based on physics, iPhones will die _years_ sooner than Androids simply
because you lose a given percentage of initial capacity over time.

That you are ignorant of that fact proves how little you know, nospam.

>> FACT: *1Blocker freeware is crippleware*
>
> it has a free tier with paid options, just like countless other apps on
> all platforms.

For you to claim the free 1Blocker app isn't crippleware is preposterous.
It doesn't do anything but a single filter & even then, only in Safari.

The free 1Blocker is nothing but crippleware no matter what you claim.

> it's also not the only option for content blocking.

Free functionality of iOS _always_ is vastly inferior to Android, nospam.
The free 1Blocker is nothing but crippleware no matter what you claim.

> your fixation with one single app, which you do not even understand how
> it works, demonstrates ignorance.

Compare _any_ free iOS app functionality to that of this free app, nospam:
<https://netguard.me/>

FACT:
*The free functionality on iOS pales in comparison to that of Android*

>> One difference between you and me, nospam, is I lie & you prove what you say.
>
> ftfy

Notice you always turn into a child whenever confronted with facts, nospam.
If you iKooks left this newsgroup, the group would be civil without you.
--
Posted out of the goodness of my heart to disseminate useful information
which, in this case, is to faithfully try to respond to nospam's lies.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:47 UTC

On 2023-03-26, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tvqd9u$1uhe$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
><nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>>
>> If you think the free 1Blocker is _not_ crippleware, nospam, then
>> again, it's not an ad hominem attack to say that you're incredibly
>> stupid.
>>
>> FACT: *1Blocker freeware is crippleware*
>
> it has a free tier with paid options, just like countless other apps
> on all platforms.
>
> it's also not the only option for content blocking.
>
> your fixation with one single app, which you do not even understand
> how it works, demonstrates ignorance.

He's only fixated on it because I happened to recommend it (among others
like AdGuard) for blocking ads in Safari, which it does for FREE without
any in-app purchases. : )

Arlen desperately wants to paint it as "crippleware" simply because it
has additional features (such as whole-device ad blocking) that can be
enabled with an in-app purchase. And as you say, countless apps on the
App Store have free functionality with optional in-app purchases for
additional functionality. And like all of those other apps, any adult
can plainly see that 1Blocker's basic ad blocking functionality is
indeed completely FREE. Same with AdGuard and numerous other iOS ad
blockers. Arlen desperately wants us to ignore these FACTS, because he
is driven by his FEELINGS of irrational hate. He's a loser.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: nospam - Sun, 26 Mar 2023 23:53 UTC

In article <tvqk4d$2l7l$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

> Apple put cheap batteries in the iPhone and all your denials don't change
> that fact which is _easily_ proven simply by looking at the AH ratings.

the ah rating has nothing to do with cheapness.

also, comparing ah rating between completely different hardware is
meaningless.

> They won't last as many cycles as the better batteries in Androids, nospam.

false.

the batteries in both iphones and the 'better batteries in androids'
(weasel words) are lithium polymer batteries.

the difference is that android hardware is less power efficient.

now go look at the batteries in the cheap android phones.

>
> Notice I turn into a child whenever confronted with facts.
> If I left this newsgroup, the group would be civil without me.

ftfy

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 05:28 UTC

nospam wrote:

>> Apple put cheap batteries in the iPhone and all your denials don't change
>> that fact which is _easily_ proven simply by looking at the AH ratings.
>
> the ah rating has nothing to do with cheapness.

There are _many_ news reports that Apple cheaped out on iPhone batteries.

That you're ignorant of that, even as we covered this topic in gory detail
on this very newsgroup, is typical of you iKooks who will remain ignorant.

> also, comparing ah rating between completely different hardware is
> meaningless.

Cycles nospam. Battery charge/recharge cycles, nospam.

That you're completely ignorant of battery charge/discharge cycles is
typical for you iKooks, who only know what Apple marketing feeds you.
>> They won't last as many cycles as the better batteries in Androids, nospam.
>
> false.

That you are ignorant of physics, is typical for you iKooks, nospam.

> the batteries in both iphones and the 'better batteries in androids'
> (weasel words) are lithium polymer batteries.
>
> the difference is that android hardware is less power efficient.
>
> now go look at the batteries in the cheap android phones.

My _free_ Android phone has a better battery than any battery ever put into
any iPhone ever built, nospam - and that you can't comprehend that is
typical for you iKooks (mine is 5 amp hours - and that's not even large).

>> Notice I turn into a child whenever confronted with facts.
>> If I left this newsgroup, the group would be civil without me.
>
> ftfy

You do that because you're unable to respond to facts as an adult, nospam.

The facts are incontrovertible that Apple put cheap batteries in the iPhone
which, over time, will fail far sooner than the larger better batteries.

Do you really think Apple "cared" about you when they put those laughably
puny batteries in the expensive iPhones, nospam? Seriously. Think for once.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 05:42 UTC

Jolly Roger wrote:

> He's only fixated on it because I happened to recommend it (among others
> like AdGuard) for blocking ads in Safari, which it does for FREE without
> any in-app purchases. : )

You forget, Jolly Roger, that I own & use _both_ iOS & Android platforms.
You do not.

In fact, you iKooks are completely ignorant of what's outside the confines
of the walled garden that you feel so fantastically safe locked inside of.

It's almost always the case free software is crippled on iOS vs Android.
What you call "fixated", Jolly Roger, is I faithfully _tested_ 1Blocker.

FACT:
*In its free form, 1Blocker is worthless crippleware*, Jolly Roger.
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> 1Blocker is crippleware

Compare, for example, that crippleware with the free equivalent on Android.
<https://netguard.me/>
There is _nothing_ on iOS doing even half of what that FOSS NetGuard does.
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M66B/NetGuard/master/screenshots/01-main.png>
> He desperately wants to paint it as "crippleware" simply because it
> has additional features (such as whole-device ad blocking) that can be
> enabled with an in-app purchase.

Jolly Roger,
Do you understand what the _free_ Netguard does for Android users?
(*Or are you completely _ignorant_ of everything you speak about*)?

Read what the free FOSS NetGuard does, for an example of functionality:
<https://github.com/M66B/NetGuard/releases>

> And as you say, countless apps on the
> App Store have free functionality with optional in-app purchases for
> additional functionality. And like all of those other apps, any adult
> can plainly see that 1Blocker's basic ad blocking functionality is
> indeed completely FREE. Same with AdGuard and numerous other iOS ad
> blockers. He desperately wants us to ignore these FACTS, because he
> is driven by his FEELINGS of irrational hate. He's a loser.

If you think the free 1Blocker is great functionality, Jolly Roger,
then that just proves that you are too ignorant to evaluate software.

Compare the free 1Blocker lack of functionality, Jolly Roger, for example,
to the free FOSS NetGuard functionality that Android owners easily enjoy.
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M66B/NetGuard/master/screenshots/01-main.png>
<https://raw.githubusercontent.com/M66B/NetGuard/master/screenshots/02-main-details.png>
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 by: nospam - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 11:00 UTC

In article <tvr9i3$9dql$1@paganini.bofh.team>, Andy Burnelli
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:

>
> >> Apple put cheap batteries in the iPhone and all your denials don't change
> >> that fact which is _easily_ proven simply by looking at the AH ratings.
> >
> > the ah rating has nothing to do with cheapness.
>
> There are _many_ news reports that Apple cheaped out on iPhone batteries.

no there aren't, and again, that's unrelated to ah ratings.

> That you're completely ignorant of battery charge/discharge cycles is
> typical for you iKooks, who only know what Apple marketing feeds you.

battery technology is the same for most modern devices (lithium ion or
lithium polymer), which means the cycle counts will be the same (aside
from individual variances).

further, cycle count is unrelated to ah rating.

you're very ignorant about a lot of things.

>
> > the batteries in both iphones and the 'better batteries in androids'
> > (weasel words) are lithium polymer batteries.
> >
> > the difference is that android hardware is less power efficient.
> >
> > now go look at the batteries in the cheap android phones.
>
> My _free_ Android phone

unless you stole it (something which cannot be ruled out), it wasn't
free.

> has a better battery than any battery ever put into
> any iPhone ever built,

you're delusional.

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On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
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>> There are _many_ news reports that Apple cheaped out on iPhone batteries.
>
> no there aren't, and again, that's unrelated to ah ratings.

He's right. We discussed this. With many details. You forget easily.

Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to lower
cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then Apple got hungry
and kept it cheap for battery components in the later iPhones after that.

Go back to the archives and look at the references you ignored saying that.

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 by: nospam - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 15:51 UTC

In article <tvs6vk$3887t$1@dont-email.me>, Nil
<rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:

>
> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to lower
> cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then Apple got hungry
> and kept it cheap for battery components in the later iPhones after that.

that is absolutely false.

> Go back to the archives and look at the references you ignored saying that.

do that yourself and try to understand what those references actually
say, versus what you want them to say.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:17 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
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>> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to lower
>> cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then Apple got hungry
>> and kept it cheap for battery components in the later iPhones after that.
>
> that is absolutely false.

You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's true.

>
>> Go back to the archives and look at the references you ignored saying that.
>
> do that yourself and try to understand what those references actually
> say, versus what you want them to say.

You never reads the news of what Apple does given that Apple putting cheap
boards and components starting with the iPhone 12 is very well documented.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:25 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> He's only fixated on it because I happened to recommend it (among
>> others like AdGuard) for blocking ads in Safari, which it does for
>> FREE without any in-app purchases. : )
>
> You forget, Jolly Roger, that I own & use _both_ iOS & Android
> platforms. You do not.

You don't know what I own, and Android is irrelevant in the Apple
newsgroups anyway, trollboi.

> iOS vs Android.

Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.

> equivalent on Android.

Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.

>> He desperately wants to paint it as "crippleware" simply because it
>> has additional features (such as whole-device ad blocking) that can
>> be enabled with an in-app purchase.

> for Android users

Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.

>> And as you say, countless apps on the App Store have free
>> functionality with optional in-app purchases for additional
>> functionality. And like all of those other apps, any adult can
>> plainly see that 1Blocker's basic ad blocking functionality is indeed
>> completely FREE. Same with AdGuard and numerous other iOS ad
>> blockers. He desperately wants us to ignore these FACTS, because he
>> is driven by his FEELINGS of irrational hate. He's a loser.
>
> you are too ignorant to evaluate software

Petty insults are all you have, trollboi.

> Android owners

Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:29 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>>> There are _many_ news reports that Apple cheaped out on iPhone
>>> batteries.
>>
>> no there aren't, and again, that's unrelated to ah ratings.
>
> He's right.

Nope. And until either one of you coughs up objectively verified
evidence of Apple supposedly "cheaping out on batteries", everyone else
will just assume you're full of shit.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 16:30 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>>> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to
>>> lower cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then
>>> Apple got hungry and kept it cheap for battery components in the
>>> later iPhones after that.
>>
>> that is absolutely false.
>
> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's
> true.

The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously false)
claim.

--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:21 UTC

On 2023-03-27 09:17, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>>> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to lower
>>> cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then Apple got hungry
>>> and kept it cheap for battery components in the later iPhones after that.
>>
>> that is absolutely false.
>
> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's true.

Sorry, but it is the responsibility of those making the claim to support it.

So whatcha got?

>
>>
>>> Go back to the archives and look at the references you ignored saying that.
>>
>> do that yourself and try to understand what those references actually
>> say, versus what you want them to say.
>
> You never reads the news of what Apple does given that Apple putting cheap
> boards and components starting with the iPhone 12 is very well documented.

And yet...

...you haven't provided ANY documentation.

Weird, huh?

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:21 UTC

On 2023-03-27 09:30, Jolly Roger wrote:
> On 2023-03-27, Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
>> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>>
>>>> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to
>>>> lower cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then
>>>> Apple got hungry and kept it cheap for battery components in the
>>>> later iPhones after that.
>>>
>>> that is absolutely false.
>>
>> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's
>> true.
>
> The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously false)
> claim.
>

Hitchen's Razor.

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 by: Bob Campbell - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:22 UTC

Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously false)
> claim.

Since the claim IS false, it will be funny (again) when The Trolls link to
an opinion piece that agrees with THEIR opinion on the matter, and thus
claim “Here this link proves my claim!”

As always, it is to laugh.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:51 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

>> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's
>> true.
>
> The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously false)
> claim.

I wanted to first prove how ignorant you are of all the news everyone else
knows because everyone but you reads the news about what Apple does.

Even better, I wanted to show you deny everything that you don't like.
You don't even *think* for a second before you deny what everyone knows.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:53 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
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> Nope. And until either one of you coughs up objectively verified
> evidence of Apple supposedly "cheaping out on batteries", everyone else
> will just assume you're full of shit.

You deny it.
Only because you don't like it.

It's the kind of person you are which almost nobody normal is.
Just you.

Most people *think* before they deny what everyone else knows.
But not you.

Everyone but you knows about Apple putting cheap battery components in the
iPhone 12, and you deny it without even *thinking* about it for a second.

What's wrong with you?

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 by: nospam - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 19:53 UTC

In article <CQ6dndr1b6OYcLz5nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@supernews.com>, Bob
Campbell <nunya@none.none> wrote:

> Since the claim IS false, it will be funny (again) when The Trolls link to
> an opinion piece that agrees with THEIR opinion on the matter, and thus
> claim ³Here this link proves my claim!²
>
> As always, it is to laugh.

it's even better when they link to something that says the opposite of
what they're claiming. it saves everyone else a lot of work.

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:05 UTC

Jolly Roger wrote:

> Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.

What's interesting is you are so _desperate_ to make facts go away you
can't even come up with a logically sensible argument against the facts.

For example... if Android is irrelevant on this newsgroup, Jolly Roger...
Why did you post this thread, Jolly Roger, if "Android is irrelevant"?
*EIGHTEEN new zero-day vulnerabilities found in Samsung Exynos chipsets*
By Jolly Roger, Mar 23, 2023
<https://groups.google.com/g/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/c/RwGiXy243dk>

Back to the facts...

Fact is, *1Blocker freeware is horrible unusable crappy crippleware*.
<https://i.postimg.cc/k4PwDddj/mothership25.jpg> Firewall doesn't work
<https://i.postimg.cc/Qxf6mPpt/mothership26.jpg> 1Blocker is crippleware

If you cant' see that, it's because you're not a normal person, JR.
*You're an iKook who thinks even worthless crippleware is great*.

It's no longer shocking that iKooks are ignorant about all iOS products.

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