In article <s9qqla$1f8s$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Heron
<McKeister@ipanywhere.com> wrote:

> How easy is it to jailbreak the newer iPhones?

easy, although not a good idea.

On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.

Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.

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nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 12:04
>> I love these idiots who decide that because they don't know how to do
>> something it is impossible.
>
> yep.
>
> they don't realize that different platforms do things in different ways.

In other words, you lied, and then when you caught, you move the goalposts.
You are used to iOS newsgroups nospam, where the bar on facts is set low.

On the adult OS newsgroups, you always get your head handed to you nospam.

The fact is you lied. Clear and simple.
People like you bother me because you have almost no redeeming qualities.

You are a despicable person with no qualms about leading people astray.
You and Jolly Roger & Lewis all own the same detestable disgusting traits.

What is wrong with you that you constantly claim iOS can do what Android
always has done just because you _hate_ that iOS can't even do it today?

Android even encourages it by having a default setting for Mock Location.
It just works.
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You and Lewis and Jolly Roger _hate_ that iOS can't do what Android does.

Lewis wrote on 09.06.2021 15:34
> Nut wee have established that you have no fucking clue what you are
> talking about, so you making a unsubstantiated statement is about as
> useful as farting in a tornado.

When Lewis posts, it brings this newsgroup down to his child-like level.

Jolly Roger wrote on 09.06.2021 04:05
> And it's fucking pathetic.

When Jolly Roger posts, he brings this newsgroup down to his childish level.

On 6/9/2021 9:35 AM, Heron wrote:
> On 6/8/2021 4:49 PM, sms wrote:
>> If you jailbreak your iPhone there are numerous GPS spoofing apps
>> available.
>
> How easy is it to jailbreak the newer iPhones?

It depends. It's easy to do the type of jailbreak that needs to be
repeated every time the phone is turned off then on. It is tethered the
first time then you can do it from the phone after that.

The Android model, where you have to enable "Developer Options" or where
you have to allow apps from "Unknown sources," forces you to acknowledge
what you're doing may have unintended consequences, but it lets you go
ahead and do it if you want to. There are a great many app stores
distributing Android applications that the Google Play store doesn't
have, including Amazon. In China, the Google Play store isn't even
available at all.

I think that the biggest use of GPS spoofing on the iPhone was for
Pokemon Go
<https://www.virtuallocation.com/fake-location/cydia-fake-location.html>, which
was rather silly (IMVAIO), but there are legitimate reasons to want to
spoof your GPS location.

In article <s9qrca$1qnl$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Ken Hart
<kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:

> > Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
> > much different from the android option to allow side-loading.
>
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.

it's buried in settings and also requires knowing about it and where to
look, which is not much different than finding a jailbreak tool online.

the latter might take an extra couple of minutes. big deal.

> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.

they do that because jailbreaking is a *huge* security risk, as is
enabling android apps outside of the playstore.

and then people wonder why android is so easily hacked.

In article <s9qs61$890$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> People like me bother others because I have almost no redeeming qualities.
>
> I am a despicable person

ftfy

In article <s9qsd4$c2e$1@gioia.aioe.org>, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

> When I post, it brings this newsgroup down to a child-like level.

ftfy

On 2021-06-09, Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
>>
>> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not much
>> different from the android option to allow side-loading.
>
> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by
> Google.

Apple doesn't actively prevent side loading on iOS either. Anyone can do
it, and all you get from Apple is a warning that the MDM profile you are
installing is UNTRUSTED.

<https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/iOS/iphone6-ios9-enterprise-untrusted_enterprise_app.png>

I went ahead and fixed this for you:

> Apple actively closes publicly-known security vulnerabilities used by
> jailbreakers in order to make their products more secure.

Jailbreaking ≠ side loading.

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On 2021-06-09, paul <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote on 09.06.2021 04:05
>> And it's fucking pathetic.
>
> When Jolly Roger posts, he brings this newsgroup down to his childish
> level.

Arleene is projecting again, since he's the one who decided to post
off-topic Android content to the iOS newsgroup as a lame troll in the
first place.

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nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 19:35
>> I am a despicable person
>
> ftfy

Any adults on this newsgroup (there aren't many) will notice you turned into
an instant child when you were confronted with the facts that you lied.

Same with Lewis, Chris, Jolly Roger, Joerg Lorenz et. al.

*Why do all of you constantly fabricate imaginary iOS functionality?*
I don't know why.

I suspect you _hate_ iOS can't do even simple things Android easily does.
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Android easily spoof GPS (it just works) and it's even in default settings.

nospam wrote on 09.06.2021 19:35
> they do that because jailbreaking is a *huge* security risk, as is
> enabling android apps outside of the playstore.

Whoever made the claim sideloading & jailbreaking are similar is wrong.

To your point Apple put so many fatal design flaws in the *HARDWARE*
that Apple can't _prevent_ jailbreaking of almost all iPhones out there.

Fact: *The secure enclave is fatally flawed* (it's not even fixable).
https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/10/05/apples-mac-t2-chip-has-an-unfixable-vulnerability-that-could-allow-root-access

> and then people wonder why android is so easily hacked.

*The people who buy Android aren't scared to death of technology.*
And they have the capacity to parse advertising bullshit from reality.
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Morons like you, Jolly Roger, Lewis, Joerg Lorenz, Chris, et. al. don't.

In message <s9qrca$1qnl$1@gioia.aioe.org> Ken Hart <kwhart1@frontier.com> wrote:
> On 6/9/2021 3:32 PM, Lewis wrote:
>> Jailbreaking is no real issue if you want to do it an not
>> much different from the android option to allow side-loading.

> Side loading on Android usually isn't deliberately prevented by Google.
> Apple actively tries to prevent jailbreaking methods that they know about.

Yes, because jail breaking represents a security flaw being exploited.

If that bothers you, go run Android and be sure and have an anti virus
utility. Too bad that anti virus is almost certainly malware, but you
know, FREEDUMB!

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reflect light / And a Fool will marvel at the sight / A fool such
as me, /Who sees not the gold, but the beauty of the shine

You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
That's because iOS isn't Android.
But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
By not being able to do things like that.
Now shut up and go back to doing unsafe things on Android.

On 6/10/2021 5:15 PM, YK wrote:
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.
> That's because iOS isn't Android.
> But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.
> By not being able to do things like that.
> Now shut up and go back to doing unsafe things on Android.

LOL, there are many unsafe things that you can do on Android but GPS
spoofing isn't one of those unsafe things. These are vetted apps on the
Play Store, not some questionable apk that you have to side load.

And BTW, while it's true that nospam was lying about using an app to
spoof GPS on iOS, you can still spoof GPS on an iPhone, you just need to
do it by tethering a Mac or Windows PC to the iPhone to set a location
rather than by using an app or a VPN with spoofing as you can do in
Android. It's inconvenient, but it's not impossible
<https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524>. If it were really
unsafe then Apple would not have allowed spoofing even using a tethered
solution.

One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.

With both iOS and Android, the apps that the OS provider doesn't want
you to have are often the apps that greatly improve functionality of the
device.

In article <s9u9vp$2rm$1@gioia.aioe.org>, YK <youkidding@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.

it can be done.

> That's because iOS isn't Android.

which is why the methods to do it are different.

> But Android isn't safe and iOS is safe.

generally true.

In article <s9ubn7$k7b$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> And BTW, while it's true that nospam was lying about using an app to
> spoof GPS on iOS,

you are lying about what i said. you're a desperate troll.

i location spoofing is possible, which it is. i did not specify the
method(s).

you are deliberately twisting things just to bash.

> you can still spoof GPS on an iPhone, you just need to
> do it by tethering a Mac or Windows PC to the iPhone to set a location
> rather than by using an app or a VPN with spoofing as you can do in
> Android.

you're backpedaling, but at least you admit that it can be done.

you might consider not contradicting yourself in the very same post.

> It's inconvenient, but it's not impossible
> <https://www.lifewire.com/fake-gps-location-4165524>. If it were really
> unsafe then Apple would not have allowed spoofing even using a tethered
> solution.

that particular method does look to be inconvenient, but it's not the
only way.

you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.

> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.

there are *significantly* more effective methods of content blocking
than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.

not only is content blocking fully supported on ios, but apple even has
extensive documentation on how to do it.

you really need to stop pretending to know what you're talking about,
especially about ios.

> With both iOS and Android, the apps that the OS provider doesn't want
> you to have are often the apps that greatly improve functionality of the
> device.

false.

as i said, apple fully supports content blockers and ios itself even
blocks certain things without the user needing to install anything
extra.

google, on the other hand, hates it since ads are how they make money,
and even if you install a content blocker, you're still being tracked.

iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.

On 6/10/2021 6:13 PM, YK wrote:
> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.

LOL.

In message <s9u9vp$2rm$1@gioia.aioe.org> YK <youkidding@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You can't spoof the GPS location on iOS even though nospam said you could.

You are wrong.

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in the same room and let them fight it out.

In article <s9udtb$7mb$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> On 6/10/2021 6:13 PM, YK wrote:
> > iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.
>
> LOL.

translated: sms further demonstrates he has no clue.

In article <s9udcd$13tn$1@gioia.aioe.org>, YK <youkidding@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> iOS is safer by not allowing ad blocking using dangerous hosts files.

correct.

instead, ios offers content blocking, which is much more than just
blocking ads, and is done in a safe and effective manner.

On 6/11/2021 3:59 AM, nospam wrote:
>> One Android apk that I do use is the non-Play Store version of Netguard.
>> The Play Store version does not allow downloading or importing a hosts
>> file to do ad blocking because Google doesn't want users blocking ads.
>> The apk version does allow hosts files. Of course with iOS there is no
>> option for editing the hosts file without jail-breaking.
>
> there are *significantly* more effective methods of content blocking
> than by editing a hosts file, which is a *huge* security hole on any
> platform and it doesn't even work that well anyway.

Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?
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On 6/10/2021 7:11 PM, Ken Hart wrote:

<snip>

> Isn't NETGUARD intended to set each app to work only with wifi or data?

That's one thing it does. But the Android apk version also allows you to
set a hosts file, either on the phone or a link to a hosts file.

A hosts file is a very effective method of blocking not only ads but
links to rogue content, it's one way to increase a device's security,
whether a computer or a phone.

There's one workaround, somewhat, detailed here:
<https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/17077/add-a-hosts-file-entry-without-jailbreaking>.