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Re: Recommended cycling/walking app

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From: nuh...@nope.com (Alan)
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Subject: Re: Recommended cycling/walking app
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2023 13:16:47 -0700
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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:16 UTC

On 2023-03-27 12:51, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>>> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's
>>> true.
>>
>> The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously false)
>> claim.
>
> I wanted to first prove how ignorant you are of all the news everyone else
> knows because everyone but you reads the news about what Apple does.
>
> Even better, I wanted to show you deny everything that you don't like.
> You don't even *think* for a second before you deny what everyone knows.

And STILL you don't provide a shred of this "news" you claim exists.

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From: nuh...@nope.com (Alan)
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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:17 UTC

On 2023-03-27 12:53, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> Nope. And until either one of you coughs up objectively verified
>> evidence of Apple supposedly "cheaping out on batteries", everyone else
>> will just assume you're full of shit.
>
> You deny it.
> Only because you don't like it.
>
> It's the kind of person you are which almost nobody normal is.
> Just you.
>
> Most people *think* before they deny what everyone else knows.
> But not you.
>
> Everyone but you knows about Apple putting cheap battery components in the
> iPhone 12, and you deny it without even *thinking* about it for a second.
>
> What's wrong with you?

Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:33 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
>
>> Android is irrelevant here, trollboi.
>
> What's interesting is you are so _desperate_ to make facts go away

The FACT is the OP asked for an *iOS* cycle/walking app, and you're here
blabbing about how Android is supposedly superior.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:34 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-27 12:51, Nil wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
>> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>>
>>>> You say that but you provide nothing but indignation because it's
>>>> true.
>>>
>>> The burden of proof is on you since you are making the (obviously
>>> false) claim.
>>
>> I wanted to first prove how ignorant you are of all the news everyone
>> else knows because everyone but you reads the news about what Apple
>> does.
>>
>> Even better, I wanted to show you deny everything that you don't
>> like. You don't even *think* for a second before you deny what
>> everyone knows.
>
> And STILL you don't provide a shred of this "news" you claim exists.

That's because it doesn't exist.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 20:36 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-27 12:53, Nil wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
>> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>>
>>> Nope. And until either one of you coughs up objectively verified
>>> evidence of Apple supposedly "cheaping out on batteries", everyone
>>> else will just assume you're full of shit.
>>
>> You deny it.

Nil claimed it without evidence.

>> Only because you don't like it.

Only because of Nil's irrational hatred of Apple.

>> What's wrong with you?
>
> Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.

Don't hold your breath.

Also, note how Nil keeps adding comp.sys.mac.advocacy to the Newsgroups
header. Trolls gonna troll. ; )

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:01 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

> it's even better when they link to something that says the opposite of
> what they're claiming. it saves everyone else a lot of work.

You just deny whatever it is about Apple that you don't happen to like.

And yet, everyone knows it was well documented that Apple cheaped out on
the iPhone 12 batteries (both the boards and the other components).

Everyone but you.

I want to show how not normal people like you are who deny things
without knowing a single thing about what it is they are denying.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:03 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad:

>> And STILL you don't provide a shred of this "news" you claim exists.
>
> That's because it doesn't exist.

Oh, it exists. It was well documented. Even on this newsgroup it was.
It was big news when it came out and Apple couldn't deny it.
Because it's true.

You just deny whatever it is about Apple that you don't happen to like.

I want to show how not normal people like you are who deny things
without knowing a single thing about what it is they are denying.

You are not a normal person because nobody normal would do that.
Just you.

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 by: Alan Browne - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:04 UTC

On 2023-03-27 15:21, Alan wrote:
> Hitchen's Razor

a nice complement to:
"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
-Carl Sagan. (and others before him).

--
“Donald Trump and his allies and supporters are a clear and present
danger to American democracy.”
- J Michael Luttig - 2022-06-16
- Former US appellate court judge (R) testifying to the January 6
committee

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:10 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
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>> Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.
>
> Don't hold your breath.

I wanted you to prove you deny whatever you don't like about Apple.
You don't even bother to *think* for a second about it.
You just deny it.

Nobody normal does that.
Just you.

Everyone knows it's well documented Apple cheaped out on the battery tech
for the iPhone 12 as it was widely documented in the news at the time.

But you don't read the news.
Even now, you can't be bothered to look it up.

You're much more comfortable denying everything you don't like about Apple.
Aren't you?

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 by: Andy Burnelli - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:14 UTC

Jolly Roger wrote:

> The FACT is the OP asked for an *iOS* cycle/walking app, and you're here
> blabbing about how Android is supposedly superior.

And yet, I provided _multiple_ solutions for the OP, with screenshots.

Besides, I'm not the one who brought up the iOS 1Blocker crippleware.

You did.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:18 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
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> Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.

You were provided the links.

You didn't read them.
Why not?

I know why.
You just want to deny everything about Apple that you don't like.

Things like cheap iPhone 12 battery components that Apple doesn't deny.]
Just you deny it.

Nobody else.
Just you.

You don't even *think* about what it is that you are denying.
If you knew anything about Apple, you couldn't deny it.

Especially since it's so well documented, only an idiot would deny it.
That idiot is you.

Everyone knows, except you, Apple cheaped out on the iPhone 12 batteries.
Look it up yourself before denying it again and again and again.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:26 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

> "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."

How about normal claims require normal evidence which is that it's
already well documented because it's true & everyone but you knows this.

It's a toss up if Alan Baker or Jolly Roger or nospam is more ignorant than
Alan Browne, which I wanted to point out because if the four of them left
this newsgroup, it would approach the normality of other Usenet newsgroups.

Everyone knows, but the iKooks, what Apple did...

<https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo>
<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech>
<https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/>
<https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/>
<https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery>
<https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/>
<https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657>
<https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/>
<https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-to-skimp-on-battery-tech-for-5g-iPhones-says-Kuo_id126708>

Notice that the iKooks all denied without even *thinking* about it.
They just don't like what Apple did so they deny that Apple did it.

Even Apple doesn't deny it.
Just the iKooks.

If they iKooks this newsgroup, it would approach normalcy of other groups.

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:43 UTC

On 2023-03-27 14:18, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.
>
> You were provided the links.

You're lying.

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:44 UTC

On 2023-03-27 14:01, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> it's even better when they link to something that says the opposite of
>> what they're claiming. it saves everyone else a lot of work.
>
> You just deny whatever it is about Apple that you don't happen to like.
>
> And yet, everyone knows it was well documented that Apple cheaped out on
> the iPhone 12 batteries (both the boards and the other components).
>
> Everyone but you.
>
> I want to show how not normal people like you are who deny things
> without knowing a single thing about what it is they are denying.

A simple example of this "documentation" would have served better than
all that verbiage.

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 by: Nil - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:51 UTC

On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

> A simple example of this "documentation" would have served better than
> all that verbiage.

I wanted to show everyone how you are ignorant of everything about Apple.

You're not a normal person in that it was provided to you so many times
already, and you deny it was provided because your brain can't read it.

You didn't read the documentation then, why would you read it now?

You will deny everything about Apple just because you don't like it.
It wouldn't even occur to your tiny Neanderthal brain to look it up.

<https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo>
<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech>
<https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/>
<https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/>
<https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery>
<https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/>
<https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657>
<https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/>
<https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-to-skimp-on-battery-tech-for-5g-iPhones-says-Kuo_id126708>

Notice that the iKooks all denied without even *thinking* about it.
Jolly Roger. nospam. Alan Baker. Alan Browne.

They all denied what they were informed of many times already.
They just don't like what Apple did so they deny that Apple did it.

Even Apple doesn't deny it.
Just the iKooks.

If the 4 iKooks this newsgroup, it would approach normalcy of other groups.

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On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:

>> You were provided the links.
>
> You're lying.

I wanted to show everyone how you are ignorant of everything about Apple.

You will deny everything about Apple just because you don't like it.
It wouldn't even occur to your tiny Neanderthal brain to look it up.

<https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo>
<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech>
<https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/>
<https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/>
<https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery>
<https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/>
<https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657>
<https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/>
<https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-to-skimp-on-battery-tech-for-5g-iPhones-says-Kuo_id126708>

Notice the iKooks all denied everything without even *thinking* about it.
Jolly Roger. nospam. Alan Baker. Alan Browne.

They all denied what they were informed of many times already.
They just don't like what Apple did so they deny that Apple did it.

Even Apple doesn't deny it.
Just the iKooks.

If the 4 iKooks this newsgroup, it would approach normalcy of other groups.

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:54 UTC

On 2023-03-27 14:26, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
>
> How about normal claims require normal evidence which is that it's
> already well documented because it's true & everyone but you knows this.
>
> It's a toss up if Alan Baker or Jolly Roger or nospam is more ignorant than
> Alan Browne, which I wanted to point out because if the four of them left
> this newsgroup, it would approach the normality of other Usenet newsgroups.
>
> Everyone knows, but the iKooks, what Apple did...
>
> <https://www.theverge.com/2020/8/21/21394985/apple-iphone-12-battery-cost-5g-kuo>

References a report by one analyst.

> <https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech>

References the same primary source.

> <https://www.maticstoday.com/2020/08/21/why-apple-is-using-cheap-battery-parts-in-iphone-12/>

Same source

> <https://9to5mac.com/2020/08/21/kuo-iphone-12-5g-component-cost/>

Same...

> <https://www.pcmag.com/news/report-iphone-12-to-use-smaller-cheaper-battery>

Same...

> <https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/20/kuo-iphone-12-battery-board/>

Same...

> <https://www.timesnownews.com/technology-science/article/apple-opting-for-cheaper-battery-parts-to-cut-costs-on-5g-iphone-12-analyst-ming-chi-kuo/640657>

Same...

> <https://techlog360.com/apple-will-use-cheaper-parts-in-the-iphone-12/>

Same...

> <https://www.phonearena.com/news/apple-to-skimp-on-battery-tech-for-5g-iPhones-says-Kuo_id126708>

And still the same.

So what you really have is ONE report by ONE analyst...

....who is far from all-knowing.

>
> Notice that the iKooks all denied without even *thinking* about it.

Notice that you tried make one piece of evidence look like nine.

> They just don't like what Apple did so they deny that Apple did it.
>
> Even Apple doesn't deny it.
> Just the iKooks.
>
> If they iKooks this newsgroup, it would approach normalcy of other groups.

Notice also that Arlen has added a new posting nym.

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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:55 UTC

On 2023-03-27 14:51, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> A simple example of this "documentation" would have served better than
>> all that verbiage.
>
> I wanted to show everyone how you are ignorant of everything about Apple.

And I've just shown that you're not bright enough to realize you've
reference one report by one analyst as if it were nine.

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From: nuh...@nope.com (Alan)
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 by: Alan - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 21:56 UTC

On 2023-03-27 14:54, Nil wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>>> You were provided the links.
>>
>> You're lying.
>
> I wanted to show everyone how you are ignorant of everything about Apple.

And I've just shown that you're not bright enough to realize you've
referenced one report by one analyst as if it were nine.

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From: jollyro...@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:12 UTC

On 2023-03-27, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <tvs6vk$3887t$1@dont-email.me>, Nil
><rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Apple put cheap boards & separators and cheaper smaller batteries to lower
>> cost (for Apple) around the iPhone 12 time frame and then Apple got hungry
>> and kept it cheap for battery components in the later iPhones after that.
>
> that is absolutely false.

He's basing it on a *rumor* by an analyst who stated that he believes
Apple "will reduce the number of rigid-flex battery board layers and
squeeze active cell components", which doesn't mean the board layers are
inferior in construction, nor that the batteries would necessarily have
reduced performance or capacity:

<https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/08/21/apple-to-offset-cost-of-5g-iphone-components-with-cheaper-battery-tech>

He used the words "Apple cheaped out" in order to suggest Apple's
putting out crap batteries, which is not what the rumor claims, and more
importantly has no actual evidence to back it up.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:13 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-27 14:51, Nil wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
>> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>>
>>> A simple example of this "documentation" would have served better
>>> than all that verbiage.
>>
>> I wanted to show everyone how you are ignorant of everything about
>> Apple.
>
> And I've just shown that you're not bright enough to realize you've
> reference one report by one analyst as if it were nine.

Not only that, but it's just a rumor from an analyst who didn't say
Apple was using inferior batteries, but that he believes Apple "will
reduce the number of rigid-flex battery board layers and squeeze active
cell components into a smaller area".

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:17 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad:
>
>>> And STILL you don't provide a shred of this "news" you claim exists.
>>
>> That's because it doesn't exist.
>
> Oh, it exists.

Nope. All you found was a rumor from an analyst that claimed he believed
Apple would "reduce the number of rigid-flex battery board layers and
squeeze active cell components into a smaller area". Nothing in this
rumor claimed Apple would use inferior batteries, and the rumor hasn't
been actually verified to be true.

> It was well documented.

Nope.

> It was big news when it came out

Rumors aren't news.

> Apple couldn't deny it.

Apple doesn't affirm or deny rumors.

> Because it's true.

Nope, it's a baseless rumor.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:20 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> On 2023-03-27 14:26, Nil wrote:
>> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> wrote in
>> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>>
>>> "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence."
>>
>> How about normal claims require normal evidence which is that it's
>> already well documented because it's true & everyone but you knows
>> this.
>>
>> It's a toss up if Alan Baker or Jolly Roger or nospam is more
>> ignorant than Alan Browne, which I wanted to point out because if the
>> four of them left this newsgroup, it would approach the normality of
>> other Usenet newsgroups.
>>
>> Everyone knows, but the iKooks, what Apple did...
>
> So what you really have is ONE report by ONE analyst...
>
> ...who is far from all-knowing.

It's a rumor. The rumor didn't state Apple would use inferior batteries
- just a reduction in rigid-flex battery board layers to squeeze active
cell components into a smaller area. And there's no actual evidence of
what the rumor did claim.

>> If they iKooks this newsgroup, it would approach normalcy of other
>> groups.
>
> Notice also that Arlen has added a new posting nym.

He's been using this one for a while, but yes.

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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:21 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Nil <rednoise9@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 27 Mar 2023, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote in
> misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.mobile.ipad,comp.sys.mac.advocacy:
>
>> Still waiting for your to prove it's actually happened.
>
> You were provided the links.

Links to an analyst claiming he believed something might happen aren't
proof of something actually happening, child.

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Re: Recommended cycling/walking app

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From: jollyro...@pobox.com (Jolly Roger)
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Subject: Re: Recommended cycling/walking app
Date: 27 Mar 2023 23:22:17 GMT
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 by: Jolly Roger - Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:22 UTC

On 2023-03-27, Andy Burnelli <nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
> Jolly Roger wrote:
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>> The FACT is the OP asked for an *iOS* cycle/walking app, and you're
>> here blabbing about how Android is supposedly superior.
>
> And yet, I trolled about Android in response.

Yep.

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