VMS Software Inc. is very pleased to announce the latest release of the VSI
OpenVMS Integrity and
Alpha versions of the VSI SSL111-V0101-1N-1 kits, which are now available for
download from
VMS Software Inc. These updated kits are available for use on both Itanium based
and Alpha based OpenVMS systems running OpenVMS I64 V8.4-1H1 and later, as well
as OpenVMS AXP V8.4-2L1 and V8.4-2L2.

This is OpenSSL V3, I believe. Good to see VSI keeping more current than in the
past.

Kudos ...

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Vanderbilt, PA 15486

On 4/20/2022 9:28 PM, Dave Froble wrote:
> VMS Software Inc. is very pleased to announce the latest release of the
> VSI OpenVMS Integrity and
> Alpha versions of the VSI SSL111-V0101-1N-1 kits, which are now
> available for download from
> VMS Software Inc. These updated kits are available for use on both
> Itanium based and Alpha based OpenVMS systems running OpenVMS I64
> V8.4-1H1 and later, as well as OpenVMS AXP V8.4-2L1 and V8.4-2L2.
>
> This is OpenSSL V3, I believe.  Good to see VSI keeping more current
> than in the past.

The name indicates that it is OpenSSL 1.1.1n with a bug fix for
CVE-2022-0778 which is the one Hoff mentioned in his post
about a bug in the ecliptic asymmetric stuff that can cause
am infinite loop to happen.

Arne

> This is OpenSSL V3, I believe. [...]

Nope. That would look different.

ITS $ prod show prod ssl*
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
VSI I64VMS SSL V1.4-503 Full LP Installed
VSI I64VMS SSL1 V1.0-2UA Full LP Installed
VSI I64VMS SSL111 V1.1-1N Full LP Installed
VSI I64VMS SSL3 V3.0-1 Full LP Installed
------------------------------------ ----------- ---------

"111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
different.

The link at https://vmssoftware.com/ > Products > OpenSSL ,
https://vmssoftware.com/products/openssl/ , is broken.

https://vmssoftware.com/products/ssl111/ works better, but the
"Latest Version 1.1-1m" part seems unlikely. Similar at
https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/ .

And, as usual, the ".ZIPEXE" would benefit a little from "zip -A".
Using your own UnZip:

warning [ITS$DKA0:[prod.VSI.SSL111.SSL111-V0101-1N-1]VSI-I64VMS-SSL111-V0101-1N-
1.ZIPEXE;1]: 220160 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
(attempting to process anyway)

On 2022-04-21, Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
> different.
>

Actually, if you apply alternative math, then they are the same value.

1 + 1 + 1 = 3

Tutorial here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw

Hopefully, we will never get to this stage in real life...

Simon.

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> Actually, if you apply alternative math, then they are the same value.

Actually, it's base-one notation. All the places have the same
value, 1^N. 111(base 1) = 1* (1^0) + 1* (1^1) + 1* (1^2) = 3(base 10).

Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Actually, if you apply alternative math, then they are the same value.
>
> Actually, it's base-one notation. All the places have the same
> value, 1^N. 111(base 1) = 1* (1^0) + 1* (1^1) + 1* (1^2) = 3(base 10).
>

Every number in base that doesn’t contain a 0 (unless you include the
single digits 0 itself), is automatically an a palindrome.

> Every number [...] is automatically an a palindrome.

And you can tell an even number from an odd number just by counting
its digits. With so many interesting properties, you have to wonder why
it's not more widely used.

In article <t3s5pb$2p5$2@dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley <clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>On 2022-04-21, Steven Schweda <sms.antinode@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> "111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
>> different.
>>
>
>Actually, if you apply alternative math, then they are the same value.
>
>1 + 1 + 1 = 3

He say, "one and one and one is three"
Got to be good looking 'cause he's so hard to see

>Tutorial here:
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw
>
>Hopefully, we will never get to this stage in real life...

Too late, we're already there! :(

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I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

On 04/22/22 12:37, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article<t3s5pb$2p5$2@dont-email.me>, Simon Clubley<clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>> On 2022-04-21, Steven Schweda<sms.antinode@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> "111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
>>> different.
>>>
>>
>> Actually, if you apply alternative math, then they are the same value.
>>
>> 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
>
> He say, "one and one and one is three"
> Got to be good looking 'cause he's so hard to see
>

"Come together, right now" ...

There's a man who got the lyrics :-)...

>
>> Tutorial here:
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw
>>
>> Hopefully, we will never get to this stage in real life...
>
> Too late, we're already there! :(
>

On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:34:12 AM UTC-4, Steven Schweda wrote:
> > This is OpenSSL V3, I believe. [...]
>
> Nope. That would look different.
>
> ITS $ prod show prod ssl*
> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
> PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
> VSI I64VMS SSL V1.4-503 Full LP Installed
> VSI I64VMS SSL1 V1.0-2UA Full LP Installed
> VSI I64VMS SSL111 V1.1-1N Full LP Installed
> VSI I64VMS SSL3 V3.0-1 Full LP Installed
> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
>
> "111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
> different.
>
> The link at https://vmssoftware.com/ > Products > OpenSSL ,
> https://vmssoftware.com/products/openssl/ , is broken.
>
> https://vmssoftware.com/products/ssl111/ works better, but the
> "Latest Version 1.1-1m" part seems unlikely. Similar at
> https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/ .
>
> And, as usual, the ".ZIPEXE" would benefit a little from "zip -A".
> Using your own UnZip:
>
> warning [ITS$DKA0:[prod.VSI.SSL111.SSL111-V0101-1N-1]VSI-I64VMS-SSL111-V0101-1N-
> 1.ZIPEXE;1]: 220160 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
> (attempting to process anyway)

While I am no expert in this area (is anyone?), be aware of the fact that the organization behind OpenSSL is currently maintaining two product streams.

1) OpenSSL-1 is the product everyone should be using now
2) OpenSSL-3 is a product which will be targeted at FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standards)
https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/22/OpenSSL3-fips-submission/

I have no clue as to whether these streams will ever merge

Neil Rieck
Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
https://neilrieck.net/OpenVMS.html

On 4/23/2022 8:20 AM, Neil Rieck wrote:
> On Thursday, April 21, 2022 at 12:34:12 AM UTC-4, Steven Schweda wrote:
>>> This is OpenSSL V3, I believe. [...]
>>
>> Nope. That would look different.
>>
>> ITS $ prod show prod ssl*
>> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
>> PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
>> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
>> VSI I64VMS SSL V1.4-503 Full LP Installed
>> VSI I64VMS SSL1 V1.0-2UA Full LP Installed
>> VSI I64VMS SSL111 V1.1-1N Full LP Installed
>> VSI I64VMS SSL3 V3.0-1 Full LP Installed
>> ------------------------------------ ----------- ---------
>>
>> "111" and "3" might look similar in some sense, but they're
>> different.
>>
>> The link at https://vmssoftware.com/ > Products > OpenSSL ,
>> https://vmssoftware.com/products/openssl/ , is broken.
>>
>> https://vmssoftware.com/products/ssl111/ works better, but the
>> "Latest Version 1.1-1m" part seems unlikely. Similar at
>> https://vmssoftware.com/products/list/ .
>>
>> And, as usual, the ".ZIPEXE" would benefit a little from "zip -A".
>> Using your own UnZip:
>>
>> warning [ITS$DKA0:[prod.VSI.SSL111.SSL111-V0101-1N-1]VSI-I64VMS-SSL111-V0101-1N-
>> 1.ZIPEXE;1]: 220160 extra bytes at beginning or within zipfile
>> (attempting to process anyway)
>
> While I am no expert in this area (is anyone?), be aware of the fact that the organization behind OpenSSL is currently maintaining two product streams.
>
> 1) OpenSSL-1 is the product everyone should be using now
> 2) OpenSSL-3 is a product which will be targeted at FIPS (Federal Information Processing Standards)
> https://www.openssl.org/blog/blog/2021/09/22/OpenSSL3-fips-submission/
>
> I have no clue as to whether these streams will ever merge
>
> Neil Rieck
> Waterloo, Ontario, Canada.
> https://neilrieck.net/OpenVMS.html
>

Not sure why I was thinking the latest from VSI was the OpenSSL-3 that you
mentioned. Perhaps wishful thinking.

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Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc. E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com
DFE Ultralights, Inc.
170 Grimplin Road
Vanderbilt, PA 15486

> [...] I am no expert in this area [...]

I agree. I'd advise sticking with the actual OpenSSL documentation,
and avoiding non-expert summaries.

https://www.openssl.org/docs/

> 1) OpenSSL-1 is the product everyone should be using now
> 2) OpenSSL-3 is a product which will be targeted at FIPS (Federal
> Information Processing Standards)

I doubt that either of those statements is true.