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* Gravitational waves + Virussesskybuck2000
+* Re: Gravitational waves + Virussesrobf...@gmail.com
|`- Re: Gravitational waves + VirussesDavid Brown
`* Re: Gravitational waves + VirussesMitchAlsup
 `* Re: Gravitational waves + VirussesDavid Brown
  `* Re: Gravitational waves + VirussesMitchAlsup
   `- Re: Gravitational waves + VirussesEricP

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Gravitational waves seem to be real.

Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.

This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space ! :P

This is something nice to simulate and calculation on a computer ? Maybe it can be proven to be possible or not possible ? ;)

Bye,
Skybuck.

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Subject: Re: Gravitational waves + Virusses
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 by: robf...@gmail.com - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 04:58 UTC

On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 6:42:44 PM UTC-5, skybuck2000 wrote:
> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
>
> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
>
> This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space ! :P
>
> This is something nice to simulate and calculation on a computer ? Maybe it can be proven to be possible or not possible ? ;)
>
> Bye,
> Skybuck.

There is no such thing as gravity. Gravity is a pseudo force. It is just rotational inertia. It appears to be an inward acting force, but actually is outward acting. It is the sum of all the rotational inertia vectors that cause it to appear the way it does.

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 by: David Brown - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 09:31 UTC

On 07/12/2021 05:58, robf...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 6:42:44 PM UTC-5, skybuck2000
> wrote:
>> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
>>

True.

>> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
>>

False.

>> This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space !
>> :P

False.

>>
>> This is something nice to simulate and calculation on a computer ?

No.

>> Maybe it can be proven to be possible or not possible ? ;)

It is so obviously nonsense that explicitly proving it is as pointless
as writing a maths paper that proves 1 + 1 does not equal 537.

>>
>> Bye, Skybuck.
>
> There is no such thing as gravity. Gravity is a pseudo force. It is
> just rotational inertia. It appears to be an inward acting force, but
> actually is outward acting. It is the sum of all the rotational
> inertia vectors that cause it to appear the way it does.
>

The OP here does not know anything about gravity beyond "it's what makes
bricks fall when you drop them". He has a long-standing habit of taking
random bits of science news that are completely incomprehensible to him,
and combining them with conspiracy theories to make new gibberish posts.

Gravity is a /real/ force - but it is certainly possible (and often
useful to physicists) to view it as a geometric effect from warped
space-time. Like many things in physics, such as wave-particle duality,
it is both at the same time. Different viewpoints are more useful in
different circumstances.

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On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:42:44 PM UTC-6, skybuck2000 wrote:
> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
<
True
>
> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
<
Gravitational waves distort the fabric of space-time. A strong GW distorts
space time on the order of the size of the nucleus of a hydrogen atom.
<
Even the smallest virii are thousands of times larger and hundreds of
thousands of times heavier.
>
> This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space ! :P
<
Ludicrous
>

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 by: David Brown - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 19:11 UTC

On 07/12/2021 19:06, MitchAlsup wrote:
> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:42:44 PM UTC-6, skybuck2000 wrote:
>> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
> <
> True
>>
>> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
> <
> Gravitational waves distort the fabric of space-time. A strong GW distorts
> space time on the order of the size of the nucleus of a hydrogen atom.
> <

My understanding was that the big waves distorted the paths of the LIGO
measurement laser paths by the order of the size of a hydrogen nucleus -
after the laser had bounced back and forth along the 4 km tunnel
thousands of times. But no matter what, we are not talking about large
distortions - rather, we are talking about some astounding feats of
engineering to be able to measure them.

> Even the smallest virii are thousands of times larger and hundreds of
> thousands of times heavier.

(The plural of "virus" is "viruses". The Latin word "virus" is a mass
noun, and has no plural. Of course, the OP's spelling "virusses" is
even wronger :-) )

>>
>> This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space ! :P
> <
> Ludicrous
>>
>

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 by: MitchAlsup - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:18 UTC

On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
> On 07/12/2021 19:06, MitchAlsup wrote:
> > On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:42:44 PM UTC-6, skybuck2000 wrote:
> >> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
> > <
> > True
> >>
> >> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
> > <
> > Gravitational waves distort the fabric of space-time. A strong GW distorts
> > space time on the order of the size of the nucleus of a hydrogen atom.
> > <
> My understanding was that the big waves distorted the paths of the LIGO
> measurement laser paths by the order of the size of a hydrogen nucleus -
> after the laser had bounced back and forth along the 4 km tunnel
> thousands of times. But no matter what, we are not talking about large
> distortions - rather, we are talking about some astounding feats of
> engineering to be able to measure them.
<
a) the beam bounces back and forth 300 times.
b) the resolution of LIGO isa small fraction of the diameter of a proton
.....(say 1/10 to as good as 1/50 proton diameters)
<
> > Even the smallest virii are thousands of times larger and hundreds of
> > thousands of times heavier.
> (The plural of "virus" is "viruses". The Latin word "virus" is a mass
> noun, and has no plural. Of course, the OP's spelling "virusses" is
> even wronger :-) )
> >>
> >> This could mean that these virusses are weapons of war from space ! :P
> > <
> > Ludicrous
> >>
> >

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 by: EricP - Tue, 7 Dec 2021 21:50 UTC

MitchAlsup wrote:
> On Tuesday, December 7, 2021 at 1:11:31 PM UTC-6, David Brown wrote:
>> On 07/12/2021 19:06, MitchAlsup wrote:
>>> On Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 5:42:44 PM UTC-6, skybuck2000 wrote:
>>>> Gravitational waves seem to be real.
>>> <
>>> True
>>>> Thus perhaps virusses are propelled by Gravitational Waves.
>>> <
>>> Gravitational waves distort the fabric of space-time. A strong GW distorts
>>> space time on the order of the size of the nucleus of a hydrogen atom.
>>> <
>> My understanding was that the big waves distorted the paths of the LIGO
>> measurement laser paths by the order of the size of a hydrogen nucleus -
>> after the laser had bounced back and forth along the 4 km tunnel
>> thousands of times. But no matter what, we are not talking about large
>> distortions - rather, we are talking about some astounding feats of
>> engineering to be able to measure them.
> <
> a) the beam bounces back and forth 300 times.
> b) the resolution of LIGO isa small fraction of the diameter of a proton
> .....(say 1/10 to as good as 1/50 proton diameters)

Wikipedia says 1/1000 the width of a proton.

But they also have to extract a waveform signal from that with some
signal to noise ratio, so they need some accuracy beyond just detection.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_wave#Introduction

"... the effects when measured on Earth are predicted to be very small,
having strains of less than 1 part in 10^20.
....
The most sensitive detector accomplished the task possessing a sensitivity
measurement of about one part in 5×10^22 (as of 2012) provided by the
LIGO and VIRGO observatories."

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