Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021

For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.

Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>
> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.

That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>
>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>
> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>
Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.

Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."

Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
does it make...

--
Q: How often do planes crash?
A: Just once...

On 10/5/2021 1:2 PM, Wade Garrett wrote:
> They're all fast as hell.
> What difference does it make...

Click on the map for specific test results in a city or rural area.

City:
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/atlanta
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/austin
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/baltimore
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/boston
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/charlotte
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/chicago
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/dallas
_Verizon_ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/denver
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/detroit
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/houston
*AT&T* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/indianapolis
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/kansas-city
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/las-vegas
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/los-angeles
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/miami
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/new-orleans
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/new-york
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/oklahoma-city
_Verizon_ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/philadelphia
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/phoenix
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/portland
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/raleigh
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/san-diego
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/san-francisco
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/salt-lake-city
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/seattle
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/st-louis
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/tampa
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/tucson
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/washington-dc

Rural:
*T-Mobile* https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-northeast
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-southeast
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-north-central
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-south-central
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-northwest
/AT&T/ https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021/rural-southwest

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Ken Hart
kwhart1@frontier.com

NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:
> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>
> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>

This is no surprise to those of us who have T-Mobile 5G service. I have
been reporting this for the past several months. sms will not like this
however since it doesn’t agree with his narrative.

The fastest speeds I’ve gotten so far are 641 down and 19.7 up.

On 10/5/2021 8:41 AM, badgolferman wrote:
> NewsKrawler <newskrawl@krawl.org> wrote:
>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>
>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>
>
> This is no surprise to those of us who have T-Mobile 5G service. I have
> been reporting this for the past several months. sms will not like this
> however since it doesn’t agree with his narrative.

LOL, I never argued about 5G speeds, I simply pointed out the
significantly poorer geographic coverage of T-Mobile. No one disputes
that fact.

You can compare coverage differences using the FCC mapping site at
<https://fcc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=6c1b2e73d9d749cdb7bc88a0d1bdd25b>

Or you can use the Rootmetrics web app at
<https://webcoveragemap.rootmetrics.com/en-US>.

Here are two examples:
<https://i.imgur.com/fuP3G3w.png>
<https://i.imgur.com/jAWKsbC.png>

On 10/5/2021 6:02 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:
> On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>
>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural
>>> regions
>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising
>>> winner.
>>
>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal
>> evidence.
>>
> Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.
>
> Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
> do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."
>
> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
> does it make...

Exactly.

What really matters is geographic coverage, not minor speed differences.
T-Mobile makes a very big deal about its low-band 5G in order to divert
scrutiny of its coverage issues.

Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
> On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>
>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>
>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>>
> Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.
>
> Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
> do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."
>
> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
> does it make...

Only one of them is remembered.

In article <sjhtpj$4lk$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> > This is no surprise to those of us who have T-Mobile 5G service. I have
> > been reporting this for the past several months. sms will not like this
> > however since it doesn¹t agree with his narrative.
>
> LOL, I never argued about 5G speeds, I simply pointed out the
> significantly poorer geographic coverage of T-Mobile. No one disputes
> that fact.

many industry surveys and t-mobile customers dispute that fact.

> You can compare coverage differences using the FCC mapping site at

maps are not reliable.

In article <sjhtsj$4lk$2@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> What really matters is geographic coverage, not minor speed differences.

there aren't any significant issues with t-mobile coverage.

> T-Mobile makes a very big deal about its low-band 5G in order to divert
> scrutiny of its coverage issues.

nope. they make a big deal about it because it is better than their
competitors.

On 2021-10-05 02:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>
>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>
> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.

Given their test method and presented data it is certainly not anecdotal.

--
"...there are many humorous things in this world; among them the white
man's notion that he is less savage than the other savages."
-Samuel Clemens

Am 05.10.21 um 19:16 schrieb Alan Browne:
> On 2021-10-05 02:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>
>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>
>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>
> Given their test method and presented data it is certainly not anecdotal.

It certainly is.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

Am 05.10.21 um 17:41 schrieb badgolferman:
> The fastest speeds I’ve gotten so far are 641 down and 19.7 up.

This is extremely bad. Mobile networks are symmetric. 19.7 up is
early-4G-style.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 10/5/2021 10:16 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2021-10-05 02:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>
>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural
>>> regions
>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising
>>> winner.
>>
>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal
>> evidence.
>
> Given their test method and presented data it is certainly not anecdotal.

Correct. Joerg is wrong of course™.

Remember, they were testing speed, not coverage. T-Mobile has made a big
effort to roll out their low-band 5G service on their existing 4G LTE cells.

Verizon had sufficiently high 4G LTE speeds that low-band 5G was a lower
priority. Verizon is making a big push with mmWave 5G in order to enter
the home broadband and IOT markets, probably because their market
research has shown that few customers really care about the difference
between 4G LTE and 5G low-band speeds.

Look at <https://www.tomsguide.com/features/5g-vs-4g>. T-Mobile's 5G
speed is about 6% faster than Verizon's 5G speed, but Verizon's LTE
speed is 68% faster than T-Mobile's LTE speed. T-Mobile's 5G speed is
33% faster than Verizon's LTE speed.

T-Mobile and AT&T needed 5G a lot more urgently than Verizon because
their LTE speeds were so slow, even though practically speaking, going
from 36.3 Mb/s (T-Mobile LTE) to 71 Mb/s (T-Mobile 5G) would not be
noticed by many users except if they are running a speed test or
downloading some very large files.

The big advantage of 5G, for the carriers, is an increase in capacity.
For the end-users, in capacity-constrained areas, 5G users free up LTE
capacity so even those without 5G phones benefit, without the power
consumption impact of 5G.

In terms of marketing, T-Mobile can boast about having the most 5G
coverage, while not having to talk about total coverage.

Am 05.10.21 um 19:41 schrieb sms:
> On 10/5/2021 10:16 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
>> On 2021-10-05 02:51, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>>
>>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural
>>>> regions
>>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising
>>>> winner.
>>>
>>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal
>>> evidence.
>>
>> Given their test method and presented data it is certainly not anecdotal.
>
> Correct. Joerg is wrong of course™.

You do not understand mobile networks.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

sms wrote:
> Remember, they were testing speed, not coverage.

On speed alone, Verizon won in only 2 of 30 representative cities, and
Verizon lost in each of 6 large sections of the country's rural regions.

AT&T won in only 4 of 30 cities and in 5 of the 6 large rural regions.

T-Mobile won in 24 of 30 cities but only in 1 large rural region
(the rural northeast).

By speed alone, Verizon is looking like a really bad choice.
Given Verizon loses big on speed, they'd better have something else.

Maybe they cost a lot less at least?

On 10/5/21 12:19 PM, Chris wrote:
> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
>> On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>>
>>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>>
>>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>>>
>> Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.
>>
>> Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
>> do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."
>>
>> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
>> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
>> does it make...
>
> Only one of them is remembered.
>
That is a sporting event and if you participate, the idea is to win.

Here, we're talking about effin' cell phone service fer cryin' out loud.

Coverage, reliability and cost are the meaningful differentiators...not
a gazillionth of a second faster load on your Facebook page ;-)

--
There are two distinct classes of men in the nation: those who pay
taxes, and those who receive and live upon the taxes
- Thomas Paine, 1792

On 05/10/2021 11:41, sms wrote:
> Look at <https://www.tomsguide.com/features/5g-vs-4g>. T-Mobile's 5G
> speed is about 6% faster than Verizon's 5G speed, but Verizon's LTE
> speed is 68% faster than T-Mobile's LTE speed. T-Mobile's 5G speed is
> 33% faster than Verizon's LTE speed.
>
> T-Mobile and AT&T needed 5G a lot more urgently than Verizon because
> their LTE speeds were so slow, even though practically speaking, going
> from 36.3 Mb/s (T-Mobile LTE) to 71 Mb/s (T-Mobile 5G) would not be
> noticed by many users except if they are running a speed test or
> downloading some very large files.

Why would anyone care about the band more than they care about the speed?
I'm confused by your explanation because your first paragraph above says
that the lower band Verizon speeds are faster than the lower band T-Mobile
speeds and then in the next sentence you say that a doubling of speed
wouldn't be noticed.

It's more likely the other way around, isn't it?

Aren't people more likely to care a lot less about the band their phone
users (which they can barely see at the top of the phone) versus the actual
speeds they get?
--
Regards,
Martin Brown

Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> asked
> Coverage, reliability and cost are the meaningful differentiators

Without facts, those are just meaningless words from you, Mr. Garrett.
All the apologists own the brain of small children who own no facts.

FACTS:
Let's compare actual plans by the facts... Mine is T-Mobile.
<https://i.postimg.cc/L6dFGXVd/tmopromo03.jpg>
<https://i.postimg.cc/nhpbcP50/tmopromo04.jpg>

*Cost first:*
I pay about $25/line per month (plus taxes) for a family plan.
That covers unlimited everything (calls, text/mms & data).
Plus I got a handful of _free_ Android Samsung Galaxy A325G phones.
Plus a few iPads have the free 200MB/month SIM for life.
And I recently bought also an iPhone 12 mini (at about half price).

*Coverage second:*
I live in the boonies and my coverage was shown to be just fine.
When I travel in the USA, my coverage has been just fine.
When I travel to Europe, the free roaming covers me just fine.
(In Europe everything is unlimited except calls are 20 cents/minute.)

*Reliability third:*
My signal never disappears.
I call them and I get what they call "my own team of experts."
I never am stuck with conversing with a machine.

How does your plan compare with that cost, coverage, & reliability.
How does anyone's plan compare with T-Mobile as shown above?
--
I've had all three carriers, sequentially, over time, and their reliability
is about the same, as was their coverage - but T-Mobile cost was the lowest.

On 10/5/2021 11:45 AM, Wade Garrett wrote:

<snip>

> That is a sporting event and if you participate, the idea is to win.
>
> Here, we're talking about effin' cell phone service fer cryin' out loud.
>
> Coverage, reliability and cost are the meaningful differentiators...not
> a gazillionth of a second faster load on your Facebook page ;-)

For most people that is true. However when a carrier's only
differentiator is slightly more Mb/s that's all they really have to talk
about, so they avoid talking about coverage.

The consumers that lack the critical thinking skills to evaluate
coverage and reliability are the legal prey of companies that talk only
about speed. You also often see people who consider only whether their
carrier works where they live or work and who don't look at coverage in
places that they are likely to travel to (or through).

---------------------------------------------------------------
“It's best not to argue with people who are determined to lose.
Once you've told them about a superior alternative, your
responsibility is fulfilled and you can allow them to lose in
peace.” ― Mark Crispin, inventor of the iMAP e-mail protocol
---------------------------------------------------------------

sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> asked
> The consumers that lack the critical thinking skills to evaluate
> coverage and reliability are the legal prey of companies that talk only
> about speed.

Am I getting a good deal or a terrible deal or the same deal as you get?

I'm not sure if I'm one of those customers who lack the critical thinking
skills you speak of, but I consider myself relatively intelligent (I have
very high test scores on every standardized test I ever took, for example).

I chose T-Mobile in the Santa Cruz mountains, which, admittedly, are in the
boonies (we have no cable, no water, no sewage, no gas for example). They
don't want to add infrastructure so we're zoned for 40 acres [16.2 hectares,
1.742e+6 sq feet] which means if you have 79 acres [32 hectares, 3.441x10^6
sq feet], you can still put only one house on that lot.

The only services we have are power and electrical (and phone but nobody has
a landline anymore) where it all must be underground from the last pole on
the street the house where nothing can be built within 100 feet of the road.

Given the fact I'm in the boonies, my numbers will likely be lower than
youers, where this is real time ad hoc signal strength data from my home.
<https://i.postimg.cc/xCbVQ2pj/signal02.jpg>

Roughly, when I turn off the internal towers inside my house, I get in the
mid to high negative nineties on cellular signal strength (dBm).

Here is real time technical data on signal speed at home on my phone (Mbps).
<https://i.postimg.cc/C5vgmtRd/speedtest15.jpg>
Roughly, when I'm on 5G, I get around 100Mbps to about 300Mbps speeds.

When I'm on LTE, it seems to be about half the 5G speeds (they fluctuate).
<https://i.postimg.cc/pdXF4Mtz/speedtest03.jpg>

The data is "unlimited" and it never stops, but T-Mobile says that they can
throttle if I go over 50GB/month on any one "congested tower", but that's
not going to happen anytime soon (I use about 1GB to 3GB a month lately).

The key point is that I'm miles from any carriers' cell tower (maybe ten by
road but maybe only four or so by LOS) so my signal should be as bad as
anyone's signal would be for a residential (but definitely rural) area.

Luckily the phone can roam for free as long as it can see any compatible
tower, whether I'm in the USA or traveling in Europe (I didn't check Canada
or Mexico).

I forgot to mention the free tethering/hotspotting (they call it the same
thing even as they're quite different to me) is only 5GB/month in the USA
and 0GB/month in Europe.

Overall, I think that explains my situation where I wonder if I'm one of
those people you speak of who don't evaluate the entire picture (based on my
needs).

How does your mobile plan & coverage & speed compare with mine?
Am I getting a good deal or a terrible deal or the same deal as you get?
--
Note I live in paradise so I don't vacation elsewhere as I can just hike in
the mountains and that's something most people have to drive to get to.

Am 05.10.21 um 20:45 schrieb Wade Garrett:
> On 10/5/21 12:19 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
>>> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
>>> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
>>> does it make...
>>
>> Only one of them is remembered.
>>
> That is a sporting event and if you participate, the idea is to win.
>
> Here, we're talking about effin' cell phone service fer cryin' out loud.
>
> Coverage, reliability and cost are the meaningful differentiators...not
> a gazillionth of a second faster load on your Facebook page ;-)

*FACK*!
Like small kids: Mine is bigger than yours ...
Speed is also a differentiator but not an important one for privat users
in the wild. There are simply no applications that depend on speeds that
are possible with LTE or 5G.

--
De gustibus non est disputandum

On 10/5/21 2:59 PM, Robin Goodfellow wrote:
> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> asked
>> Coverage, reliability and cost are the meaningful differentiators
>
> Without facts, those are just meaningless words from you, Mr. Garrett.
> All the apologists own the brain of small children who own no facts.
>
> FACTS:
> Let's compare actual plans by the facts... Mine is T-Mobile.
> <https://i.postimg.cc/L6dFGXVd/tmopromo03.jpg>
> <https://i.postimg.cc/nhpbcP50/tmopromo04.jpg>
>
> *Cost first:*
> I pay about $25/line per month (plus taxes) for a family plan.
> That covers unlimited everything (calls, text/mms & data).
> Plus I got a handful of _free_ Android Samsung Galaxy A325G phones.
> Plus a few iPads have the free 200MB/month SIM for life.
> And I recently bought also an iPhone 12 mini (at about half price).
>
> *Coverage second:*
> I live in the boonies and my coverage was shown to be just fine.
> When I travel in the USA, my coverage has been just fine.
> When I travel to Europe, the free roaming covers me just fine.
> (In Europe everything is unlimited except calls are 20 cents/minute.)
>
> *Reliability third:*
> My signal never disappears.
> I call them and I get what they call "my own team of experts."
> I never am stuck with conversing with a machine.
>
> How does your plan compare with that cost, coverage, & reliability.
> How does anyone's plan compare with T-Mobile as shown above?
>
You're missing the point of my post Robbie- that small differences among
the carriers data download speeds are essentially meaningless...given
that they're all at lest pretty good...and that the other three carrier
attributes iI mentioned are the meaningful differentiators.

I was not writing a treatise of how to select a carrier- which is what
you appear compelled to be doing here.

Lighten up, dude ;-)

--
I see what the problem is here. I'm talking in English and you're
listening in dumbass.

Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
> On 10/5/21 12:19 PM, Chris wrote:
>> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
>>> On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>>>
>>>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>>>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>>>
>>>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>>>>
>>> Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.
>>>
>>> Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
>>> do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."
>>>
>>> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
>>> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
>>> does it make...
>>
>> Only one of them is remembered.
>>
> That is a sporting event and if you participate, the idea is to win.

Exactly.

> Here, we're talking about effin' cell phone service fer cryin' out loud.

Right. So why make an analogy to the olympics, then? Your analogy didn't
work.

On 10/6/21 4:18 AM, Chris wrote:
> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
>> On 10/5/21 12:19 PM, Chris wrote:
>>> Wade Garrett <Wade@cooler.net> wrote:
>>>> On 10/5/21 2:51 AM, Joerg Lorenz wrote:
>>>>> Am 05.10.21 um 08:38 schrieb NewsKrawler:
>>>>>> Fastest Mobile Networks 2021
>>>>>> https://www.pcmag.com/news/fastest-mobile-networks-2021
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For our 12th annual test, we drove more than 10,000 miles, speed-testing
>>>>>> AT&T, T-Mobile, and Verizon 4G and 5G in cities, towns, and rural regions
>>>>>> all over the US. We found a radically new landscape−and a surprising winner.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is utter bullshit and at best a tiny little bit of anecdotal evidence.
>>>>>
>>>> Yeah well it all doesn't matter anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Everybody's network is plenty fast enough to easily handle any task you
>>>> do on a little screen. It's all marketing BS and "We're Number One-itis."
>>>>
>>>> Like the Olympics- eight guys finish the race separated by only a couple
>>>> of hundredths of a second. They're all fast as hell. What difference
>>>> does it make...
>>>
>>> Only one of them is remembered.
>>>
>> That is a sporting event and if you participate, the idea is to win.
>
> Exactly.
>
>> Here, we're talking about effin' cell phone service fer cryin' out loud.
>
> Right. So why make an analogy to the olympics, then? Your analogy didn't
> work.
>
>
Actually, it does. The point I made- and which you missed- is that
people make a big deal over small differences among similarly well
qualified/high performing entities and need a "winner".

I used the Olympics (all the athletes are top notch).

But I could have just as easily used the Miss America Pageant or Dallas
Cowboys Cheerleaders tryout finalists (all hottie babes) or maybe the
best shotgun from a collection of fine 19th century English double
barrels (they're all beautifully engraved works of mechanical art) or
maybe the best Old Masters painting in the Metropolitan Museum or Louvre
collections.

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