In article <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham
<bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <598ae7e8ebcharles@candehope.me.uk>, charles
> <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> > In article <5ddae28a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman
> > <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > In message <598addada9charles@candehope.me.uk> charles
> > > <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> > > > In article <f959db8a59.John@rickman.argonet..co.uk>, John Rickman
> > > > <rickman@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >> In message <be8f938259.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk> Nick
> > > >> Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:

> > > >>> One oddity - I have no problem with measuring (route) distances
> > > >>> in Km rather than miles, but I still think in terms of miles per
> > > >>> hour for speeds. Despite going decimal, the UK never changed road
> > > >>> speed signage or speedometers to KPH.

> > > >> The only problem with kilometres is the way the word is usually
> > > >> pronounced now-a-days. I can understand Americans saying
> > > >> killom-eter, but a kilo-metre is not an odometer, a tachometer,
> > > >> speedometer, milometer, nor any other instrument for measuring
> > > >> things.

> > > >> As an aside the allotment plots in Gaydon village are measured in
> > > >> fractions of an acre using rods.

> > > > I went round RAF Gaydon fro scholl in the mid 1950s.

> > > You may have seen these then
> > > http://www.gaydon.org.uk/photos/oldpix/raf.jpg

> > > John
> > Not in that quantity, but we went inside one and into a Vulcan flight
> > simulator

> I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere probably
> Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague. I would have
> been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s. My memory says
> all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite the 'Victor' with
> its ink pen nose.

> Bob.

RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular) converted from
propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a Bomber base.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
> converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
> Bomber base.

So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?

It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't have
thought.

I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?

Bob.

In article <598b4ea855bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

> > RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
> > converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
> > Bomber base.

> So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?

most of the operational airfields weer on the eastern side of the country

> It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't have
> thought.

> I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?

Anything might have happened then,

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In message <598b4ea855bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
> charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
>
> > RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular) converted
> > from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a Bomber base.
>
> So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?
>
> It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't have thought.
>
> I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?

Yes. I remember going to several of those in my childhood. I also
remember Vulcans scrambling - one of the showpieces of each BoB day.

In my case it was probably RAF Finningley and RAF Scampton.

Imagine the security implications of thousands of members of the public
on an operational RAF base today!

David

In article <c4bf5a8b59.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM>,
David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> wrote:
> In message <598b4ea855bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > In article <598b45db2bcharles@candehope.me.uk>,
> > charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > RAF Gaydon was a training base, where pilots (in particular)
> > > converted from propellor driven machines to jets, It was not a
> > > Bomber base.
> >
> > So if I didn't see the scramble there, where might I have been?
> >
> > It was a day out, so not too far from the midlands I wouldn't
> > have thought.
> >
> > I think it was battle of Britain day does that make sense?

> Yes. I remember going to several of those in my childhood. I also
> remember Vulcans scrambling - one of the showpieces of each BoB day.

> In my case it was probably RAF Finningley and RAF Scampton.

> Imagine the security implications of thousands of members of the
> public on an operational RAF base today!

Thanks for that.

It's hard to remember it was so long ago. I remember we had to travel
further than we usually did each year to see the v bombers scramble.
I have it in my head that the journey was south from our home in west
mid.

I call sitting on my father's shoulders and seeing flares go up I
think, followed by men running to the Bombers. Later seeing them rush
by on the runway and then up into the sky. Awesome, tremendous.

I'm pretty sure the scramble I saw had one of each of the v bombers.

Bob.

In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
> probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
> I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
> My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
> the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.

Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)

--
Nick Roberts tigger @ orpheusinternet.co.uk

Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which
can be adequately explained by stupidity.

In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>,
Nick Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
> > probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
> > I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
> > My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
> > the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.

> Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
> Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
> level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
> it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)

The only year I went to the Farnborough Air Show, the RAF aerobatic team
were flying Lightnings. They took off vertically togther just about level
with our viewpoint. A bit more noise from 18 (or possibly 24) Avons on
reheat than from 4 Olympus

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick Roberts
<tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
> > probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
> > I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
> > My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
> > the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.

> Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
> Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
> level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
> it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)

There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s Farnborough
show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks, Harriers, SkyVAN
and The Red Arrows are there though. https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q

In article <598ccfc450tim@invalid.org.uk>,
Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick Roberts
> <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
> > <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > > I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
> > > probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
> > > I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
> > > My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
> > > the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.

> > Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
> > Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
> > level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
> > it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)

> There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s Farnborough
> show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks, Harriers, SkyVAN
> and The Red Arrows are there though. https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q

probaby in 1977, I has a Vulcan pass overhead at a very low altitude. it
had just banked to avoid hitting a red/white Decca Navigator mast. Scary.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

On 17/11/2021 14:49, charles wrote:
> In article <598ccfc450tim@invalid.org.uk>,
> Tim Hill <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
>> In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick Roberts
>> <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
>>> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
>>>> I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
>>>> probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say vague.
>>>> I would have been very young at the time and I would guess early 60s.
>>>> My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my then favourite
>>>> the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
>
>>> Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
>>> Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a low
>>> level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to replace
>>> it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise 8-)
>
>> There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s Farnborough
>> show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks, Harriers, SkyVAN
>> and The Red Arrows are there though. https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q
>
> probaby in 1977, I has a Vulcan pass overhead at a very low altitude. it
> had just banked to avoid hitting a red/white Decca Navigator mast. Scary.

Just to play one-up, I saw a Vulcan with a Concorde engine strapped to
its belly at Farnborough in probably 1966. Now that _was_ noisy. ;-)

In article <sn5e82$138n$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Steve Drain <steve@kappa.me.uk>
wrote:
> On 17/11/2021 14:49, charles wrote:
> > In article <598ccfc450tim@invalid.org.uk>, Tim Hill
> > <tim@invalid.org.uk> wrote:
> >> In article <7b5c5e8c59.tigger@bc63.orpheusinternet.co.uk>, Nick
> >> Roberts <tigger@orpheusinternet.co.uk> wrote:
> >>> In message <598b3bf17bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid> Bob Latham
> >>> <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>>> I have vague memories of my father (ex RAF) taking me somewhere
> >>>> probably Gaydon where we watched a V bomber scramble. As I say
> >>>> vague. I would have been very young at the time and I would guess
> >>>> early 60s. My memory says all 3 V bombers took part including my
> >>>> then favourite the 'Victor' with its ink pen nose.
> >
> >>> Not quite so long, but still last century, I went to the air show at
> >>> Farnborough. One of the more impressive demos was a Vulcan doing a
> >>> low level fly by. Anyone who had a active db metre probably had to
> >>> replace it - I'm not sure the're designed to handle that much noise
> >>> 8-)
> >
> >> There doesn't seem to have been a Vulcan bomber at the 1970s
> >> Farnborough show I had transferred from Super8 to digital. Chinooks,
> >> Harriers, SkyVAN and The Red Arrows are there though.
> >> https://youtu.be/_Sp-keOM31Q
> >
> > probaby in 1977, I has a Vulcan pass overhead at a very low altitude.
> > it had just banked to avoid hitting a red/white Decca Navigator mast.
> > Scary.

> Just to play one-up, I saw a Vulcan with a Concorde engine strapped to
> its belly at Farnborough in probably 1966. Now that _was_ noisy. ;-)

and, before that, there was the Lancaster with a Vulcan engine underneath.
Seen from School, There wasa n EE test airfield a short distance away

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

In article <sn5e82$138n$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Steve Drain
<steve@kappa.me.uk> wrote:

> Just to play one-up, I saw a Vulcan with a Concorde
> engine strapped to its belly at Farnborough in probably
> 1966. Now that _was_ noisy. ;-)

I saw that one too, but at Filton - not Farnborough. And it
was 1966 when I was just approaching my twentieth.

It took off after a ridiculously short run and climbed away
to a thousand feet or so. At about a mile away it turned
through 180 and returned in a shallow dive. It couldn't
have had the throttles wide open on all 5 engines or else
the wings would have come off! However, when it reached the
runway, at about 50', it *did* open up the throttles.

I was stood about 100' from the centre-line and, for just a
few seconds was in that blissful state when all the senses
are saturated and consumed by the immense physicality of
the beast.

Sex? Ha! Just a pale imitation. ;-))

John

--
John
newsmcc@blueyonder.co.uk
j dot mccartney atte blueyonder dot co dot uk