When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
servers currently in operation with the same policies?

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:35:57 -0400, % <pursent1000@qmail.com> spurted out the following:
> When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
> granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
> servers currently in operation with the same policies?

no
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% wrote:
> When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
> granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
> servers currently in operation with the same policies?

Likely the reason Kadaitcha Man always used them.

Snoopy wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:35:57 -0400, % <pursent1000@qmail.com> spurted out the following:
>> When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
>> granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
>> servers currently in operation with the same policies?
>
> no
>

AIOE was good but went tits up. It only let you post to 3 newsgroups but
they didn't censor much if anything.

Am 18.03.2023 um 18:57:00 Uhr schrieb Tony:

> AIOE was good but went tits up. It only let you post to 3 newsgroups
> but they didn't censor much if anything.

Crossposting to many groups is abuse and people will start putting the
entire server in their killfiles, so the admin disabled it.

Tony <Tony@TheDeliKing.ca> wrote:
>Snoopy wrote:
>>Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:35:57 -0400, % <pursent1000@qmail.com> spurted:

>>>When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
>>>granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
>>>servers currently in operation with the same policies?

>>no

>AIOE was good but went tits up. It only let you post to 3 newsgroups but
>they didn't censor much if anything.

I rarely crosspost. Starting a new thread, I've never had a need to
crosspost to more than two groups. In followup, I tend to cut the
crosspost because it's almost never on topic in all groups in the
crosspost.

I truly don't believe you were prevented from expressing your own thoughts
on topic because of the crossposting limitation. No one has a regular
need to crosspost at all.

Each newsgroup is supposed to have a separate audience and discussion is
almost never improved by crossposting versus writing something
specifically on topic for one group's audience and writing something
else specific to the audience of another group, even if the topic of
discussion is similar.

Quite frankly, I crossposted this week because I'd run out of time to
write two separate articles as I normally would. The thread ended up
being dominated by people from one group that was off topic for the
other group but they didn't cut the crosspost.

Crossposting sucks for that reason.

Paolo DID NOT censor you.

On 3/19/23 3:01 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
> Crossposting to many groups is abuse and people will start putting
> the entire server in their killfiles, so the admin disabled it.

Some scroll~>skim by comments

- "many" is subjective
- There are legitimate use cases for cross posting. Especially when
Followup-To is set to a single group.
- Disabling cross posting period is somewhat overkill especially when
the number of groups is less than "many".
- Newsmaster's have the prerogative to configure their news server
however they want to.

I will occasionally cross post a message to multiple (2-4) groups when
I'm not sure which group will receive the best engagement or which is
the best location. I usually set the Followup-To to what I think is the
most likely best group (sometimes 51/49 type ratio).

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Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
>On 3/19/23 3:01 AM, Marco Moock wrote:

>>Crossposting to many groups is abuse and people will start putting
>>the entire server in their killfiles, so the admin disabled it.

>Some scroll~>skim by comments

> - "many" is subjective
> - There are legitimate use cases for cross posting. Especially when
>Followup-To is set to a single group.

That's bullshit. That's not how unmoderated Usenet works. The author is
responsible for posting on topic in each of the groups in the crosspost.
He is NOT responsible for how someone posting a followup might crosspost
or not. Followup-To can be ignored by the author of the followup because,
again, he's responsible for what he posts; no one else is. If the author's
followup isn't on topic in each of the newsgroups in the crosspost,
then cut the crosspost.

Followup-To in a discussion thread is used exclusively by hypocrites.

"I'm deliberately posting off topic in this crossposted followup, but I
don't want anyone posting a followup to my article to post off topic."

> - Disabling cross posting period is somewhat overkill especially when
>the number of groups is less than "many".

In the vast majority of cases, two newsgroups in the crosspost is too
many. We're talking about mitigating bad behavior by fuckheads.

> - Newsmaster's have the prerogative to configure their news server
>however they want to.

>I will occasionally cross post a message to multiple (2-4) groups when
>I'm not sure which group will receive the best engagement or which is
>the best location. I usually set the Followup-To to what I think is the
>most likely best group (sometimes 51/49 type ratio).

Or... write an article that's slightly different AND on topic in each of
the newsgroups without crossposting and without setting Followup-To and
you may find that respecting the separate audience in each group will
encourage followups.

It should really occur to you that you have no idea if the person
writing the followup is posting on topic in that newsgroup or if he even
reads it, so trying to force him to post imto a newsgroup he doesn't
read is just wrong.

Four newsgroups in the crosspost? Give me a break. That's not on topic
in each group.

On 3/19/23 12:49, Adam H. Kerman wrote:

hush now baby baby don't you cry

On 19 Mar 2023, "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> posted some
news:tv7hvr$33of0$1@dont-email.me:

> Grant Taylor <gtaylor@tnetconsulting.net> wrote:
>>On 3/19/23 3:01 AM, Marco Moock wrote:
>
>>>Crossposting to many groups is abuse and people will start putting
>>>the entire server in their killfiles, so the admin disabled it.
>
>>Some scroll~>skim by comments
>
>> - "many" is subjective
>> - There are legitimate use cases for cross posting. Especially when
>>Followup-To is set to a single group.
>
> That's bullshit. That's not how unmoderated Usenet works. The author
> is responsible for posting on topic in each of the groups in the
> crosspost. He is NOT responsible for how someone posting a followup
> might crosspost or not. Followup-To can be ignored by the author of
> the followup because, again, he's responsible for what he posts; no
> one else is. If the author's followup isn't on topic in each of the
> newsgroups in the crosspost, then cut the crosspost.

If I'm interested everyone else should be.

> Followup-To in a discussion thread is used exclusively by hypocrites.
>
> "I'm deliberately posting off topic in this crossposted followup, but
> I don't want anyone posting a followup to my article to post off
> topic."

So what's wrong with just adding back the groups instead of blindly
replying to the followup?

>> - Disabling cross posting period is somewhat overkill especially
>> when
>>the number of groups is less than "many".
>
> In the vast majority of cases, two newsgroups in the crosspost is too
> many. We're talking about mitigating bad behavior by fuckheads.

The only way you can do that is sterilize the parents and the fuckheads.

>> - Newsmaster's have the prerogative to configure their news server
>>however they want to.
>
>>I will occasionally cross post a message to multiple (2-4) groups when
>>I'm not sure which group will receive the best engagement or which is
>>the best location. I usually set the Followup-To to what I think is
>>the most likely best group (sometimes 51/49 type ratio).
>
> Or... write an article that's slightly different AND on topic in each
> of the newsgroups without crossposting and without setting Followup-To
> and you may find that respecting the separate audience in each group
> will encourage followups.
>
> It should really occur to you that you have no idea if the person
> writing the followup is posting on topic in that newsgroup or if he
> even reads it, so trying to force him to post imto a newsgroup he
> doesn't read is just wrong.
>
> Four newsgroups in the crosspost? Give me a break. That's not on topic
> in each group.

It is in Australia and the UK.

On Sat, 18 Mar 2023 18:35:57 -0400, % <pursent1000@qmail.com> wrote:

>When Altopia was in business, they were second to none when it came to
>granting liberty. Chris Caputo was not playing net-cop. Are their any
>servers currently in operation with the same policies?

Newsdemon has no restrictions at all. If I want to call you a cunt, I
can call you a cunt.

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