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Lanman98 to Raspios (bullseye) now blocked?

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 by: Bob Latham - Fri, 21 Jan 2022 15:34 UTC

I have been building raspberry pie based projects for some time using
the official OS from their website. Last September the OS was called
"buster" and you could edit /etc/samaba/smb.conf and add...

client min protocol=NT1
ntlm auth=yes

This enabled SMB1 so that Lanman98 could connect.

I've tried that today with "bullseye" the latest OS and that config
no longer works. However, my W10 PC connects no problem. It looks to
me as though the doors are now closed on SMB1 and Lanman98.

Anyone got any ideas suggestions, google doesn't mention this
specific issue.

Thanks.

Bob.

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 by: Theo - Fri, 21 Jan 2022 22:47 UTC

Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> I have been building raspberry pie based projects for some time using
> the official OS from their website. Last September the OS was called
> "buster" and you could edit /etc/samaba/smb.conf and add...
>
> client min protocol=NT1
> ntlm auth=yes
>
> This enabled SMB1 so that Lanman98 could connect.
>
> I've tried that today with "bullseye" the latest OS and that config
> no longer works. However, my W10 PC connects no problem. It looks to
> me as though the doors are now closed on SMB1 and Lanman98.
>
> Anyone got any ideas suggestions, google doesn't mention this
> specific issue.

What version of Samba are you running on the Pi?

I had a skim through the release notes of various major releases of Samba (I
didn't go through all the point releases). The only thing I note, from
4.13.0, is deprecation of ntlm authentication:

SMBv1 only protocol options deprecated
--------------------------------------

A number of smb.conf parameters for less-secure authentication methods
which are only possible over SMBv1 are deprecated in this release.

REMOVED FEATURES
================

smb.conf changes
================

Parameter Name Description Default
-------------- ----------- -------
ldap ssl ads Removed
smb2 disable lock sequence checking Added No
smb2 disable oplock break retry Added No
domain logons Deprecated no
raw NTLMv2 auth Deprecated no
client plaintext auth Deprecated no
client NTLMv2 auth Deprecated yes
client lanman auth Deprecated no
client use spnego Deprecated yes
server require schannel:COMPUTER Added

but 'deprecated' shouldn't mean 'removed'.

Also, on my travels, I saw a note that Windows disables SMB1 if it hasn't
been used for 30 days. Which might explain why people have problems with
LanManFS/98 randomly stopping working, depending on when they last used it.

Theo

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 by: Bob Latham - Sat, 22 Jan 2022 14:33 UTC

In article <ABe*a4SEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > I have been building raspberry pie based projects for some time
> > using the official OS from their website. Last September the OS
> > was called "buster" and you could edit /etc/samaba/smb.conf and
> > add...
> >
> > client min protocol=NT1 ntlm auth=yes
> >
> > This enabled SMB1 so that Lanman98 could connect.
> >
> > I've tried that today with "bullseye" the latest OS and that
> > config no longer works. However, my W10 PC connects no problem.
> > It looks to me as though the doors are now closed on SMB1 and
> > Lanman98.
> >
> > Anyone got any ideas suggestions, google doesn't mention this
> > specific issue.

> What version of Samba are you running on the Pi?

I've never attempted to use a different version to the one that gets
installed for the OS you're running, is that even possible?

At the moment I've been trying to find the most recent OS that still
allows SMB1 with the added code mentioned before. The last I've found
is version 4.9.5-Debian which is the default for "buster 2021-12-02"
OS. That is still available for download at the moment.

Could I install SAMBA 4.9.5 on the later bullseye OS?
How might I go about that?

> I had a skim through the release notes of various major releases of
> Samba (I didn't go through all the point releases). The only thing
> I note, from 4.13.0, is deprecation of ntlm authentication:

Very interesting.

> SMBv1 only protocol options deprecated
> --------------------------------------

> A number of smb.conf parameters for less-secure authentication
> methods which are only possible over SMBv1 are deprecated in this
> release.

> REMOVED FEATURES
> ================

> smb.conf changes
> ================

> Parameter Name Description Default
> -------------- ----------- -------
> ldap ssl ads Removed
> smb2 disable lock sequence checking Added No
> smb2 disable oplock break retry Added No
> domain logons Deprecated no
> raw NTLMv2 auth Deprecated no
> client plaintext auth Deprecated no
> client NTLMv2 auth Deprecated yes
> client lanman auth Deprecated no
> client use spnego Deprecated yes
> server require schannel:COMPUTER Added

> but 'deprecated' shouldn't mean 'removed'.

And yet it doesn't function, how might I change that, is it possible
to change that??

> Also, on my travels, I saw a note that Windows disables SMB1 if it
> hasn't been used for 30 days. Which might explain why people have
> problems with LanManFS/98 randomly stopping working, depending on
> when they last used it.

That's also very interesting.

Thanks for your help.

Bob.

> Theo

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 by: Theo - Sat, 22 Jan 2022 15:22 UTC

Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ABe*a4SEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
>
> > What version of Samba are you running on the Pi?
>
> I've never attempted to use a different version to the one that gets
> installed for the OS you're running, is that even possible?

Possibly, but even if it wasn't, I don't have your system in front of me -
'the one in bullseye' doesn't help if I don't know what that is.
The one in *Debian* is 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 (ie 4.13.13 with their
tweaks)
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/samba
but I don't know if the Pi people have changed things (I don't know of a
packages.raspios site).

I'd use
sudo dpkg --list | grep samba
to tell you versions of all the packages with 'samba' in the name.

> At the moment I've been trying to find the most recent OS that still
> allows SMB1 with the added code mentioned before. The last I've found
> is version 4.9.5-Debian which is the default for "buster 2021-12-02"
> OS. That is still available for download at the moment.
>
> Could I install SAMBA 4.9.5 on the later bullseye OS?
> How might I go about that?

Yes. Assuming you were on Debian (and this might still work for PiOS, since
they're related), go here:
https://packages.debian.org/buster/samba
and you can download the 'armhf' package for Samba.

Then you can do:

sudo dpkg --install samba_4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2_armhf.deb

It may well complain about missing dependencies, in which case go back to
the Samba page, find what it needs, and download those .deb files.

*Beware* that it's possible to get your system in a mess if you install
packages this way that conflict with others that the packaging system can't
resolve. I'd take a backup of your system before trying this.

> > client plaintext auth Deprecated no
> > client NTLMv2 auth Deprecated yes
> > client lanman auth Deprecated no
> > client use spnego Deprecated yes
>
> > but 'deprecated' shouldn't mean 'removed'.
>
> And yet it doesn't function, how might I change that, is it possible
> to change that??

Have you confirmed that it's NTLM at fault, rather than something else? I
don't think we know what's causing it not to work, just that it doesn't.

Theo

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 by: Bob Latham - Sat, 22 Jan 2022 16:08 UTC

In article <BBe*jHWEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> > In article <ABe*a4SEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
> > Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> > > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > > What version of Samba are you running on the Pi?
> >
> > I've never attempted to use a different version to the one that
> > gets installed for the OS you're running, is that even possible?

> Possibly, but even if it wasn't, I don't have your system in front
> of me - 'the one in bullseye' doesn't help if I don't know what
> that is.

I've just built a system on another sd card and installed bullseye
and its samba.
samba -V gives
Version 4.13.13-Debian.

> The one in *Debian* is 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 (ie
> 4.13.13 with their tweaks)
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/samba but I don't know if the
> Pi people have changed things (I don't know of a packages.raspios
> site).

OK.

> I'd use sudo dpkg --list | grep samba to tell you versions of all
> the packages with 'samba' in the name.

I don't really understand where that would get me to be honest.

> > At the moment I've been trying to find the most recent OS that
> > still allows SMB1 with the added code mentioned before. The last
> > I've found is version 4.9.5-Debian which is the default for
> > "buster 2021-12-02" OS. That is still available for download at
> > the moment.
> >
> > Could I install SAMBA 4.9.5 on the later bullseye OS? How might I
> > go about that?

> Yes. Assuming you were on Debian (and this might still work for
> PiOS, since they're related), go here:
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/samba and you can download the
> 'armhf' package for Samba.

> Then you can do:

> sudo dpkg --install samba_4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2_armhf.deb

> It may well complain about missing dependencies, in which case go
> back to the Samba page, find what it needs, and download those .deb
> files.

I'll have a look at that, very new to me. :-)

> *Beware* that it's possible to get your system in a mess if you
> install packages this way that conflict with others that the
> packaging system can't resolve. I'd take a backup of your system
> before trying this.

Yes, I can see that but i'm building new sd cards at the moment if
something breaks it doesn't matter.

[Snip]

> > > but 'deprecated' shouldn't mean 'removed'.
> >
> > And yet it doesn't function, how might I change that, is it
> > possible to change that??

> Have you confirmed that it's NTLM at fault, rather than something
> else?

No, I have no idea how I could confirm that but I'm more than happy
to try if you'll inform me how.

> I don't think we know what's causing it not to work, just
> that it doesn't.

You are correct.

Thanks again.

Bob.

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In article <BBe*jHWEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
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> >
> > > What version of Samba are you running on the Pi?
> >
> > I've never attempted to use a different version to the one that
> > gets installed for the OS you're running, is that even possible?

> Possibly, but even if it wasn't, I don't have your system in front
> of me - 'the one in bullseye' doesn't help if I don't know what
> that is. The one in *Debian* is 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 (ie
> 4.13.13 with their tweaks)
> https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/samba but I don't know if the
> Pi people have changed things (I don't know of a packages.raspios
> site).

> I'd use sudo dpkg --list | grep samba to tell you versions of all
> the packages with 'samba' in the name.

python3-samba 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf
samba 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf
samba-common 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 all
samba-common-bin 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf
samba-dsdb-modules:armhf 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf
samba-libs:armhf 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf
samba-vfs-modules:armhf 2:4.13.13+dfsg-1~deb11u2 armhf

It doesn't appear to have much resemblance to what's on the website
to me but then I'm no linux expert.

Bob.

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In article <BBe*jHWEy@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>,
Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
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> > Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
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> >

[snip]

> > Could I install SAMBA 4.9.5 on the later bullseye OS?
> > How might I go about that?

> Yes. Assuming you were on Debian (and this might still work for
> PiOS, since they're related), go here:
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/samba and you can download the
> 'armhf' package for Samba.

> Then you can do:

> sudo dpkg --install samba_4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2_armhf.deb

> It may well complain about missing dependencies, in which case go
> back to the Samba page, find what it needs, and download those .deb
> files.

> *Beware* that it's possible to get your system in a mess if you
> install packages this way that conflict with others that the
> packaging system can't resolve. I'd take a backup of your system
> before trying this.

Had some fun trying this...

I installed 'bullseye' on an sd card and then into the pi and updated
it.

Downloaded the package for samba 4.9.5 as above. Then scratched my
head about how to get that package in to the pi. I installed an ftp
server and to my surprise it worked and I transferred the package to
the pi.

Then I ran...
sudo dpkg --install
/home/pi/ftp/files/samba_4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2_armhf.deb

but got dependancy errors.

Googling told me to then run.
sudo apt-get install -f
/home/pi/ftp/files/samba_4.9.5+dfsg-5+deb10u2_armhf.deb

Which tried hard to fix the errors but in the end it too failed.

Some things it said were - not installed but others it said --- is
not installable.

So I think I've gone as far as I can with that path. Many hours to do
it but I learnt a few things in the process even if it failed.

Bob.

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In message <59ae53a42cbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
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> I have been building raspberry pie based projects for some time using
> the official OS from their website. Last September the OS was called
> "buster" and you could edit /etc/samaba/smb.conf and add...

> client min protocol=NT1
> ntlm auth=yes

> This enabled SMB1 so that Lanman98 could connect.

> I've tried that today with "bullseye" the latest OS and that config
> no longer works. However, my W10 PC connects no problem. It looks to
> me as though the doors are now closed on SMB1 and Lanman98.

> Anyone got any ideas suggestions, google doesn't mention this
> specific issue.

The following in the global section of /etc/samba/smb.conf worked just
fine here on Raspberry Pi OS bullseye 32bit and 64bit.

server min protocol = LANMAN1

--
David Pitt
Titanium

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In article <dee93abe59.pittdj+@iyonix.home>,
David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59ae53a42cbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
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> > I have been building raspberry pie based projects for some time
> > using the official OS from their website. Last September the OS
> > was called "buster" and you could edit /etc/samaba/smb.conf and
> > add...

> > client min protocol=NT1 ntlm auth=yes

> > This enabled SMB1 so that Lanman98 could connect.

> > I've tried that today with "bullseye" the latest OS and that
> > config no longer works. However, my W10 PC connects no problem.
> > It looks to me as though the doors are now closed on SMB1 and
> > Lanman98.

> > Anyone got any ideas suggestions, google doesn't mention this
> > specific issue.

> The following in the global section of /etc/samba/smb.conf worked
> just fine here on Raspberry Pi OS bullseye 32bit and 64bit.

> server min protocol = LANMAN1

I enquired on the Raspberry pi forum and was told to use:
server min protocol=NT1
ntlm auth=yes

That also worked but I was told they've made it more difficult as a
warning that they intend to end SMB1 imminently.

Bob.

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 by: David Pitt - Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:39 UTC

In message <59be5b26d9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
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> In article <dee93abe59.pittdj+@iyonix.home>,
> David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <59ae53a42cbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
>> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

[snip - enabling SMB1]

> I was told they've made it more difficult as a
> warning that they intend to end SMB1 imminently.

We should be OK for a bit longer, SMB1 is not slated for removal in
the next upcoming samba release 4.16. Debian bullseye and Raspberry Pi
OS bullseye are in any case a bit behind the sharp end at samba 4.13.

https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Release_Planning

(Link works in Iris.)

By way of belt and braces I have set up an NFS server on Raspberry OS
bullseye. Sunfish will connect to it but the Mac won't.
--
David Pitt
Titanium

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In article <3551d4be59.pittdj+@iyonix.home>,
David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59be5b26d9bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > In article <dee93abe59.pittdj+@iyonix.home>,
> > David Pitt <news2@pittdj.co.uk> wrote:
> >> In message <59ae53a42cbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> >> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> [snip - enabling SMB1]

> > I was told they've made it more difficult as a
> > warning that they intend to end SMB1 imminently.

> We should be OK for a bit longer, SMB1 is not slated for removal in
> the next upcoming samba release 4.16. Debian bullseye and
> Raspberry Pi OS bullseye are in any case a bit behind the sharp
> end at samba 4.13.

> https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Samba_Release_Planning

> (Link works in Iris.)

> By way of belt and braces I have set up an NFS server on Raspberry
> OS bullseye. Sunfish will connect to it but the Mac won't.

Yes, I'm sure sunfish will do the job and I've used it to talk to my
NAS because with Lanman98 you can't tell the difference between a
space and a-acute if I recall correctly they both return the same
character and NFS doesn't. However, the folders you get in sunfish do
my head in and I avoid at all cost because of that.

If it does happen that RO can't connect to Linux and Windows I may
well just give up and go over to windows.

Bob.

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Tue, 22 Feb 2022 18:30 UTC

On 22 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
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> However, the folders you get in sunfish do my head in and I avoid
> at all cost because of that.

Eh? Folders?

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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 09:21 UTC

In article <mpro.r7py2n00nwttx03ey.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 22 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
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> > However, the folders you get in sunfish do my head in and I avoid
> > at all cost because of that.

> Eh? Folders?

I'm unsure what you question, the term or the meaning?

For very nearly 40 years everywhere I worked Windows was king and the
term was folders, too old to worry about that.

I mean the menu structure full of folders/directories I find baffling
before you even look at the network shared disc. LM98 better in every
way (while it works) except some of the character mappings.

Bob.

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 by: Chris Hughes - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 12:01 UTC

In message <59bf301accbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <mpro.r7py2n00nwttx03ey.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 22 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
>> <59bedb854bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

>>> However, the folders you get in sunfish do my head in and I avoid
>>> at all cost because of that.

>> Eh? Folders?

> I'm unsure what you question, the term or the meaning?

> For very nearly 40 years everywhere I worked Windows was king and the
> term was folders, too old to worry about that.

> I mean the menu structure full of folders/directories I find baffling
> before you even look at the network shared disc. LM98 better in every
> way (while it works) except some of the character mappings.

I think Steve was asking what your issue was with folders? I am also
intrigued to know as well, you can navigate them just the same as LM98.

As for naming issues, you have to remember that all OS's have some
characters are resticted in each OS for different reasons. like / in
Windows and Linux is a folder separator whereas RISC OS uses a . for that
purpose. things like #@�$& etc can be restricted as different OS's use
them for certain OS operations, also some OS's do not like space and
a-acute, some programs treat a space as a delimiter and chop the rest of
the text after it off/ignore it.

--
Chris Hughes
Don't miss this years Wakefield Show 21st May 2022
check the latest information at www.wakefieldshow.org.uk

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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 14:28 UTC

In article <67b23ebf59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <news13@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <59bf301accbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > In article <mpro.r7py2n00nwttx03ey.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> > Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> >> On 22 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
> >> <59bedb854bbob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

> >>> However, the folders you get in sunfish do my head in and I
> >>> avoid at all cost because of that.

> >> Eh? Folders?

> > I'm unsure what you question, the term or the meaning?

> > For very nearly 40 years everywhere I worked Windows was king and
> > the term was folders, too old to worry about that.

> > I mean the menu structure full of folders/directories I find
> > baffling before you even look at the network shared disc. LM98
> > better in every way (while it works) except some of the character
> > mappings.

> I think Steve was asking what your issue was with folders? I am
> also intrigued to know as well, you can navigate them just the same
> as LM98.

With LM98 you have one file, that file has all the setting for one
connection to a network share. Double click that file and you're
connected. Indeed the name of the file then appears on the icon bar,
excellent. Passwords whilst admittedly still SMB1 are plain and
simple user name password combinations. Not like the UID, GID, umask
etc. with NFS, which is no doubt standard Linux but after LM98 all
quite odd, and seems to rely on ip addresses.

I'm not saying I can't use Sunfish, I can but I don't like it due to
its complexity in comparison to LM98.

> As for naming issues, you have to remember that all OS's have some
> characters are resticted in each OS for different reasons. like /
> in Windows and Linux is a folder separator whereas RISC OS uses a .
> for that purpose. things like #@#$& etc can be restricted as
> different OS's use them for certain OS operations, also some OS's
> do not like space and a-acute, some programs treat a space as a
> delimiter and chop the rest of the text after it off/ignore it.

Yes, I'm more than well aware of all that. The only point I was
making was that Lanman98 returns &A0 if it encounters a space or an
a-acute which if like me you have a music library on a NAS this can
be hard to get around. Yes, I am aware that a-acute is stored on a PC
with more than 1 byte but it does mean that files containing a-acute
in their names cannot be opened with LM98 or at least I've not
managed it. Surprisingly (to me) large numbers of files with titles
containing extended character set characters can be opened through
LM98.

One thing I do like about NFS once you managed to connect and
navigate to your connection is that it can return more than one
byte for a single character item which means you can tell things
apart. I wish LM98 had a selectable mode that returned multi byte
translations.

Bob.

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 18:54 UTC

On 23 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
<59bf4c3780bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

> > I think Steve was asking what your issue was with folders?

I was indeed. The statement "all the folders you get in sunfish" made
absolutely no sense, from the perspective of someone who uses Sunfish to
access all of the work that I do on RISC OS.
> With LM98 you have one file, that file has all the setting for one
> connection to a network share. Double click that file and you're
> connected.

Indeed. That's how Sunfish works as well.

> Indeed the name of the file then appears on the icon bar, excellent.

Ditto. Actually, it can be /any/ name, IIRC, because you configure it in the
file.

> Passwords whilst admittedly still SMB1 are plain and simple user name
> password combinations.

NFS has no concept of passwords, so you'll be fine: Sunfish doesn't use
them.

> Not like the UID, GID, umask etc. with NFS, which is no doubt standard
> Linux

The UID and GID are the file owners on the Linux side. You set them once in
Sunfish, to make sure that the files you save into it get assigned to the
correct user at the other end when configuring the share... then never see
them again.

> but after LM98 all quite odd, and seems to rely on ip addresses.

As I said, NFS has no concept of passwords. You restrict who can connect to
the server via IP address ranges (restrict it to your local subnet) and (in
a "real" setup) by who can get on to that subnet in the first place.
> I'm not saying I can't use Sunfish, I can but I don't like it due to its
> complexity in comparison to LM98.

The problem being that it's *not* complex in comparison to LM98: you edit
the settings in a text file, and double-click that to put the share on the
iconbar.

Maybe two text files, as there's the filer and the share itself, but even so
it's not that difficult.

Pre-ARMv7, it was all point-and-click in the GUI, but unfortunately
rebuilding that for modern hardware is proving tricky because it appears to
rely on being able to use an obsolete compiler suite.

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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 by: Dave - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 19:07 UTC

In article <59bf4c3780bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> I'm not saying I can't use Sunfish, I can but I don't like it due to
> its complexity in comparison to LM98.

I tried it many years ago... I'm saying I couldn't use it because it
wouldn't work.

Obviously my problem with the configs, so I went back to LM98.

So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

Thanks
News@

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 by: Dave - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 20:53 UTC

In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <59bf4c3780bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

> > I'm not saying I can't use Sunfish, I can but I don't like it due to
> > its complexity in comparison to LM98.

> I tried it many years ago... I'm saying I couldn't use it because it
> wouldn't work.

> Obviously my problem with the configs, so I went back to LM98.

> So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
> setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

> Thanks
> News@

Found Sunfish 2.05 put it in my VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

Did the Search for Host and tried with both Hostname and IP address...
Nothing except an error.

** WimpError ** from Sunfish
Error : &00000000
Message: Error when sending or receiving data (Operation timed out)

Apart from the obvious... I've no idea what that means.
?

News

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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 20:55 UTC

In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
> setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

https://www.filebase.org.uk/software/communications/network/935

Bob.

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 by: Bob Latham - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:11 UTC

In article <mpro.r7rtu901sf86g03of.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
> On 23 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
> <59bf4c3780bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

> > > I think Steve was asking what your issue was with folders?

> I was indeed. The statement "all the folders you get in sunfish"
> made absolutely no sense, from the perspective of someone who uses
> Sunfish to access all of the work that I do on RISC OS.

Well from my perspective they are very different.

I've just run sunfish and icon bar - browse.
Folder or window 1

Click on NFS server red
Another folder window 2

Then you get menus
Name export
File name and file type choices
Connection choices
User ID choices.

you even get a choice of UDP or TCP.

I don't yet have a drive on the ibar.

Now it could be argued that this complexity is good, it gives you
choices and I can't disagree with that but it is more complex. And
given the choice I prefer LM98 except for the char mapping which
*looks* like it might be better on sunfish.

I got around the a-acute issue by replacing them everywhere in my
library.

Bob.

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 by: Dave - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 21:13 UTC

In article <59bf6fa2cabob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
> > setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

> https://www.filebase.org.uk/software/communications/network/935

> Bob.

Thanks, I already have 2.05 installed.

Not that it makes any difference as you'll note from my recent post. :-(

Dave

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>> In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
>> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

>>> So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
>>> setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

>> https://www.filebase.org.uk/software/communications/network/935

>> Bob.

> Thanks, I already have 2.05 installed.

> Not that it makes any difference as you'll note from my recent post. :-(

> Dave

I'd suggest that you obtain a copy via Packman or:

http://riscos.info/packages/arm/Disc/Sunfish_2.05-2.zip

And then getting the FrontEnd ARMV7 compliant !RunImage from:

https://www.riscosports.co.uk/downloads.html

Works here on ARMX6 etc.

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:47 UTC

On 23 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
<59bf6fa2cabob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

> In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
> > setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.
>
> https://www.filebase.org.uk/software/communications/network/935

The main download is at http://www.cp15.org/networking/

Then there's an update for the !RunImage file for modern machines at

http://www.cgransden.co.uk/sunfish.zip

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Wed, 23 Feb 2022 22:56 UTC

On 23 Feb, Bob Latham wrote in message
<59bf711118bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>:

> In article <mpro.r7rtu901sf86g03of.news@stevefryatt.org.uk>,
> Steve Fryatt <news@stevefryatt.org.uk> wrote:
>
> > I was indeed. The statement "all the folders you get in sunfish" made
> > absolutely no sense, from the perspective of someone who uses Sunfish to
> > access all of the work that I do on RISC OS.
>
> Well from my perspective they are very different.
>
> I've just run sunfish and icon bar - browse. Folder or window 1
>
> Click on NFS server red Another folder window 2
>
> Then you get menus

[snip]

> I don't yet have a drive on the ibar.

Except that you're not comparing like-for-like as far as I can tell, because
you've talked about a saved mount file on LM98 and yet you're navigating to
the share from scratch each time in Sunfish?

If you configure the mount as you want it (a one-off operation, just like
the first time you visit a mount in LM98), then *save* it as a mount file,
it's a double-click on that file the next time you want to visit it. With
the same configured settings, no less.

Or you save the filer mounts on the iconbar, and just run Sunfish the
application to get them back on to the iconbar.

Either way, I've not followed the route that you describe for years, because
my NFS drives appear on the iconbar each time my machine starts up, exactly
as I saved them the first time around. No machine names, or umasks, or GIDs,
in sight...

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In article <3b877abf59.dougjwebb@btinternet.com>,
Doug Webb <doug.j.webb@btinternet.com> wrote:
> In message <59bf7150f8news@triffid.co.uk>
> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> > In article <59bf6fa2cabob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
> > Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
> >> In article <59bf65b7d4news@triffid.co.uk>,
> >> Dave <news@triffid.co.uk> wrote:

> >>> So with the future in mind, and Steve seems to think it's so easy to
> >>> setup, where might a chap get this Sunfish app.

> >> https://www.filebase.org.uk/software/communications/network/935

> >> Bob.

> > Thanks, I already have 2.05 installed.

> > Not that it makes any difference as you'll note from my recent post. :-(

> > Dave

> I'd suggest that you obtain a copy via Packman or:

> http://riscos.info/packages/arm/Disc/Sunfish_2.05-2.zip

> And then getting the FrontEnd ARMV7 compliant !RunImage from:

> https://www.riscosports.co.uk/downloads.html

> Works here on ARMX6 etc.

Thanks for those URL.

Again the app runs to the icon bar but is still incapable of finding any
Host or IP address. (Icon bar menu- Browse-Search for Host...

VRPC-DL RISC OS 6.20

IP address is 192.168.0.4 and the Host (Windows computer) is blackfan.

Dave

LM98 has no problem seeing and connecting with that.

Server: blackfan
Share: C

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