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* Tip: Safe Mode at StartupT
+* Tip: Safe Mode at StartupDennis
|`* Tip: Safe Mode at StartupT
| `* Tip: Safe Mode at StartupPaul
|  `- Tip: Safe Mode at StartupT
`- Tip: Safe Mode at StartupWang-Yu

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Subject: Tip: Safe Mode at Startup
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:05:47 -0700
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 by: T - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:05 UTC

Hi All,

If you can not get into regular Windows
and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
this AT YOUR OWN RISK!

Windows 10 & 11: Safe Boot at startup:

If you at least get the spinning dots (the boot
loader) hard reboot the system 3 times from this
screen and that should trigger safe mode.

Yikes! M$ really thought that one out,
didn't they!

-T

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From: nob...@nowhere.invalid (Dennis)
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Subject: Re: Tip: Safe Mode at Startup
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 by: Dennis - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:19 UTC

On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:05:47 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>If you can not get into regular Windows
>and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
>this AT YOUR OWN RISK!

It works. I used it to reformat a PC to factory defaults before selling
it. I used this method because it was my late bro-in-law's PC and I
didn't have any passwords.

--

Dennis

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 by: T - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 15:36 UTC

On 6/19/23 08:19, Dennis wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:05:47 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> If you can not get into regular Windows
>> and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
>> this AT YOUR OWN RISK!
>
> It works. I used it to reformat a PC to factory defaults before selling
> it. I used this method because it was my late bro-in-law's PC and I
> didn't have any passwords.
>

I have used it before, but it freaked me out
thinking I was about to corrupt something.
Well worse than it already was.

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From: nos...@needed.invalid (Paul)
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Subject: Re: Tip: Safe Mode at Startup
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 by: Paul - Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:53 UTC

On 6/19/2023 11:36 AM, T wrote:
> On 6/19/23 08:19, Dennis wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:05:47 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> If you can not get into regular Windows
>>> and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
>>> this AT YOUR OWN RISK!
>>
>> It works. I used it to reformat a PC to factory defaults before selling
>> it. I used this method because it was my late bro-in-law's PC and I
>> didn't have any passwords.
>>
>
>
> I have used it before, but it freaked me out
> thinking I was about to corrupt something.
> Well worse than it already was.

Boot a Windows Installer DVD, select troubleshooting,
select Command Prompt (which runs as admin). Do an
offline BCD edit.

From my notes file:

F8 boot menu for Windows 10:

dir /AH C:\boot\BCD # verify BCD is there, so the following command will work
# In an offline edit, sometimes the drive letter shifts to D:

bcdedit /store C:\boot\BCD /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True # Offline edit of BCD file

The reason we're doing this in Offline Mode, is the assumption
is, the machine is busted, but booting from the DVD still works.
The file system is assumed operational. Run CHKDSK if it is not.

When you reboot, the "tile menu" will be replaced by the legacy
text menu. Look for the F8 option, lower on the page.

Here, you can see a bit of my "bcdedit" output, from an administrator
window on the running OS.

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
path \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject { alphanumeric string }
displayorder { alphanumeric string }
{current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30
displaybootmenu Yes <====== the menu mod, is present

This picture is to give some idea what the boot menu will look like.

https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/37308d1485956903t-enable-disable-f8-advanced-boot-options-windows-10-a-f8_windows_boot_manager.png

The timeout value can be modified from "30" if you want,
and that is suited to the Ninjas out there. I just leave it
at 30.

Paul

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 by: T - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:48 UTC

On 6/19/23 14:53, Paul wrote:
> On 6/19/2023 11:36 AM, T wrote:
>> On 6/19/23 08:19, Dennis wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2023 08:05:47 -0700, T <T@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you can not get into regular Windows
>>>> and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
>>>> this AT YOUR OWN RISK!
>>>
>>> It works. I used it to reformat a PC to factory defaults before selling
>>> it. I used this method because it was my late bro-in-law's PC and I
>>> didn't have any passwords.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have used it before, but it freaked me out
>> thinking I was about to corrupt something.
>> Well worse than it already was.
>
> Boot a Windows Installer DVD, select troubleshooting,
> select Command Prompt (which runs as admin). Do an
> offline BCD edit.
>
> From my notes file:
>
>    F8 boot menu for Windows 10:
>
>    dir /AH C:\boot\BCD                 # verify BCD is there, so the
> following command will work
>                                        # In an offline edit, sometimes
> the drive letter shifts to D:
>
>    bcdedit /store C:\boot\BCD  /set {bootmgr} displaybootmenu True   #
> Offline edit of BCD file
>
> The reason we're doing this in Offline Mode, is the assumption
> is, the machine is busted, but booting from the DVD still works.
> The file system is assumed operational. Run CHKDSK if it is not.
>
> When you reboot, the "tile menu" will be replaced by the legacy
> text menu. Look for the F8 option, lower on the page.
>
> Here, you can see a bit of my "bcdedit" output, from an administrator
> window on the running OS.
>
> Windows Boot Manager
> --------------------
> identifier              {bootmgr}
> device                  partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume1
> path                    \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
> description             Windows Boot Manager
> locale                  en-US
> inherit                 {globalsettings}
> default                 {current}
> resumeobject            {        alphanumeric string         }
> displayorder            {        alphanumeric string         }
>                         {current}
> toolsdisplayorder       {memdiag}
> timeout                 30
> displaybootmenu         Yes              <====== the menu mod, is present
>
> This picture is to give some idea what the boot menu will look like.
>
> https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/tutorials/37308d1485956903t-enable-disable-f8-advanced-boot-options-windows-10-a-f8_windows_boot_manager.png
>
> The timeout value can be modified from "30" if you want,
> and that is suited to the Ninjas out there. I just leave it
> at 30.
>
>    Paul
:-) -:) :-) !!!!!

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 by: Wang-Yu - Tue, 20 Jun 2023 16:42 UTC

On 19/06/2023 16:05, T wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> If you can not get into regular Windows
> and need to boot up into Safe Mode, try
> this AT YOUR OWN RISK!
>
>
> Windows 10 & 11: Safe Boot at startup:
>
> ��� If you at least get the spinning dots (the boot
> ��� loader) hard reboot the system 3 times from this
> ��� screen and that should trigger safe mode.
>
> Yikes!� M$ really thought that one out,
> didn't they!
>
>

I have disabled fast startup and now I can see pigs flying on my screen.
Very useful feature.

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