How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?

John.

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In article <u314ho$1vhbf$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
<yclept@outlook.com> wrote:

> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?

two ways on the device:

- settings>general>about, scroll to wi-fi address

- settings>wi-fi, tap on the i of the wifi network in use, scroll to
wi-fi address

another way is check your router for all connected devices.

On 04/05/2023 21:28, John Hill wrote:
> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?
>
> John.

John,

For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get "Wi-Fi
Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to check the Bluetooth
address, but it /may/ be very similar excepting the final byte.

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On 5 May 2023 at 07:07:35 BST, "David Taylor"
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> On 04/05/2023 21:28, John Hill wrote:
>> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?
>>
>> John.
>
> John,
>
> For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get "Wi-Fi
> Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to check the Bluetooth
> address, but it /may/ be very similar excepting the final byte.

Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared on my
WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.

Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a network?
I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this, too!

John.
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In article <u326f7$26ng6$1@dont-email.me>, David Taylor
<david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> > How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?

> For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get "Wi-Fi
> Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to check the Bluetooth
> address,

both the wifi & bluetooth mac addresses are in settings>general>about,
right next to each other.

> but it /may/ be very similar excepting the final byte.

no.

In article <u32e0u$2963h$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
<watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared on my
> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.

the mac address could be spoofed.

> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a network?

depends if it's configured to spoof or not.

> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this, too!

there is.

On 2023-05-05, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 5 May 2023 at 07:07:35 BST, "David Taylor"
><david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/05/2023 21:28, John Hill wrote:
>>>
>>> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?
>>
>> For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get
>> "Wi-Fi Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to
>> check the Bluetooth address, but it /may/ be very similar excepting
>> the final byte.
>
> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that
> appeared on my WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC
> address is 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.

Do a scan with `arp -a` and see if it shows up there.

> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
> network? I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a
> button for this, too!

It's possible you're just seeing a randomized MAC address:
<https://support.apple.com/guide/security/wi-fi-privacy-secb9cb3140c/web>

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nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <u32e0u$2963h$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
> <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared on my
>> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
>> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>
> the mac address could be spoofed.
>
>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a network?
>
> depends if it's configured to spoof or not.
>
>> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this, too!
>
> there is.
>

That last reminds me of the Minister's definition of the perfect answer to
a Parliamentary Question to his
Permanent Secretary. It is complete, concise, exact, to the point and
contains no useful information whatsoever.

Where, pray, might I find this button?

John.

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Moves on: nor all thy Piety nor Wit
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In article <u361c7$2uand$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
<yclept@outlook.com> wrote:

> >> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared
> >> on my
> >> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
> >> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
> >
> > the mac address could be spoofed.
> >
> >> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
> >> network?
> >
> > depends if it's configured to spoof or not.
> >
> >> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this,
> >> too!
> >
> > there is.
> >
>
> That last reminds me of the Minister's definition of the perfect answer to
> a Parliamentary Question to his
> Permanent Secretary. It is complete, concise, exact, to the point and
> contains no useful information whatsoever.

it answered your question.

> Where, pray, might I find this button?

settings>wifi and tap the i for the active network, scroll down to the
'private wi-fi address' switch and toggle it as desired. setting it to
private will use a spoofed mac address.

any time it's changed, it will alert that the connection will drop, and
then display the new mac address (spoofed or not).

On 5 May 2023 at 15:06:45 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

> On 2023-05-05, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On 5 May 2023 at 07:07:35 BST, "David Taylor"
>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 04/05/2023 21:28, John Hill wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?
>>>
>>> For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get
>>> "Wi-Fi Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to
>>> check the Bluetooth address, but it /may/ be very similar excepting
>>> the final byte.
>>
>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that
>> appeared on my WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC
>> address is 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>
> Do a scan with `arp -a` and see if it shows up there.
>
>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
>> network? I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a
>> button for this, too!
>
> It's possible you're just seeing a randomized MAC address:
> <https://support.apple.com/guide/security/wi-fi-privacy-secb9cb3140c/web>

That appears to be the answer! Thank you.

I have confirmed that the "unknown" device is actually my iPhone, and I have
labelled it as such in my Router's list of devices.

Thank you, also, all the rest of those who assisted me.

Still clmbering up the learning curve!

John.

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On 6 May 2023 at 19:02:55 BST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <u361c7$2uand$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
> <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared
>>>> on my
>>>> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
>>>> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>>>
>>> the mac address could be spoofed.
>>>
>>>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
>>>> network?
>>>
>>> depends if it's configured to spoof or not.
>>>
>>>> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this,
>>>> too!
>>>
>>> there is.
>>>
>>
>> That last reminds me of the Minister's definition of the perfect answer to
>> a Parliamentary Question to his
>> Permanent Secretary. It is complete, concise, exact, to the point and
>> contains no useful information whatsoever.
>
> it answered your question.

That is incontrovertible!

>
>> Where, pray, might I find this button?
>
> settings>wifi and tap the i for the active network, scroll down to the
> 'private wi-fi address' switch and toggle it as desired. setting it to
> private will use a spoofed mac address.
>
> any time it's changed, it will alert that the connection will drop, and
> then display the new mac address (spoofed or not).

Thank you. That did provide the information I was after. I will (try to) store
it in the memory banks.

John.

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On 6 May 2023 at 19:02:55 BST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <u361c7$2uand$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
> <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>>>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared
>>>> on my
>>>> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
>>>> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>>>
>>> the mac address could be spoofed.
>>>
>>>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
>>>> network?
>>>
>>> depends if it's configured to spoof or not.
>>>
>>>> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this,
>>>> too!
>>>
>>> there is.
>>>
>>
>> That last reminds me of the Minister's definition of the perfect answer to
>> a Parliamentary Question to his
>> Permanent Secretary. It is complete, concise, exact, to the point and
>> contains no useful information whatsoever.
>
> it answered your question.

That is inconvertibly true.
>
>> Where, pray, might I find this button?
>
> settings>wifi and tap the i for the active network, scroll down to the
> 'private wi-fi address' switch and toggle it as desired. setting it to
> private will use a spoofed mac address.
>
> any time it's changed, it will alert that the connection will drop, and
> then display the new mac address (spoofed or not).

Thank you.That is the information I was seeking. I will (try to) store it away
in the memory banks

John.
--
Lord, grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.

On 7 May 2023 at 10:43:32 BST, "John Hill" <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> On 6 May 2023 at 19:02:55 BST, "nospam" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <u361c7$2uand$1@dont-email.me>, John Hill
>> <yclept@outlook.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that appeared
>>>>> on my
>>>>> WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC address is
>>>>> 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>>>>
>>>> the mac address could be spoofed.
>>>>
>>>>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join a
>>>>> network?
>>>>
>>>> depends if it's configured to spoof or not.
>>>>
>>>>> I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a button for this,
>>>>> too!
>>>>
>>>> there is.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That last reminds me of the Minister's definition of the perfect answer to
>>> a Parliamentary Question to his
>>> Permanent Secretary. It is complete, concise, exact, to the point and
>>> contains no useful information whatsoever.
>>
>> it answered your question.
>
> That is inconvertibly true.
>>
>>> Where, pray, might I find this button?
>>
>> settings>wifi and tap the i for the active network, scroll down to the
>> 'private wi-fi address' switch and toggle it as desired. setting it to
>> private will use a spoofed mac address.
>>
>> any time it's changed, it will alert that the connection will drop, and
>> then display the new mac address (spoofed or not).
>
> Thank you.That is the information I was seeking. I will (try to) store it away
> in the memory banks
>
> John.

Sorry - somehow that got sent twice. Not my morning, I'll go and play at
something else.

J.

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On 2023-05-07, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 5 May 2023 at 15:06:45 BST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-05-05, John Hill <watcombeman@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>> On 5 May 2023 at 07:07:35 BST, "David Taylor"
>>> <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On 04/05/2023 21:28, John Hill wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> How can I find out the MAC addresses of an iPad and an iPad?
>>>>
>>>> For a Wi-Fi connection, click on the connected service, and you get
>>>> "Wi-Fi Address", which is its MAC address. I can't see a way to
>>>> check the Bluetooth address, but it /may/ be very similar excepting
>>>> the final byte.
>>>
>>> Thank you both. I'm trying to identify an "Unknown" device that
>>> appeared on my WiFi network at the same time as the iMac. Its MAC
>>> address is 9A:2F:9C:8D:63:83, which is down as No Vendor Assigned.
>>
>> Do a scan with `arp -a` and see if it shows up there.
>>
>>> Aren't Apple devices supposed to identify themselves when they join
>>> a network? I seem to remember that they used to. Perhaps there is a
>>> button for this, too!
>>
>> It's possible you're just seeing a randomized MAC address:
>> <https://support.apple.com/guide/security/wi-fi-privacy-secb9cb3140c/web>
>
> That appears to be the answer! Thank you.
>
> I have confirmed that the "unknown" device is actually my iPhone, and
> I have labelled it as such in my Router's list of devices.

Welcome. Just keep in mind that address may change in the future.

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