Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?

No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
in Pascal for Multics:

https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/

Simon.

PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
add to the outstanding list. :-)

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On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>
> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
> in Pascal for Multics:
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/

Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.

>
> Simon.
>
> PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
> add to the outstanding list. :-)
>

I thought Multics was released to the Open Source world more than
a decade (or two or three) ago.

Bill Gunshannon wrote:

> Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.

It's similar to the Mastermind board game, but with letters instead of colours

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastermind_(board_game)>

In article <jg9h1uFpdv1U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>>
>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
>> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
>> in Pascal for Multics:
>>
>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
>
>Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.

It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
with green and gray and yellow squares.

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Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

> On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?

>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
>> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
>> in Pascal for Multics:

>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/

[ snip ]

>> PS: Didn't realise Multics was open source now. That's another one to
>> add to the outstanding list. :-)

> I thought Multics was released to the Open Source world more than
> a decade (or two or three) ago.

Multics was only released to the Open Source world within the last decade,
thanks to the efforts of some of my friends. Bull and MIT had to hash out the
copyrights before that could happen.

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omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
--Galen

On 6/7/2022 2:50 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <jg9h1uFpdv1U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>> On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>>>
>>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
>>> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
>>> in Pascal for Multics:
>>>
>>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
>>
>> Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
>
> It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
> with green and gray and yellow squares.
>

So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?

:-) :-) :-)

Dave, who has no idea what the thing is ...

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On 6/7/2022 1:39 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>
> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
> in Pascal for Multics:
>
> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/

The code linked in the article build on VMS with 3 tiny changes:

63 fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
->
63 open(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt', old);

75 fclose(inwords);
->
75 close(inwords);

108 chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
->
108 chosenword := wordlist[clock mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];

Arne

In article <t7ob7i$d24$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>On 6/7/2022 2:50 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <jg9h1uFpdv1U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>>>>
>>>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put the idea
>>>> into your heads after seeing that someone has created a Wordle clone
>>>> in Pascal for Multics:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
>>>
>>> Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
>>
>> It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some kind of puzzle
>> with green and gray and yellow squares.
>>
>
>So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?

That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care about is
who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and mach number. All of
the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers
people post for scores make no sense and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives
a rats arse?

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On 8/06/2022 9:29 am, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <t7ob7i$d24$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>> On 6/7/2022 2:50 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>> In article <jg9h1uFpdv1U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>> <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>>>>>
>>>>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put
>>>>> the idea into your heads after seeing that someone has
>>>>> created a Wordle clone in Pascal for Multics:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
>>>>
>>>> Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
>>>
>>> It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some
>>> kind of puzzle with green and gray and yellow squares.
>>>
>>
>> So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?
>
> That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care
> about is who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and
> mach number. All of the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's
> some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers people post for scores make no sense
> and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives a rats arse?
>

Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!

Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(

On 6/7/22 8:27 PM, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>
> The code linked in the article build on VMS with 3 tiny changes:
>
>    63     fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
> ->
>    63     open(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt', old);
>
>    75     fclose(inwords);
> ->
>    75     close(inwords);
>
>   108     chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
> ->
>   108     chosenword := wordlist[clock mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
>
> Arne

Just saw this, and exactly so, though I used "readonly" instead of
"old". It also compiles on linux with
63c63
< fconnect(inwords, 'vfile_ words.txt');
---
> assign(inwords, 'words.txt');
75c75
< fclose(inwords);
---
> close(inwords);
108c108,110
< chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
---
> //chosenword := wordlist[trunc(clock) mod MAX_WORD_INDEX];
> randomize;
> chosenword := wordlist[ random(9223372036854775807) mod
MAX_WORD_INDEX];

anyway, quick link for anyone wanting to avoid the edit/compile cycle -
https://bit.ly/wordle-vms

In article <t7p0v7$1p1u$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> writes:
>On 8/06/2022 9:29 am, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <t7ob7i$d24$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
>> <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>>> On 6/7/2022 2:50 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>>> In article <jg9h1uFpdv1U1@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
>>>> <bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> On 6/7/22 13:39, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>>>>> Has anyone thought about doing a Wordle clone for VMS ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No interest in doing this myself, but I thought I would put
>>>>>> the idea into your heads after seeing that someone has
>>>>>> created a Wordle clone in Pascal for Multics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.theregister.com/2022/06/07/wordle_multics/
>>>>>
>>>>> Still have no idea what this Wordle thing is.
>>>>
>>>> It's another stupid thing that people post on FaceBook. Some
>>>> kind of puzzle with green and gray and yellow squares.
>>>>
>>>
>>> So then, if it's so stupid, how do you know about it?
>>
>> That dumb shit shows up in my feed every morning. All I really care
>> about is who flew what over the weekend, and to what altitude and
>> mach number. All of the rest is ignorant fluff. All I know is it's
>> some 5x5 puzzle. The numbers people post for scores make no sense
>> and, that, like Depp and Herd, who gives a rats arse?
>>
>
>Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>
>Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
-^^^^^^^^^^

I had to google that one. Another couple of Follywood inbreds about whom
I couldn't give a rat's arse. I don't drink wine (bleachk, grapes) but I
did enjoy a fine Icarus Putin Huylo recently. ;)

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On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>
> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(

What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
coming across as on the world stage ? :-(

Simon.

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On 2022-06-07, Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> wrote:
>
> Multics was only released to the Open Source world within the last decade,
> thanks to the efforts of some of my friends. Bull and MIT had to hash out the
> copyrights before that could happen.
>

When you next see them, please thank them for me. Seriously.

It's now been added to my (way too long :-)) list of things for me
to look at some time in the future.

Simon.

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On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>
>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>
> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>
> Simon.
>

If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's got the
right idea. Who would you prefer? Neville Chamberlain?

Some suggested reading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...

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On 2022-06-08, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>>
>>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>>
>> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
>> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's got the
> right idea. Who would you prefer? Neville Chamberlain?
>
> Some suggested reading:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
>

I'm not talking about Ukraine - that's the only thing he's got right
recently. I'm talking about everything else. The MPs no-confidence
rebellion was larger than I expected however which was a nice surprise.

Simon.

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On 6/8/2022 8:12 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>>
>>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>>
>> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
>> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>
> If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
> got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?

It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...

https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864

Arne

On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 8:12 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>>>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>>>
>>> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
>>> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>>
>> If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think
>> he's got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
>
> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
> the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>

Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
that wasn't the norm?

bill

On 2022-06-08, Arne Vajhøj <arne@vajhoej.dk> wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 8:12 AM, Dave Froble wrote:
>> On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>>> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>>>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>>>
>>> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
>>> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>>
>> If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
>> got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
>
> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
> the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>
> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>

Yes, and also things like signing international agreements while knowing
that he would not be honouring the agreement he just signed:

https://www.bbc.com/news/58001530

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/16/boris-johnson-brexit-mess-northern-ireland-dup

Simon.

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In article <jgc2a6F7sppU1@mid.individual.net>, bill.gunshannon@gmail.com
(Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
> On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajh�j wrote:
> > It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
> > the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
> >
> > https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>
> Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
> that wasn't the norm?

Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.

A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
social distancing.

Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.

John

On 6/8/22 13:55, John Dallman wrote:
> In article <jgc2a6F7sppU1@mid.individual.net>, bill.gunshannon@gmail.com
> (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
>>> the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>>
>> Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
>> that wasn't the norm?
>
> Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
> transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
> for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
> knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.

I repeat myself. Of the major countries that people usually care about,
who was different?

>
> A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
> constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
> funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
> social distancing.

And Nancy Pelosi was having private sessions at a hairdresser.
Cuomo was hosting parties at the Governor's mansion.
de Blasio (former mayor of NYC) was travelling to expensive restaurants
in NJ for large dinners with his friends (maskless) while NYC was on
lockdown.

>
> Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
> liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
> children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
> know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
> they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
> them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
> election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.

How do you tell when a politician is lying?

bill

On 6/8/2022 1:56 PM, John Dallman wrote:
> In article <jgc2a6F7sppU1@mid.individual.net>, bill.gunshannon@gmail.com
> (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>> On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
>>> the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>>>
>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>>
>> Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
>> that wasn't the norm?
>
> Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
> transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
> for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
> knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.
>
> A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
> constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
> funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
> social distancing.
>
> Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
> liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
> children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
> know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
> they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
> them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
> election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.
>
> John
>

General attitude:

I'd rather have an asshole who does right for the country than an angel that
totally screws up the country.

Note: Trump is neither, he's an asshole that screws up the country, and a
subversive traitor who wanted to take away our form of government.

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On 6/8/2022 2:28 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 6/8/22 13:55, John Dallman wrote:
>> In article <jgc2a6F7sppU1@mid.individual.net>, bill.gunshannon@gmail.com
>> (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>> On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut down
>>>> the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>>>
>>> Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where
>>> that wasn't the norm?
>>
>> Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been quite
>> transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a different law
>> for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying about his lack of
>> knowledge that various gatherings were parties rather than meetings.
>
> I repeat myself. Of the major countries that people usually care about,
> who was different?
>
>>
>> A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to face
>> constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or child's
>> funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having parties with no
>> social distancing.
>
> And Nancy Pelosi was having private sessions at a hairdresser.
> Cuomo was hosting parties at the Governor's mansion.
> de Blasio (former mayor of NYC) was travelling to expensive restaurants
> in NJ for large dinners with his friends (maskless) while NYC was on
> lockdown.
>
>>
>> Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a continual
>> liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions about how many
>> children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion is that he doesn't
>> know. However, his MPs and voters are now having to face up to what
>> they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't like the way it makes
>> them look. They're also aware that he's likely to loose them the next
>> election, which was what caused the recent vote of confidence.
>
> How do you tell when a politician is lying?
>
> bill
>

His lips are moving ????

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On 9/06/2022 3:18 am, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 1:56 PM, John Dallman wrote:
>> In article <jgc2a6F7sppU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> bill.gunshannon@gmail.com (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:
>>> On 6/8/22 08:24, Arne Vajhøj wrote:
>>>> It probably was more about the fact that during Covid he shut
>>>> down the entire country and then partied in number 10 ...
>>>>
>>>> https://www.bbc.com/news/60203864
>>>
>>> Was there any (legitimate) government in the world where that
>>> wasn't the norm?
>>
>> Unknown, but the PM has handled his case very badly. He's been
>> quite transparently having one law for him and his friends, and a
>> different law for everyone else. He's also been obviously lying
>> about his lack of knowledge that various gatherings were parties
>> rather than meetings.
>>
>> A common complaint from his MPs is that they've been having to
>> face constituents who were not allowed to go to their parent's or
>> child's funerals during lockdown, while Number 10 was having
>> parties with no social distancing.
>>
>> Quite a lot of the population were already aware that he was a
>> continual liar with no self-control. He won't answer questions
>> about how many children he's fathered, and the obvious conclusion
>> is that he doesn't know. However, his MPs and voters are now having
>> to face up to what they've lumbered themselves with, and they don't
>> like the way it makes them look. They're also aware that he's
>> likely to loose them the next election, which was what caused the
>> recent vote of confidence.
>>
>> John
>>
>
> General attitude:
>
> I'd rather have an asshole who does right for the country than an
> angel that totally screws up the country.

No, no, NO! Just gone an wrecked it :-(

Heard a funny story about two Americans in Tasmania the other day who
wanted a beer on tap (Vom Fass) but couldn't work out Draught on the
menu. I think they ended up getting G and Ts :-)
>
> Note: Trump is neither, he's an asshole that screws up the country,
> and a subversive traitor who wanted to take away our form of
> government.
>

On 8/06/2022 8:12 pm, Dave Froble wrote:
> On 6/8/2022 8:06 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
>> On 2022-06-07, Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>>>
>>> Yeah, who cares about Depp and Herd? But I'm on the edge of my seat of
>>> Brangelina and the Russians in the winery :-(
>>
>> What about that cretin in Number 10 ? How big an idiot is he currently
>> coming across as on the world stage ? :-(
>>
>> Simon.
>>
>
> If you're talking about his actions on Ukraine, I personally think he's
> got the right idea.  Who would you prefer?  Neville Chamberlain?
>
> Some suggested reading:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_...
>

Also signing a defense pact with Finland and Sweden before they joined
NATO is very ballsy. Not sure if his government had a mandate for that
but impressive none the less.

Richard Maher <maher_rjSPAMLESS@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Great to see an American adopt the correct spelling of arse!
>
Also, I don’t think any self-respecting equine wold tolerate being owned
by a rat.