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* trying to find an FDL or RMS training manualwiz...@gmail.com
`* Re: trying to find an FDL or RMS training manualStephen Hoffman
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  `- Re: trying to find an FDL or RMS training manualStephen Hoffman

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 by: wiz...@gmail.com - Sat, 23 Jul 2022 08:37 UTC

greetings,

i while ago i was searching through old DEC VMS manuals online and I came across one which I don't know if it was a training guide or some sort of introductory guide.

i recall it providing FDL and perhaps RMS training material. the manual contained cartoon style pictures in it and explained how to use FDL to setup a database file and then some language examples.

i'm fairly certain it was published by DEC and i think i found it on Bitsavers, but for the life of me i can't find it again.

is anyone able to assist?

many thanks in advance,

cheers, Wiz!!

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 by: Stephen Hoffman - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 15:48 UTC

On 2022-07-23 08:37:23 +0000, wizdude@gmail.com said:

> greetings,
>
> i while ago i was searching through old DEC VMS manuals online and I
> came across one which I don't know if it was a training guide or some
> sort of introductory guide.
>
> i recall it providing FDL and perhaps RMS training material. the manual
> contained cartoon style pictures in it and explained how to use FDL to
> setup a database file and then some language examples.
>
> i'm fairly certain it was published by DEC and i think i found it on
> Bitsavers, but for the life of me i can't find it again.
>
> is anyone able to assist?
>
> many thanks in advance,
>
> cheers, Wiz!!

Maybe this stuff?
http://www.onwww.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vms/training/

Newer, but with fewer cartoons:
https://docs.vmssoftware.com/guide-to-openvms-file-applications/
https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvms-record-management-utilities-reference-manual/

https://docs.vmssoftware.com/vsi-openvms-utility-routines/#_4493_FDL_CHAP
(fdl$create is a handy API for higher-level abstraction; for embedding
FDL definitions directly into an app, rather than harder-to-change RMS
API calls.)

What other ed services stuff is on BitSavers? There is likely some
there, though.

One way to learn this stuff is to generate FDL files from existing
files using the ANALYZE/RMS/FDL=outputfile.fdl command. SYSUAF has a
few keys and is a handy target.

There are lots of discussions of FDL here in the comp.os.vms newsgroup, too.

If you're new to OpenVMS programming or would like a refresher, the
Programming Concepts manual is useful.
https://docs.vmssoftware.com

As for alternatives to newly-created RMS files in this current era,
there's a SQLite port available for OpenVMS.

--
Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC

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 by: Dennis Boone - Tue, 26 Jul 2022 22:54 UTC

> Maybe this stuff?
> http://www.onwww.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vms/training/

Probably need to remove "www.on" from this hostname.

De

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 by: Stephen Hoffman - Wed, 27 Jul 2022 01:12 UTC

On 2022-07-26 22:54:32 +0000, Dennis Boone said:

> > Maybe this stuff?
> > http://www.onwww.bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/vax/vms/training/
>
> Probably need to remove "www.on" from this hostname.

Both work. The URL posted was what was returned by DDG. Weird yes, but
not my doing, and not a cut-and-paste error (on my part).

Semi-related: when passing around URLs, Google and now Facebook are
increasingly forcing URL accesses to happen through their respective
servers.

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