Is there a way to kill filter a whole domain such as aioe ? Love to
know for the usual reasons. TIA

On Sun, 16 May 2021 20:53:27 -0300, Lucretia Borgia
<lucretiaborgia@fl.it> wrote:

> Is there a way to kill filter a whole domain such as aioe ? Love to
> know for the usual reasons. TIA

I use this:
Tools > Usenet filters
Filter expression: message-id: aioe.org
[x] Delete
[x] Global
All other options (including "Expire") are unchecked.

Since "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence", I don't know
if this actually works but I'm not aware of having seen anything from
that domain at least since I started using it.

--
Bob
St Francis would have done better to preach to the cats

On Sun, 16 May 2021 20:53:27 -0300, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> Is there a way to kill filter a whole domain such as aioe ? Love to
> know for the usual reasons. TIA

Not easily.

You could try filtering on the "Message-ID:" header containing aioe
[Agent 5.0 and later], but posts from aioe do not always have aioe
in the Message-ID. The poster may have generated his own Message-ID
without aioe in it.

The only headers guaranteed to identify AOIE posts are
"NNTP-Posting-Host:", "X-Complaints-To:", and "Path:". None of
these are "overview" headers, which means that these header fields
are not included when the server sends headers to your news reader.
Agent cannot filter on these headers.

There is an add-on NFilter [1] which lets one filter on non-overview
headers like "NNTP-Posting-Host:" and "X-Complaints-To:". NFilter
needs support from the news server for using the XHDR command with
non-overview headers. Unfortunately your news server APN/Easynews
does not provide this support. AFAICT neither do any of the big premium
news servers whose primary market is binary users.

AFAIK Thunderbird [2] may be able to filter on "NNTP-Posting-Host:"
or "X-Complaints-To:" using the HEAD command which your server does
support. Just be aware that HEAD downloads the full header, which
will count towards your gigs downloaded.

____
REFERENCES

[1] NFilter

<http://web.archive.org/web/20080514193524/http://www.nfilter.org/>

The downloaded files are 1 byte short which can cause modern versions
of Windows to report "not a valid Win32 executable".

(a) For nFilter version 1.20 (np-120.exe), rename np-120.exe to
np-120.zip, extract the files, and run setup.exe.

(b) For nFilter version 1.21-b1 (NewsProxy.exe), use a hex editor
to append one nul byte to the end of the file NewsProxy.exe
to make it 245,760 bytes long.

[2] Thunderbird

<https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/all/>

--
Kind regards
Ralph

Live each day as if it were your last - but pay the bills just in case it isn't.

In Message-ID:<lat3aghlr61hu82lb3g20m25rq0p3n6lvt@4ax.com>,
Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

>There is an add-on NFilter [1] which lets one filter on non-overview
>headers

Long ago, I had downloaded (but never installed or used) NewsProxy
V1.2.5, which claims to be an enhanced version of NFilter, with the
enhancements coming from "akula". The last revision shown before
akula's are:
>* 3 30/08/99 11:47a Mark Burkley
>* rel 1.2.0-b3. Bug fixes to xref check and filter file select

akula's revisions show they were made from 2005-2008.

In case I ever decide I want the additional filtering these programs
provide, I'd appreciate any comments or recommendations you'd care to
make about these three versions (1.20, 1.21-bl, and 1.2.5).

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com

On Mon, 17 May 2021 17:19:46 +1200, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
wrote:

>On Sun, 16 May 2021 20:53:27 -0300, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>> Is there a way to kill filter a whole domain such as aioe ? Love to
>> know for the usual reasons. TIA
>
>
>Not easily.
>
>You could try filtering on the "Message-ID:" header containing aioe
>[Agent 5.0 and later], but posts from aioe do not always have aioe
>in the Message-ID. The poster may have generated his own Message-ID
>without aioe in it.
>
>The only headers guaranteed to identify AOIE posts are
>"NNTP-Posting-Host:", "X-Complaints-To:", and "Path:". None of
>these are "overview" headers, which means that these header fields
>are not included when the server sends headers to your news reader.
>Agent cannot filter on these headers.
I did as Opinicus suggested and will see what happens. Whomever it is
is just one of those irritating posters who troll and make repetitive
posts, new name every day and I thought perhaps there was a way to
attack aioe - I have heard through the years, it's pointless to send
complaints to aioe :(
>
>There is an add-on NFilter [1] which lets one filter on non-overview
>headers like "NNTP-Posting-Host:" and "X-Complaints-To:". NFilter
>needs support from the news server for using the XHDR command with
>non-overview headers. Unfortunately your news server APN/Easynews
>does not provide this support. AFAICT neither do any of the big premium
>news servers whose primary market is binary users.
>
>AFAIK Thunderbird [2] may be able to filter on "NNTP-Posting-Host:"
>or "X-Complaints-To:" using the HEAD command which your server does
>support. Just be aware that HEAD downloads the full header, which
>will count towards your gigs downloaded.
>
>____
>REFERENCES
>
>[1] NFilter
>
> <http://web.archive.org/web/20080514193524/http://www.nfilter.org/>
>
> The downloaded files are 1 byte short which can cause modern versions
> of Windows to report "not a valid Win32 executable".
>
> (a) For nFilter version 1.20 (np-120.exe), rename np-120.exe to
> np-120.zip, extract the files, and run setup.exe.
>
> (b) For nFilter version 1.21-b1 (NewsProxy.exe), use a hex editor
> to append one nul byte to the end of the file NewsProxy.exe
> to make it 245,760 bytes long.
>
>
>[2] Thunderbird
>
> <https://www.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/all/>

On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:09:41 -0300, Lucretia Borgia wrote:

> I did as Opinicus suggested and will see what happens. Whomever it is
> is just one of those irritating posters who troll and make repetitive
> posts, new name every day

It would be worth checking whether the irritating poster's message-IDs
contained aioe before you begin.

--
Kind regards
Ralph

On Tue, 18 May 2021 06:25:59 +1200, Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid>
wrote:

>On Mon, 17 May 2021 09:09:41 -0300, Lucretia Borgia wrote:
>
>> I did as Opinicus suggested and will see what happens. Whomever it is
>> is just one of those irritating posters who troll and make repetitive
>> posts, new name every day
>
>It would be worth checking whether the irritating poster's message-IDs
>contained aioe before you begin.

Yes, they did, just different names at regular intervals. The post
content is all the same so he clearly does a one liner then
copy/pastes it to be totally irritating. The only consistent thing was
aioe :( Maybe he's one of those people who feel everyone should be on
Fools Book!

On Mon, 17 May 2021 04:11:51 -0400, Arthur T. wrote:

> In Message-ID:<lat3aghlr61hu82lb3g20m25rq0p3n6lvt@4ax.com>,
> Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:
>
> >There is an add-on NFilter [1] which lets one filter on non-overview
> >headers
>
> Long ago, I had downloaded (but never installed or used) NewsProxy
> V1.2.5, which claims to be an enhanced version of NFilter, with the
> enhancements coming from "akula". The last revision shown before
> akula's are:
> >* 3 30/08/99 11:47a Mark Burkley
> >* rel 1.2.0-b3. Bug fixes to xref check and filter file select
>
> akula's revisions show they were made from 2005-2008.
>
> In case I ever decide I want the additional filtering these programs
> provide, I'd appreciate any comments or recommendations you'd care to
> make about these three versions (1.20, 1.21-bl, and 1.2.5).

AIUI what "akula"/"bill" added was an option to strip specific headers
from messages you send.

I am not aware of much in the way of additional filtering capability
for messages you receive from the news server.

--
Kind regards
Ralph

In Message-ID:<rcd5agllot3ilepdsboc380a00qjvsrmr3@4ax.com>,
Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> wrote:

>> In case I ever decide I want the additional filtering these programs
>> provide, I'd appreciate any comments or recommendations you'd care to
>> make about these three versions (1.20, 1.21-bl, and 1.2.5).
>
>
>AIUI what "akula"/"bill" added was an option to strip specific headers
>from messages you send.
>
>I am not aware of much in the way of additional filtering capability
>for messages you receive from the news server.
>

Thank you.

--
Arthur T. - ar23hur "at" pobox "dot" com