On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> Civic Networking
> Jeff Rubard
>
> In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”.. A lot of
> signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> entity.
> Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.

2021 Update: ?

On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > Civic Networking
> > Jeff Rubard
> >
> > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > entity.
> > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> 2021 Update: ?

Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?

-Philip

On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 7:19:42 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > > Civic Networking
> > > Jeff Rubard
> > >
> > > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > > entity.
> > > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> > 2021 Update: ?
> Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?
>
> -Philip

2022 Update: There's a really bad data-mining scam they run in the
Portland metro area since the '90s and it lasted a long time this
time. Now it's over.

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 7:19:42 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > > > Civic Networking
> > > > Jeff Rubard
> > > >
> > > > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > > > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > > > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > > > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > > > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > > > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > > > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > > > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > > > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > > > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > > > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > > > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > > > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > > > entity.
> > > > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > > > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > > > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > > > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > > > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > > > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > > > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > > > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > > > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > > > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > > > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > > > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > > > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> > > 2021 Update: ?
> > Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?
> >
> > -Philip
> 2022 Update: There's a really bad data-mining scam they run in the
> Portland metro area since the '90s and it lasted a long time this
> time. Now it's over.

Oh, you said it was some philosophically inspired computer science idea. Now you are saying it is a scam. Oh well, whatever.

-Philip

On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:31:08 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 7:19:42 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > > > > Civic Networking
> > > > > Jeff Rubard
> > > > >
> > > > > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > > > > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > > > > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > > > > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > > > > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > > > > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > > > > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > > > > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > > > > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > > > > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > > > > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > > > > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > > > > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > > > > entity.
> > > > > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > > > > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > > > > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > > > > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > > > > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > > > > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > > > > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > > > > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > > > > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > > > > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > > > > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > > > > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > > > > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> > > > 2021 Update: ?
> > > Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?
> > >
> > > -Philip
> > 2022 Update: There's a really bad data-mining scam they run in the
> > Portland metro area since the '90s and it lasted a long time this
> > time. Now it's over.
> Oh, you said it was some philosophically inspired computer science idea. Now you are saying it is a scam. Oh well, whatever.
>
> -Philip

Is that an order, or a cognitive inadequacy?

On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:45:20 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:31:08 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 7:19:42 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > > > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > Civic Networking
> > > > > > Jeff Rubard
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > > > > > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > > > > > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > > > > > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > > > > > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > > > > > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > > > > > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > > > > > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > > > > > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > > > > > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > > > > > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > > > > > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > > > > > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > > > > > entity.
> > > > > > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > > > > > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > > > > > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > > > > > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > > > > > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > > > > > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > > > > > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > > > > > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > > > > > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > > > > > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > > > > > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > > > > > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > > > > > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> > > > > 2021 Update: ?
> > > > Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?
> > > >
> > > > -Philip
> > > 2022 Update: There's a really bad data-mining scam they run in the
> > > Portland metro area since the '90s and it lasted a long time this
> > > time. Now it's over.
> > Oh, you said it was some philosophically inspired computer science idea.. Now you are saying it is a scam. Oh well, whatever.
> >
> > -Philip
> Is that an order, or a cognitive inadequacy?

Um, neither? If you are trying to accuse a very brilliant disabled computer scientist and mathematician (me) of being "cognitively inadequate," in order that you might harass, discriminate against, or smear me, I would advise you that you would be less unwise to say such things about Stephen Hawking if he were still alive.

-Philip

On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 5:50:41 AM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> On Saturday, January 22, 2022 at 9:45:20 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:31:08 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > > On Friday, January 21, 2022 at 5:23:19 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > On Friday, December 24, 2021 at 7:19:42 PM UTC-8, B.H. wrote:
> > > > > On Thursday, December 23, 2021 at 5:40:57 PM UTC-5, Jeffrey Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > On Monday, August 9, 2010 at 12:30:41 PM UTC-7, Big Red Jeff Rubard wrote:
> > > > > > > Civic Networking
> > > > > > > Jeff Rubard
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In recent comments, I was talking to Union Street‘s Andrew about a
> > > > > > > longtime hobby-horse of mine, “theoretical republicanism”. A lot of
> > > > > > > signification is based on composing a view of the world that you want
> > > > > > > people to find compelling, maybe even over and above your proper
> > > > > > > purchase on them as a political subject: this has its place, but if
> > > > > > > equalitarian political structures are to work there has to be a
> > > > > > > certain structural equalitarianism in the field of discourse. It seems
> > > > > > > to me that one way this can come about is through what we might call
> > > > > > > “civic networking”: mapping signification onto a geographical plat.
> > > > > > > Here in Oregon we have a blog aggregator, ORBlogs, that tracks a wide
> > > > > > > variety of state blogs: maybe it’s not exactly the best that is
> > > > > > > thought and said in the world, but it gives an accurate impression of
> > > > > > > the “lay of the land” for this state, which is a real sociopolitical
> > > > > > > entity.
> > > > > > > Perhaps this sort of mapping could be intentionally cultivated at
> > > > > > > local levels: although you don’t always want your neighbors to know
> > > > > > > exactly what you’re up to, there are real political relations that
> > > > > > > computer-mediated communication could enable rather than suppress and
> > > > > > > a civic culture of “connectivity” might be worth having as a way to
> > > > > > > flesh out the real potentials of the place where you live. I don’t
> > > > > > > know how this would be done: I’m not sure “mini-Minitels” for cities
> > > > > > > would be a worthwhile investment as against independent initiatives,
> > > > > > > but there are limits to how much market-directed recomposition of
> > > > > > > interests and social formations would be desirable. You live
> > > > > > > somewhere, and your maxims and opinions find their role within that
> > > > > > > social space; maybe it’s important to have a way to have a relatively
> > > > > > > accurate understanding of what such role you are playing.
> > > > > > 2021 Update: ?
> > > > > Would you consider defining your terms a little more clearly?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Philip
> > > > 2022 Update: There's a really bad data-mining scam they run in the
> > > > Portland metro area since the '90s and it lasted a long time this
> > > > time. Now it's over.
> > > Oh, you said it was some philosophically inspired computer science idea. Now you are saying it is a scam. Oh well, whatever.
> > >
> > > -Philip
> > Is that an order, or a cognitive inadequacy?
> Um, neither? If you are trying to accuse a very brilliant disabled computer scientist and mathematician (me) of being "cognitively inadequate," in order that you might harass, discriminate against, or smear me, I would advise you that you would be less unwise to say such things about Stephen Hawking if he were still alive.
>
> -Philip

Oh, man. I used to talk like that, too. I even *meant it*. But really...