Rocksolid Light

Welcome to novaBBS (click a section below)

mail  files  register  newsreader  groups  login

Message-ID:  

Badges? We don't need no stinking badges.


devel / comp.arch / Re: finite but unbounded?

SubjectAuthor
* finite but unbounded?Ivan Godard
`* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 +* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |+* Re: finite but unbounded?robf...@gmail.com
 ||`- Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |`* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 | `* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |  `* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |   `* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |    `* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |     +* Re: finite but unbounded?robf...@gmail.com
 |     |`* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |     | +* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |     | |`* Re: finite but unbounded?George Neuner
 |     | | +* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |     | | |`- Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |     | | `* Re: finite but unbounded?EricP
 |     | |  `- Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |     | `* Re: finite but unbounded?BGB
 |     |  `* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |     |   `- Re: finite but unbounded?BGB
 |     `* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |      `* Re: finite but unbounded?Ivan Godard
 |       `* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |        `* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |         `* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |          +* Re: finite but unbounded?Ivan Godard
 |          |`* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |          | `- Re: finite but unbounded?Stefan Monnier
 |          +* Re: finite but unbounded?Stefan Monnier
 |          |+* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |          ||`- Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |          |`* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |          | `* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |          |  +* Re: finite but unbounded?Stefan Monnier
 |          |  |`* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 |          |  | +- Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |          |  | `- Re: finite but unbounded?Thomas Koenig
 |          |  `* Re: finite but unbounded?David Brown
 |          |   `- Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |          `- Re: finite but unbounded?Andy Valencia
 +* Re: finite but unbounded?Thomas Koenig
 |`- Re: finite but unbounded?robf...@gmail.com
 +* Re: finite but unbounded?Brett
 |`- Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
 `* Re: finite but unbounded?BGB
  +* Re: finite but unbounded?robf...@gmail.com
  |`* Re: finite but unbounded?BGB
  | `* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
  |  `- Re: finite but unbounded?BGB
  `* Re: finite but unbounded?MitchAlsup
   `- Re: finite but unbounded?BGB

Pages:123
Re: finite but unbounded?

<t5kbtj$oah$1@dont-email.me>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/devel/article-flat.php?id=25225&group=comp.arch#25225

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.arch
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail
From: ggt...@yahoo.com (Brett)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: finite but unbounded?
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 01:23:02 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Lines: 117
Message-ID: <t5kbtj$oah$1@dont-email.me>
References: <t4poki$v6e$1@dont-email.me>
<93727ecf-8629-4437-8c37-81a49ad2d3aen@googlegroups.com>
<t4r5li$805$1@dont-email.me>
<d7856d2b-b61d-43f8-a5ac-b8562f29a678n@googlegroups.com>
<t4tdk9$m0s$1@dont-email.me>
<t4v1jh$3np$1@dont-email.me>
<t4vvjr$djn$1@dont-email.me>
<t51csl$j4o$1@dont-email.me>
<8ec408ce-ec62-4811-83c6-6da9548a3a23n@googlegroups.com>
<896aad8f-2a69-49e4-8d3a-a8858a2d1005n@googlegroups.com>
<t53qlb$6g8$1@dont-email.me>
<bbtf7hddljge5b2pcvgu7kgg3mnnbgqne2@4ax.com>
<O0cfK.6015$6dof.1037@fx13.iad>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 01:23:02 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: reader02.eternal-september.org; posting-host="97a3b4901c452f8ca1f3d517da2a9afc";
logging-data="24913"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19ZE8TzCBNmJocN/jWeH09+"
User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad)
Cancel-Lock: sha1:BdWE+wSrNqmy804hUKsBEmK++fI=
sha1:iIkVXwbgWrnel4sZ0XGdhoVMW48=
 by: Brett - Fri, 13 May 2022 01:23 UTC

EricP <ThatWouldBeTelling@thevillage.com> wrote:
> George Neuner wrote:
>> On Fri, 6 May 2022 18:50:19 -0000 (UTC), Brett <ggtgp@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2022 at 7:39:32 PM UTC-5, robf...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>> If it were passing faster with distance, it would blue-shift. Red-shift
>>>>>> would imply that time slows down with distance.
>>>>> More units of time per wavelength equals a lower frequency. I think
>>>>> it would result in apparent red-shifting to the remote observer. Point
>>>>> is I believe that time may not pass at the same rate everywhere at
>>>>> cosmic distances. It could explain some things.
>>>>>> It would also imply a universe with a curved spacetime (vs flat).
>>>> <
>>>>> I think time is not a dimension. I believe it is an aggregate measure. If no events
>>>>> occur then no time passes. An event as small as an electron spinning, or
>>>>> smaller, causes time to pass. So at our scale of existence it seems
>>>>> to pass consistently. Time is visibility of state change. The quanta of time is
>>>>> very small.
>>>> <
>>>> In the book "Schrodinger 's Kittens" John Gribbin explains essentially how
>>>> Stephan Weinberg won his Nobel Prize. The trick, Weinberg determined has
>>>> to do with the interpretation of the Schrodinger equations with negative
>>>> values in the SQRT() part. Weinberg reasoned that this set of solutions represent
>>>> waves running backwards in time.
>>>> <
>>>> This solves the 2-slit experiments. The negative time photon passes through
>>>> and sees the configuration of the experiment before the actual (forward time)
>>>> photon has been released. So the negative time photon informs the real photon
>>>> to act like a wave or act like a particle.
>>>> <
>>>> But also explains that our knowledge of particle physics requires there to be
>>>> an atom to receive a photon that is emitted by another atom. This, in turn,
>>>> sets up the thought experiment where a atom on one side of the universe
>>>> emits a photon which is captured by an atom on the other side of the universe.
>>>> To the photon, time does not pass, to the initiator (negative time photon) time
>>>> does not pass either. So, here we have a photon that takes 13B years of flight
>>>> time, and the photon perceives none of it. The photon is released from the
>>>> atom and it arrives instantaneously at the other atom after 13B years of travel.
>>>> <
>>>> Time is not what we as humans make it out to be.
>>>> Time merely is what it is.
>>>> And Quantum electrodynamics is happy with the notion that some things
>>>> travel backwards in time (at least our understanding/perception of time).
>>>> <
>>>> recently work on trying to ecreate the math necessary to calculate in the
>>>> "time" between 10^-43 of Big Bang and 10^-38 of BB enumerates both time
>>>> and space as particles of foam (plank scale foam) that when expanded
>>>> by inflation, 3 of these become the dimensions of distance, and the other
>>>> becomes the dimension of time. But prior to 10^-38 after BB there was
>>>> neither the concept of distance nor the concept of "flowing time". We
>>>> need this kind of new math in order to create the mathematical basis
>>>> for describing physics before the emergence of dimension and time.
>>>> QED and QCD both depend on cardinality of dimensions and the flow
>>>> of time. Gravity does not. Merging these requires "new math".
>>>>
>>> Take a look at Young’s Single Slit Experiment from 1802.
>>> You get the same distribution, the effect is interaction with the atoms of
>>> the slit.
>>> No need for ridiculous theories Ike negative time.
>>> This also explains the horizontal distribution which theories ignore.
>>> I would try heavier and lighter atoms for the slit, it’s probably been
>>> done.
>>
>> In fact, the double-slit experiment has been replicated in the 'macro'
>> world using easily visible objects.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGCtMKthRh4
>
> That is not demonstration of quantum phenomena.
>
> Young's 1882 double slit experiment works fine as a demonstration
> of the wave nature of light or sound.
> The puzzles for the double slit experiments came when
> you try to explain it using particles and quantum mechanics.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-slit_experiment#%22Which-way%22_experiments_and_the_principle_of_complementarity
>
> A recent published result with a double-slit interferometer of
> neutrons claims to prove that _fractions of individual particles_
> travel through both slits and along both paths of the interferometer
> simultaneously, and not just statistical sums over many particles.
>
> One particle on two paths: Quantum physics is right
> https://phys.org/news/2022-05-particle-paths-quantum-physics.html
>
> "The novelty is that one does not have to resort to unsatisfactory
> statistical arguments: When measuring a single particle, our experiment
> shows that it must have taken two paths at the same time and quantifies
> the respective proportions unambiguously."
>
> [open access]
> Quantifying the presence of a neutron in the paths
> of an interferometer, 2022
> https://journals.aps.org/prresearch/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevResearch.4.023075
>
> "It should be emphasized that all results are completely consistent
> with standard quantum theory. The conclusion that particles can be
> physically delocalized between paths in which no strong interactions
> occur and that the localization or delocalization is decided by a
> measurement that takes place after the particles have propagated
> along the paths is a possibility inherent in the paradoxical
> aspects of quantum superpositions."

And does this theory explain the horizontal distribution as well as the
vertical distribution, like the single slit theory does?

Here’s a hint, NO.

PHd stands for Pile it Higher and Deeper, it being bullshit.

Look behind the curtain Dorothy.

The wizard is not a wizard at all, just a man.

Re: finite but unbounded?

<t5nmie$8la$2@newsreader4.netcologne.de>

  copy mid

https://www.novabbs.com/devel/article-flat.php?id=25257&group=comp.arch#25257

  copy link   Newsgroups: comp.arch
Path: i2pn2.org!i2pn.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!newsreader4.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!.POSTED.2001-4dd7-5c6-0-7285-c2ff-fe6c-992d.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de!not-for-mail
From: tkoe...@netcologne.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: finite but unbounded?
Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 07:43:10 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: news.netcologne.de
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <t5nmie$8la$2@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
References: <t4poki$v6e$1@dont-email.me>
<93727ecf-8629-4437-8c37-81a49ad2d3aen@googlegroups.com>
<t4r5li$805$1@dont-email.me>
<d7856d2b-b61d-43f8-a5ac-b8562f29a678n@googlegroups.com>
<t4tdk9$m0s$1@dont-email.me> <t4v1jh$3np$1@dont-email.me>
<t4vvjr$djn$1@dont-email.me> <t51csl$j4o$1@dont-email.me>
<t52p4a$mcg$1@dont-email.me> <t53dte$q8l$1@dont-email.me>
<t53pl6$u4p$1@dont-email.me> <t55geg$4te$1@dont-email.me>
<t59n6c$afv$1@dont-email.me> <jwv5ymfwlqd.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org>
<t5di6q$1r3$1@dont-email.me> <t5et75$kns$1@dont-email.me>
<jwvwnesomd1.fsf-monnier+comp.arch@gnu.org>
<0a89251f-2235-473c-9051-0f1f94945819n@googlegroups.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Injection-Date: Sat, 14 May 2022 07:43:10 -0000 (UTC)
Injection-Info: newsreader4.netcologne.de; posting-host="2001-4dd7-5c6-0-7285-c2ff-fe6c-992d.ipv6dyn.netcologne.de:2001:4dd7:5c6:0:7285:c2ff:fe6c:992d";
logging-data="8874"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@netcologne.de"
User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Linux)
 by: Thomas Koenig - Sat, 14 May 2022 07:43 UTC

MitchAlsup <MitchAlsup@aol.com> schrieb:
> On Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 9:07:56 PM UTC-5, Stefan Monnier wrote:
>> > Such a profound disappointment the drug companies are.
>> I wonder why you'd be disappointed. I mean they are large companies,
>> just like Nestlé, Apple, etc... They're designed to maximize their own
>> profit, not other people's well being.
><
> Which, by the way, is why medicine should not be left to "for profit"
> companies or corporations (and especially not to *.gov).

Who's left? NGOs? Research institutes (who would then have
to go into manufacturing)?

Pages:123
server_pubkey.txt

rocksolid light 0.9.8
clearnet tor