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SubjectAuthor
* Kevin ShawSnowshoe
+- Re: Kevin ShawLouis Krupp
+* Re: Kevin ShawSimon Clubley
|`- Re: Kevin ShawHein RMS van den Heuvel
`* Re: Kevin ShawBob Gezelter
 +- Re: Kevin ShawPhillip Helbig (undress to reply
 `* Re: Kevin ShawVAXman-
  +* Re: Kevin ShawBill Gunshannon
  |+- Re: Kevin ShawBob Eager
  |+- Re: Kevin ShawMichael Moroney
  |`- Re: Kevin ShawPhillip Helbig (undress to reply
  `* Re: Kevin ShawDave Froble
   `* Re: Kevin ShawVAXman-
    +- Re: Kevin ShawRichard Maher
    `* Re: Kevin ShawGalen
     `* Re: Kevin ShawVAXman-
      `* Re: Unique names (was "Kevin Shaw")Roy Omond
       `- Re: Unique names (was "Kevin Shaw")VAXman-

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 by: Snowshoe - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 05:41 UTC

Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.

https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/

Re: Kevin Shaw

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 by: Louis Krupp - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:36 UTC

On 10/17/2022 11:41 PM, Snowshoe wrote:
> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>
> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>

The accident victim seems to have been a different Kevin Shaw:

https://snbc13.com/kevin-shaw-sudbury-massachusetts-insurance-agent-broker-died-in-a-car-accident-death/?fbclid=IwAR0w3xiK9awk6LKhmJSgqh3yt0GZXFgmtj4d2zytEq63Oe9gshN3pTWa1q8

Louis

Re: Kevin Shaw

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From: club...@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)
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 by: Simon Clubley - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 13:03 UTC

On 2022-10-18, Snowshoe <no@spam.please> wrote:
> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>
> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/

As per the post from Louis, what makes you think this is the same person ?

There's nothing in the report you linked to which says that.

Does someone from VSI want to confirm whether this is the same Kevin or
if the OP is wrong ?

Thanks,

Simon.

--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

Re: Kevin Shaw

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Subject: Re: Kevin Shaw
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 by: Hein RMS van den Heu - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 14:14 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 9:03:31 AM UTC-4, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2022-10-18, Snowshoe <n...@spam.please> wrote:
> > Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
:
> Does someone from VSI want to confirm whether this is the same Kevin or if the OP is wrong ?

Wrong, as per Louis's find.

I'm loosely connected to VMSsoftware and last Friday morning there was a suggestion, and supposedly an Email that it might have been the CEO.
The victim's age is a close match, and the accident location not unlikely.
Since then, nothing formal came by in my Email at VMS Software, nothing on the web site either: https://vmssoftware.com/about/key-managers/

Linked in indicates 800+ Kevin Shaw's.
This is the VMS Software one: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-shaw-16636a18/

fwiw,
Hein.

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Subject: Re: Kevin Shaw
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 by: Bob Gezelter - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:17 UTC

On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>
> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
Snowshoe,

With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.

VSI is privately-held, but even privately-held businesses can be impacted by incorrect stories. Rumors spread worldwide at the click of a mouse, and we should be careful not to add to the immense population of online misinformation.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

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 by: Phillip Helbig (undr - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 16:44 UTC

In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob
Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:

> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
> > Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
> >
> > https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
> Snowshoe,
>
> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>
> VSI is privately-held, but even privately-held businesses can be impacted by incorrect stories. Rumors spread worldwide at the click of a mouse, and we should be careful not to add to the immense population of online misinformation.

I agree with Bob.

There aren't many named Phillip Helbig (especially spelled with that
number of l's in those places); I'm not the BMX-bike guy. :-)

Re: Kevin Shaw

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 by: VAXm...@SendSpamHere.ORG - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 20:31 UTC

In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>
>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>Snowshoe,
>
>With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.

I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)

--
VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG

I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

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 by: Bill Gunshannon - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 22:41 UTC

On 10/18/22 16:31, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
>>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>>
>>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>> Snowshoe,
>>
>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>
> I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
>

That might not be as safe a bet as you think. Your name sounds
rather generic German to me.

On another note.

My father's mother changed her name when she arrived in Philadelphia
so people from the old country couldn't find her. She made up the
name she gave immigration. My father was an only child. When we were
growing up we were often informed that we had no relatives that shared
our name. Since the advent of the Internet dozens of people with that
same made up last name have appeared. None of them related, but having
the same name.

bill

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 by: Bob Eager - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 22:59 UTC

On Tue, 18 Oct 2022 18:41:34 -0400, Bill Gunshannon wrote:

>>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of
>>> this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being
>>> the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>>
>> I'd wager a bet that I don't!
>>
>>
> That might not be as safe a bet as you think. Your name sounds rather
> generic German to me.

Three or four of 'me' crop up regularly, and I'm sure there are more.

But Google just picks up Twin Peaks references: "He is Bob, eager for
fun"...!

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 by: Dave Froble - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 23:25 UTC

On 10/18/2022 4:31 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
>>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>>
>>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>> Snowshoe,
>>
>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>
> I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
>

I'm shocked there is even one of you ...

:-)

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 by: VAXm...@SendSpamHere.ORG - Tue, 18 Oct 2022 23:39 UTC

In article <tinck2$3rb42$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>On 10/18/2022 4:31 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
>>>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>>> Snowshoe,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>>
>> I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
>>
>
>I'm shocked there is even one of you ...
>
>:-)

LOL.

I have the old family bible "tree" that goes back to the 13th century.

Four to six generations of the family were added through research into
further generations. I have a complete compilation and it it NOT that
vast.

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 by: Richard Maher - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 02:57 UTC

On 19/10/2022 7:39 am, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> In article <tinck2$3rb42$1@dont-email.me>, Dave Froble
> <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:
>> On 10/18/2022 4:31 PM, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>>> In article
>>> <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob
>>> Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>>>>
>>>>>
Snowshoe,
>>>>
>>>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about
>>>> posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far
>>>> as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have
>>>> numerous doppelgangers.
>>>
>>> I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
>>>
>>
>> I'm shocked there is even one of you ...
>>
>> :-)
>
> LOL.
>
> I have the old family bible "tree" that goes back to the 13th
> century.
>
> Four to six generations of the family were added through research
> into further generations. I have a complete compilation and it it
> NOT that vast.
>

6 generations on one A5 page? Sure you're not Tasmanian?

Not a lot of forking going on in that "tree" :-)

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 by: Michael Moroney - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 07:17 UTC

On 10/18/2022 6:41 PM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> On 10/18/22 16:31, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>> In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>,
>> Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
>>> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
>>>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
>>>>
>>> Snowshoe,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts
>>> of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know,
>>> being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
>>
>> I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
>>
>
> That might not be as safe a bet as you think.  Your name sounds
> rather generic German to me.
>
> On another note.
>
> My father's mother changed her name when she arrived in Philadelphia
> so people from the old country couldn't find her.  She made up the
> name she gave immigration.  My father was an only child. When we were
> growing up we were often informed that we had no relatives that shared
> our name.  Since the advent of the Internet dozens of people with that
> same made up last name have appeared.  None of them related, but having
> the same name.
>
> bill
>
>

My mother's maiden name is very rare. My cousin with that surname knows
he's the only person in the US with his first and last name.

My name is rare enough that we Moroneys notice other Moroneys, but is
not that rare. My wife's maiden name is also extremely rare.

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 by: Galen - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 09:59 UTC

<VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>
> I have the old family bible "tree" that goes back to the 13th century.
>
> Four to six generations of the family were added through research into
> further generations. I have a complete compilation and it it NOT that
> vast.
>

Your family Bible lists no future generations? 😆

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In article <jr8ocuF678U15@mid.individual.net>, Bill Gunshannon
<bill.gunshannon@gmail.com> writes:

> On 10/18/22 16:31, VAXman-@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
> > In article <7a9785b5-5b56-4ff9-97ce-b35020a7444cn@googlegroups.com>, Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> writes:
> >> On Tuesday, October 18, 2022 at 1:41:06 AM UTC-4, Snowshoe wrote:
> >>> Kevin Shaw was CEO of VMS Software.
> >>>
> >>> https://www.metrowestdailynews.com/story/news/2022/10/14/sudbury-man-44-killed-in-pedestrian-crash-on-great-road-in-acton/10498318002/
> >> Snowshoe,
> >>
> >> With all due respect, we should all be far more careful about posts of this ilk. While I have the arguable luxury of, so far as I know, being the only Robert Gezelter, many names have numerous doppelgangers.
> >
> > I'd wager a bet that I don't! ;)
> >
>
> That might not be as safe a bet as you think. Your name sounds
> rather generic German to me.

Hardly any Brians in Germany, probably none with that last name.

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 by: VAXm...@SendSpamHere.ORG - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 12:37 UTC

In article <tiohqi$1r3b$1@gioia.aioe.org>, Galen <no_email@invalid.invalid> writes:
><VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote:
>>
>> I have the old family bible "tree" that goes back to the 13th century.
>>
>> Four to six generations of the family were added through research into
>> further generations. I have a complete compilation and it it NOT that
>> vast.
>>
>
>
>Your family Bible lists no future generations? 😆

Huh?

The bible was updated to around 1900. After that, research was conducted
to bring it up-to-date to my generation. It'll need to be updated again
to contain the children and grandchildren.

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 by: Roy Omond - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 13:01 UTC

This thread seems to have wandered rather off-course.

I'm pretty sure my name is unique, and has never been used before.

FWIW: the family name (Omond) stems from Shetland and Norway.

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 by: VAXm...@SendSpamHere.ORG - Wed, 19 Oct 2022 14:19 UTC

In article <jraapoFrdjrU1@mid.individual.net>, Roy Omond <roy@omond.net> writes:
>This thread seems to have wandered rather off-course.

Welcome to comp.OC.vms -- Off-Course.

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