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 by: T M Smith - Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:10 UTC

A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
believe the armX6.
I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
tries to send mail.
Was a solution found for this problem?

Malcolm Smith

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: T M Smith - Tue, 21 Dec 2021 15:17 UTC

In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
believe the armX6.
I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
tries to send mail.
Was a solution found for this problem?

Malcolm Smith

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

Re: ArmX6 freezes

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Tue, 21 Dec 2021 18:47 UTC

On 21 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
T M Smith wrote:

> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
> believe the armX6.
> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
> tries to send mail.

a) Does Alt-Break work? (and if so, what app does it offer to stop?)

b) Is it a problem with a specific e-mail stuck in the current queue, or
with any e-mail sent?

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

"An American is a man with two arms and four wheels".

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 by: Chris Hughes - Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:36 UTC

In message <f22e5b9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
> believe the armX6.
> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
> tries to send mail.
> Was a solution found for this problem?

A little more information is needed.

What version of !NetFetch/!Hermes are you using?

Is the freeze with sending or receiving e-mail?

Are connecting to the correct servers on PlusNet ?

I only see a possible freeze if there is a problem with the actual
connection if sending or in the case of receiving if the server is being
very slow to respond. Or the internet is down.

Just been looking at the headers in this posting and noticed you have the
t missing from your tmsmith36 address on both the Message ID and
References. So something is not quite setup correctly on your computer.
This could cause issues with some servers.

--
Chris Hughes

Re: ArmX6 freezes

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 by: T M Smith - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 17:19 UTC

Chris,
I am using netfetch 5.53.
Where would I look to correct the error
The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server, which it
does periodically.
Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt
Malcolm

In message <ea5a789e59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <f22e5b9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>> In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>> believe the armX6.
>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>> tries to send mail.
>> Was a solution found for this problem?

> A little more information is needed.

> What version of !NetFetch/!Hermes are you using?

> Is the freeze with sending or receiving e-mail?

> Are connecting to the correct servers on PlusNet ?

> I only see a possible freeze if there is a problem with the actual
> connection if sending or in the case of receiving if the server is being
> very slow to respond. Or the internet is down.

> Just been looking at the headers in this posting and noticed you have the
> t missing from your tmsmith36 address on both the Message ID and
> References. So something is not quite setup correctly on your computer.
> This could cause issues with some servers.

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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From: New...@avisoft.f9.co.uk (Martin)
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 by: Martin - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:21 UTC

In article <b431ea9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:
> Chris,
> I am using netfetch 5.53.
> Where would I look to correct the error

> The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server,
> which it does periodically.

> Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt

I also use plusnet mail servers, and although they had major email
problems last month, I have not seen any problems like yours since
when sending mail.

Mind you, I am using AntiSpam on a Titanium.

However, can you say what server name you are using, the port, and the
security settings?

I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
which would give much more details about what was going on.

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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 by: News - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 19:49 UTC

In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
> which would give much more details about what was going on.

Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are logs
for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit dialogue.

--
Chris Johnson

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 by: News - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 22:28 UTC

In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
> which would give much more details about what was going on.

The intermittent PlusNet/Giganews feed has struck again and my last
post went in to a black hole. Here is another try. I wrote

---------------------------------------------------------------------
Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are logs
for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit dialogue.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Here is hoping this one makes it.

--
Chris Johnson

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 by: Chris Hughes - Wed, 22 Dec 2021 23:03 UTC

In message <599f0680f5chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

> In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
> Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
>> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
>> which would give much more details about what was going on.

> The intermittent PlusNet/Giganews feed has struck again and my last
> post went in to a black hole. Here is another try. I wrote

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are logs
> for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

> Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit dialogue.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> Here is hoping this one makes it.

Both of them did!

--
Chris Hughes

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 by: Dave - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 05:56 UTC

In article <fca9099f59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <599f0680f5chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
> News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

> > In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
> > Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> >> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
> >> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
> >> which would give much more details about what was going on.

> > The intermittent PlusNet/Giganews feed has struck again and my last
> > post went in to a black hole. Here is another try. I wrote

> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are logs
> > for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

> > Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit dialogue.
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> > Here is hoping this one makes it.

> Both of them did!

Indeed, one received yesterday, date and timed... Wed 22nd Dec 19:49

The second... Wed 22nd Dec 22:28

Dave

--

Dave Triffid

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 by: Martin - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 09:54 UTC

In article <599f2f78e2dave@triffid.co.uk>,
Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
> In article <fca9099f59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
> Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
> > In message <599f0680f5chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
> > News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

> > > In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
> > > Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the
> > >> sending?) but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to
> > >> be configured) which would give much more details about what
> > >> was going on.

> > > The intermittent PlusNet/Giganews feed has struck again and my
> > > last post went in to a black hole. Here is another try. I wrote

> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are
> > > logs for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

> > > Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit
> > > dialogue.
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------

> > > Here is hoping this one makes it.

> > Both of them did!

> Indeed, one received yesterday, date and timed... Wed 22nd Dec 19:49
> The second... Wed 22nd Dec 22:28

Lucky you. Neither of CJ's posts arrived here ... but I am also having
problems with Plusnet's Giganews feed.

--
Martin Avison
Note that unfortunately this email address will become invalid
without notice if (when) any spam is received.

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 by: Chris Hughes - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 10:14 UTC

In message <599f453c4dNews03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <599f2f78e2dave@triffid.co.uk>,
> Dave <dave@triffid.co.uk> wrote:
>> In article <fca9099f59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>,
>> Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:
>>> In message <599f0680f5chrisjohnson@spamcop.net>
>>> News <chrisjohnson@spamcop.net> wrote:

>>>> In article <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>,
>>>> Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the
>>>>> sending?) but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to
>>>>> be configured) which would give much more details about what
>>>>> was going on.

>>>> The intermittent PlusNet/Giganews feed has struck again and my
>>>> last post went in to a black hole. Here is another try. I wrote

>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Hermes keeps its logs in !NetFetch.Apps.!Hermes.Logs. There are
>>>> logs for sends, fetches, and an errorlog file.

>>>> Set the mails logs to 'Detailed' in the Emailboxes Edit
>>>> dialogue.
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------

>>>> Here is hoping this one makes it.

>>> Both of them did!

>> Indeed, one received yesterday, date and timed... Wed 22nd Dec 19:49
>> The second... Wed 22nd Dec 22:28

> Lucky you. Neither of CJ's posts arrived here ... but I am also having
> problems with Plusnet's Giganews feed.

I did not know till recently PlusNet still had a news feed.

I use External-September - which is free

--
Chris Hughes

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 by: T M Smith - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:50 UTC

In message <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> In article <b431ea9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>,
> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:
>> Chris,
>> I am using netfetch 5.53.
>> Where would I look to correct the error

>> The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server,
>> which it does periodically.

>> Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt

> I also use plusnet mail servers, and although they had major email
> problems last month, I have not seen any problems like yours since
> when sending mail.

> Mind you, I am using AntiSpam on a Titanium.

> However, can you say what server name you are using, the port, and the
> security settings?

> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
> which would give much more details about what was going on.
Martin
Some of the info you requested:-
Hermes POP3 mailserver mail.plus.net port 110
Mail gateway relay.plus.net

In MsgServe Choices imap port 143
SMTP port25
NNTP port 119

Security Settings ??

Malcolm

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: T M Smith - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 14:53 UTC

In message <ea5a789e59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

> In message <f22e5b9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>> In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>> believe the armX6.
>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>> tries to send mail.
>> Was a solution found for this problem?

> A little more information is needed.

> What version of !NetFetch/!Hermes are you using?

> Is the freeze with sending or receiving e-mail?

> Are connecting to the correct servers on PlusNet ?

> I only see a possible freeze if there is a problem with the actual
> connection if sending or in the case of receiving if the server is being
> very slow to respond. Or the internet is down.

> Just been looking at the headers in this posting and noticed you have the
> t missing from your tmsmith36 address on both the Message ID and
> References. So something is not quite setup correctly on your computer.
> This could cause issues with some servers.
Chris
Wheree would I look for for the headers you are refering to.?

Malcolm

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T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: Chris Hughes - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:15 UTC

In message <2e9d609f59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <ea5a789e59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
> Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> In message <f22e5b9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>>> In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>>> believe the armX6.
>>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>>> tries to send mail.
>>> Was a solution found for this problem?

>> A little more information is needed.

>> What version of !NetFetch/!Hermes are you using?

>> Is the freeze with sending or receiving e-mail?

>> Are connecting to the correct servers on PlusNet ?

>> I only see a possible freeze if there is a problem with the actual
>> connection if sending or in the case of receiving if the server is being
>> very slow to respond. Or the internet is down.

>> Just been looking at the headers in this posting and noticed you have the
>> t missing from your tmsmith36 address on both the Message ID and
>> References. So something is not quite setup correctly on your computer.
>> This could cause issues with some servers.
> Chris
> Wheree would I look for for the headers you are refering to.?

If using Messenger pro, its the 7th icon from the left (called toggle
headers) when you open the message.

--
Chris Hughes

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In message <c75e609f59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <b431ea9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>,
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> I am using netfetch 5.53.
>>> Where would I look to correct the error

>>> The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server,
>>> which it does periodically.

>>> Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt

>> I also use plusnet mail servers, and although they had major email
>> problems last month, I have not seen any problems like yours since
>> when sending mail.

>> Mind you, I am using AntiSpam on a Titanium.

>> However, can you say what server name you are using, the port, and the
>> security settings?

>> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
>> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
>> which would give much more details about what was going on.> Martin
> Some of the info you requested:-
Hermes POP3 mailserver mail.plus.net port 110
Mail gateway relay.plus.net

In MsgServe Choices imap port 143
SMTP port25
NNTP port 119

Security Settings ??

Malcolm

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.21 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: Chris Hughes - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:32 UTC

In message <c75e609f59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <599eefd562News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk>
> Martin <News03@avisoft.f9.co.uk> wrote:

>> In article <b431ea9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>,
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>> I am using netfetch 5.53.
>>> Where would I look to correct the error

>>> The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server,
>>> which it does periodically.

>>> Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt

>> I also use plusnet mail servers, and although they had major email
>> problems last month, I have not seen any problems like yours since
>> when sending mail.

>> Mind you, I am using AntiSpam on a Titanium.

>> However, can you say what server name you are using, the port, and the
>> security settings?

>> I am not familiar with Netfetch (I beleive Hermes does the sending?)
>> but I am sure there are some logs (which may have to be configured)
>> which would give much more details about what was going on.
> Martin
> Some of the info you requested:-
> Hermes POP3 mailserver mail.plus.net port 110
> Mail gateway relay.plus.net

Yes they are OK if not using a secured connection.

> In MsgServe Choices imap port 143
> SMTP port25
> NNTP port 119

You don't really need to know those.

> Security Settings ??

You are currently not using a secured connection. If you wanted to use
secure connections, they use different ports, etc.

To see the log files for your connection. There are two ways of looking at
them. I would suggest open Messenger Pro Choices window and click on Email
Accounts icon, when that window opens click on the Outgoing mail servers
radio button at top of the window and then select account you are using
(mine is called PlusNet) by double clicking on it, this should open a new
window, on the right hand side of this window are 4 radio buttons, click
on the one called Mail Logs. To view the current log click on the "View
Log" button, this opens a text file. You might be on the "Basic" log, I
suggest you change this to "Detailed" while you have the issue. remember
to click on Change to save the new settings. Then try sending an email
again. The log will now have much more information on how you are
connecting.

--
Chris Hughes

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 by: Chris Hughes - Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:37 UTC

I will top post on this occasion because you have.

I suspect the error is in "Site Settings" within the Messenger Pro Choices
window.

In message <b431ea9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> Chris,
> I am using netfetch 5.53.
> Where would I look to correct the error
> The screen freezes when netfetch tries to log into mail server, which it
> does periodically.
> Sending this quickly since had freezeup durinf last attempt
> Malcolm

> In message <ea5a789e59.chris@mytarbis.plus.com>
> Chris Hughes <lists@noonehere.co.uk> wrote:

>> In message <f22e5b9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>>> In message <a18d5a9e59.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
>>> T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

>>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>>> believe the armX6.
>>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>>> tries to send mail.
>>> Was a solution found for this problem?

>> A little more information is needed.

>> What version of !NetFetch/!Hermes are you using?

>> Is the freeze with sending or receiving e-mail?

>> Are connecting to the correct servers on PlusNet ?

>> I only see a possible freeze if there is a problem with the actual
>> connection if sending or in the case of receiving if the server is being
>> very slow to respond. Or the internet is down.

>> Just been looking at the headers in this posting and noticed you have the
>> t missing from your tmsmith36 address on both the Message ID and
>> References. So something is not quite setup correctly on your computer.
>> This could cause issues with some servers.

--
Chris Hughes

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On 23/12/2021 15:37, Chris Hughes wrote:
> I will top post on this occasion because you have.

Two wrongs...

---druck

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 by: T M Smith - Fri, 31 Dec 2021 11:52 UTC

In message <566b6e9e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 21 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
> T M Smith wrote:

>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>> believe the armX6.
>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>> tries to send mail.

> a) Does Alt-Break work? (and if so, what app does it offer to stop?)

> b) Is it a problem with a specific e-mail stuck in the current queue, or
> with any e-mail sent?
Yes alt-Break works but does not give any additional info.
Malcolm , who is slowly getting back to normal

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: Harriet Bazley - Fri, 31 Dec 2021 13:43 UTC

On 31 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
T M Smith wrote:

> In message <566b6e9e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On 21 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
> > T M Smith wrote:
>
> >> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
> >> believe the armX6.
> >> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
> >> tries to send mail.
>
> > a) Does Alt-Break work? (and if so, what app does it offer to stop?)
>
> > b) Is it a problem with a specific e-mail stuck in the current queue, or
> > with any e-mail sent?
> Yes alt-Break works but does not give any additional info.
>
What I mean is, does it say "Press Stop to terminate Hermes", or does it
name some other program (presumably the one currently paged in at the
time)?

--
Harriet Bazley == Loyaulte me lie ==

If you see an onion ring - answer it.

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 by: T M Smith - Tue, 4 Jan 2022 16:06 UTC

In message <6cf078a359.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

> On 31 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
> T M Smith wrote:

>> In message <566b6e9e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
>> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> On 21 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
>>> T M Smith wrote:
>>
>>>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>>>> believe the armX6.
>>>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>>>> tries to send mail.
>>
>>> a) Does Alt-Break work? (and if so, what app does it offer to stop?)
>>
>>> b) Is it a problem with a specific e-mail stuck in the current queue, or
>>> with any e-mail sent?
>> Yes alt-Break works but does not give any additional info.
>>
> What I mean is, does it say "Press Stop to terminate Hermes", or does it
> name some other program (presumably the one currently paged in at the
> time)?
Harriet,
I cannot recall any such message,
I will check more carefully when the opportunity arises.
I have been away from the computer recently.
Malcolm

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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 by: Steve Fryatt - Tue, 4 Jan 2022 22:53 UTC

On 4 Jan, T M Smith wrote in message
<176795a559.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>:

> Harriet, I cannot recall any such message, I will check more carefully
> when the opportunity arises.

When you press Alt-Break, it will offer to stop a named application, or step
on to the next application. The first application to be named on pressing
Alt-Break is the one that the system thinks has hung, although it's not
infallible.

Is the first application Hermes?

--
Steve Fryatt - Leeds, England

http://www.stevefryatt.org.uk/

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 by: T M Smith - Wed, 5 Jan 2022 14:12 UTC

In message <176795a559.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

> In message <6cf078a359.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:

>> On 31 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
>> T M Smith wrote:

>>> In message <566b6e9e59.harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk>
>>> Harriet Bazley <harriet@bazleyfamily.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21 Dec 2021 as I do recall,
>>>> T M Smith wrote:
>>>
>>>>> A short while ago there was mail concerning freezing of the screen on I
>>>>> believe the armX6.
>>>>> I am suffering from the same problem which seems to occur when Hermes
>>>>> tries to send mail.
>>>
>>>> a) Does Alt-Break work? (and if so, what app does it offer to stop?)
>>>
>>>> b) Is it a problem with a specific e-mail stuck in the current queue, or
>>>> with any e-mail sent?
>>> Yes alt-Break works but does not give any additional info.
>>>
>> What I mean is, does it say "Press Stop to terminate Hermes", or does it
>> name some other program (presumably the one currently paged in at the
>> time)?
> Harriet,
> I cannot recall any such message,
> I will check more carefully when the opportunity arises.
> I have been away from the computer recently.
> Malcolm
PS. Checked todays freeze. Alt-Break has no effect, Control-Break leads
to a black screen and a reboot. No messages or other info given.

Malcolm

--
T M Smith
Using an ARMX6 and RISC OS 5.29 in the North Riding of Yorkshire

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From: dav...@triffid.co.uk (Dave)
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Subject: Re: ArmX6 freezes
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2022 16:35:25 +0000 (GMT)
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 by: Dave - Wed, 5 Jan 2022 16:35 UTC

In article <54bd0ea659.Broadband@msmith36.plus.com>,
T M Smith <tmsmith36@tmsmith36.plus.com> wrote:

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> PS. Checked todays freeze. Alt-Break has no effect, Control-Break leads
> to a black screen and a reboot. No messages or other info given.

> Malcolm

In all the years I've been using various version of VRPC and various
versions of RISC OS, trying to Alt-Break out of a problem has Never
worked, it usually ends up making matters worse.

Dave

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