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* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sKevin Monceaux
`* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sDavid Turner
 `* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sDavid Turner
  `* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sIan Miller
   `* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sDavid Turner
    +* Re: Update on Cheap DS10sIan Miller
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    `* [OT] England, was: Re: Update on Cheap DS10sSimon Clubley
     +* Re: [OT] England, was: Re: Update on Cheap DS10sDavid Turner
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 by: Kevin Monceaux - Thu, 1 Dec 2022 14:30 UTC

David,

On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 08:07:09PM -0500, David Turner via Info-vax wrote:
> We will be in UK for 10 days and only skeleton (*2) will be working at
> the warehouse so this is not going to happen
>
> realistically before Jan 3 2023
>
>
> But they are here in the US so.....

I might be interested in one when they're ready, depending on price plus
shipping costs.

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Re: Update on Cheap DS10s

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 by: David Turner - Sun, 8 Jan 2023 22:47 UTC

We are going to cap international shipping at $250
Domestic $65

On 12/1/2022 9:30 AM, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
> David,
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 08:07:09PM -0500, David Turner via Info-vax wrote:
>
>> We will be in UK for 10 days and only skeleton (*2) will be working at
>> the warehouse so this is not going to happen
>>
>> realistically before Jan 3 2023
>>
>>
>> But they are here in the US so.....
> I might be interested in one when they're ready, depending on price plus
> shipping costs.
>
>
>
>

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 by: David Turner - Mon, 9 Jan 2023 21:13 UTC

It's the Camino De Santiago for wife and I hopefully this year
We are gonna try to run and walk it.
In 3 weeks - 550 miles !!!!

Always in for a challenge.

On 1/8/2023 5:47 PM, David Turner wrote:
> We are going to cap international shipping at $250
> Domestic $65
>
> On 12/1/2022 9:30 AM, Kevin Monceaux wrote:
>> David,
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 08:07:09PM -0500, David Turner via Info-vax
>> wrote:
>>> We will be in UK for 10 days and only skeleton (*2) will be working at
>>> the warehouse so this is not going to happen
>>>
>>> realistically before Jan 3 2023
>>>
>>>
>>> But they are here in the US so.....
>> I might be interested in one when they're ready, depending on price plus
>> shipping costs.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

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On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:13:17 PM UTC, David Turner wrote:
> It's the Camino De Santiago for wife and I hopefully this year
> We are gonna try to run and walk it.
> In 3 weeks - 550 miles !!!!
>
> Always in for a challenge.
> On 1/8/2023 5:47 PM, David Turner wrote:

The British section from Reading to Southampton of the pilgrimage route Camino De Santiago is now signposted starting at the ruins of Reading Abbey.

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 by: David Turner - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:05 UTC

Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed

DT

> On Monday, January 9, 2023 at 9:13:17 PM UTC, David Turner wrote:
>> It's the Camino De Santiago for wife and I hopefully this year
>> We are gonna try to run and walk it.
>> In 3 weeks - 550 miles !!!!
>>
>> Always in for a challenge.
>> On 1/8/2023 5:47 PM, David Turner wrote:
> The British section from Reading to Southampton of the pilgrimage route Camino De Santiago is now signposted starting at the ruins of Reading Abbey.

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 by: Ian Miller - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 17:32 UTC

On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:05:25 PM UTC, David Turner wrote:
> Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
> rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
> thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed
>
>
> DT

I've lived in Reading since 1983 mostly in Whitley and never been attacked by teenage thugs, goats or anyone else. I walk the streets and local paths daily.

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 by: chris - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:09 UTC

On 1/10/23 17:32, Ian Miller wrote:
> On Tuesday, January 10, 2023 at 5:05:25 PM UTC, David Turner wrote:
>> Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
>> rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
>> thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed
>>
>>
>> DT
>
> I've lived in Reading since 1983 mostly in Whitley and never been attacked by teenage thugs, goats or anyone else. I walk the streets and local paths daily.

Oxford here, similar story. Anyone being murdered here is a
major news event nationwide, because of it's rarity.

At least we don't have lunatics or kids with guns shooting at
people, an even rarer occurrence...

Chris

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 by: Simon Clubley - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 19:11 UTC

On 2023-01-10, David Turner <dturner@islandco.com> wrote:
> Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
> rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
> thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed
>

[Oh, why not reply to this ? :-) It's not like there's a lot of other stuff
being posted.]

Goats I have no real experience with.

Sheep are docile and simply don't care about you unless you get really
close (2-3m) and then they just move away. Around here, there are villages
where the sheep and the humans share the pavements, grassy areas, and the
roads and the sheep simply don't care about the humans unless you get
_really_ close to them.

Cows are a different story and I would rather have to deal with teenagers
than a field of cows (especially cows with young hiding behind them),
although sometimes there's no choice because there isn't another viable
alternate route.

Farmers either tolerate you but mostly outright welcome you and actively
engage in discussion with you if you pass them by while they are working
on their land. Last time I had a real problem with a farmer (claiming there
wasn't a route across their land even though it was marked on the OS map)
must be about 10-15 years ago.

The only annoying thing about farmers is that they occasionally take
advantage of their right to place some kinds of bulls in fields which
have public rights of way going across them.

Simon.

PS: Reading doesn't exactly strike me as a hotspot of danger. :-)

--
Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP
Walking destinations on a map are further away than they appear.

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 by: David Turner - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:42 UTC

It never really struck me as a dangerous place, until we went  to one of
the pubs in the high street. (Same with High Wycombe though)
It was the young underage drinkers stirring up the places. Not going to
mention the pub(don't remember the name) but it was halfway down the
high street.
I am 56 as was my friend. We got one pint and got the hell out. Very
confrontational kids aged 15-20.

I did notice that old familiar smell of John Courage brewing the beer
has gone away too. Sad.
When I was a kid, we lived in Wokingham, so Reading (or Bracknell) were
the places to go shopping.
We would park in that old Multi-story car park and the smell of the malt
boiling was intoxicating.

As for Farmers. They have told my wife and I to get off their land
several times. Granted, that was over towards Virginia Water way past WG
Park.
And perish the thought that you put a water bottle in their trash can.
You would have thought we had murdered their pooch !!!!  ;-{

My mother lives by Widbrook common between Maidenhead and Cookham. THAT
is a beautiful walk. You can go from Bourne End to WIndsor without
hitting a main road. All fields and backwood trails.  I miss it. In
Savannah you have to drive. The idea of sidewalks here is lost.
Perhaps this is why the overweight people numbers are so so so high here
in the south.

DT

On 1/10/2023 2:11 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-01-10, David Turner <dturner@islandco.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
>> rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
>> thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed
>>
> [Oh, why not reply to this ? :-) It's not like there's a lot of other stuff
> being posted.]
>
> Goats I have no real experience with.
>
> Sheep are docile and simply don't care about you unless you get really
> close (2-3m) and then they just move away. Around here, there are villages
> where the sheep and the humans share the pavements, grassy areas, and the
> roads and the sheep simply don't care about the humans unless you get
> _really_ close to them.
>
> Cows are a different story and I would rather have to deal with teenagers
> than a field of cows (especially cows with young hiding behind them),
> although sometimes there's no choice because there isn't another viable
> alternate route.
>
> Farmers either tolerate you but mostly outright welcome you and actively
> engage in discussion with you if you pass them by while they are working
> on their land. Last time I had a real problem with a farmer (claiming there
> wasn't a route across their land even though it was marked on the OS map)
> must be about 10-15 years ago.
>
> The only annoying thing about farmers is that they occasionally take
> advantage of their right to place some kinds of bulls in fields which
> have public rights of way going across them.
>
> Simon.
>
> PS: Reading doesn't exactly strike me as a hotspot of danger. :-)
>

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 by: David Turner - Tue, 10 Jan 2023 22:46 UTC

Oh there is no question the safest place in the US is worse than the
most dangerous place in Britain (outside London)
This whole second amendment thing is out of control. And these American
guns ARE finding their way to the streets of the UK.
They are not all coming from Bulgaria !
Savannah GA had 57 gun murders last year with a real population of about
60K. They were nearly all inner-city project murders or
gang/drug related.
The town I live in there is rarely anything more than a speeding ticket
or a drunk driver leaving the local pizza joint. I hope it stays that way

DT

On 1/10/2023 2:11 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-01-10, David Turner <dturner@islandco.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, well, Reading is probably the most dangerous leg of all. I would
>> rather be attacked by goats, sheep, cows and farmers than the teenage
>> thugs hanging around Reading. Was there last year. Man how it has changed
>>
> [Oh, why not reply to this ? :-) It's not like there's a lot of other stuff
> being posted.]
>
> Goats I have no real experience with.
>
> Sheep are docile and simply don't care about you unless you get really
> close (2-3m) and then they just move away. Around here, there are villages
> where the sheep and the humans share the pavements, grassy areas, and the
> roads and the sheep simply don't care about the humans unless you get
> _really_ close to them.
>
> Cows are a different story and I would rather have to deal with teenagers
> than a field of cows (especially cows with young hiding behind them),
> although sometimes there's no choice because there isn't another viable
> alternate route.
>
> Farmers either tolerate you but mostly outright welcome you and actively
> engage in discussion with you if you pass them by while they are working
> on their land. Last time I had a real problem with a farmer (claiming there
> wasn't a route across their land even though it was marked on the OS map)
> must be about 10-15 years ago.
>
> The only annoying thing about farmers is that they occasionally take
> advantage of their right to place some kinds of bulls in fields which
> have public rights of way going across them.
>
> Simon.
>
> PS: Reading doesn't exactly strike me as a hotspot of danger. :-)
>

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 by: Simon Clubley - Wed, 11 Jan 2023 13:11 UTC

On 2023-01-10, David Turner <dturner@islandco.com> wrote:
>
> As for Farmers. They have told my wife and I to get off their land
> several times. Granted, that was over towards Virginia Water way past WG
> Park.

Interesting. I wonder if it's a regional thing because I've had a much
more pleasant experience around here (apart from the bloody bulls in
fields thing. :-))

Simon.

--
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 by: David Turner - Thu, 12 Jan 2023 03:43 UTC

Perhaps

The Home Counties were always a little stuck up, especially around
Windsor and Maidenhead

On 1/11/2023 8:11 AM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2023-01-10, David Turner <dturner@islandco.com> wrote:
>> As for Farmers. They have told my wife and I to get off their land
>> several times. Granted, that was over towards Virginia Water way past WG
>> Park.
> Interesting. I wonder if it's a regional thing because I've had a much
> more pleasant experience around here (apart from the bloody bulls in
> fields thing. :-))
>
> Simon.
>

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