On Friday, April 23, 2021 at 1:07:21 PM UTC-4, retrosys...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, April 15, 2021 at 2:30:24 PM UTC-4, Stephen Mitchell wrote:
> > On Wednesday, April 14, 2021 at 3:45:29 PM UTC-4, mdlou...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > If you're looking for just a plain text editor, check out RED and ED2.. Both are lightweight and without overlays. The main difference is the ED2 is limited to text files that will fit in memory. RED uses a virtual memory buffer and can edit files of most any size (really, up to the free space on disk). RED has executable configurations for both ANSI and ADM-3A terminals. The implementation of ED2 supports ADM-3A, however could be tuned-up for ANSI terms as well.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/mdlougheed/RED
> > >
> > > https://github.com/mdlougheed/ed2
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > MDL
> > I guess I'm confused as to why the O.P. doesn't just go with VDE. It's only 16K, is stand-alone, is versatile, really quick, and does not require overlays. (It does have a companion installation program, VINST.COM, to configure the binary for particular keyboard and terminal codes, but once the editor has been configured for a particular machine, VINST is not longer required.) VDE works like a champ and has been my go-to programming editor both on a succession of CP/M Kaypros and now in an emulated CP/M 2.2 environment (MYZ80 running under DOSBOX on a Windows 10 machine.) Because, like the Turbo Pascal editor, it uses the WordStar command set, I can switch between editing a Turbo Pascal program in the Turbo environment and a BDS-C, S-BASIC, ALGOL-M, or PLI80 program at the command prompt without missing a beat.. (That said, I have used TE and ED2, and both do a fine job -- I just happen to prefer the WordStar commands.)
> >
> > Steve Mitchell
> > Alexandria, Va.
> VDE wants access to the Video Ram as far as I can tell in the install. The Coleco Adam doesn't have video RAM available to the Z80 except through IN and OUT commands. So the program would have to use Terminal codes only. Again the adam is close to the ADM 3A but not close enough to use, that and it has a 32 character wide screen makes it hard to find one I can configure easily.

Now I understand. I am going to second the idea to use PMATE. You can shrink the copyright line, or
just ignore it.
And the other bits can shrink to 32 characters wide. Tried it. It is a bit clumsy, but the editor does work
at 32 columns.

Size of PMATE 3.02 is 158 records with 200 byte permanent macro area. If POPCOM is used the size
go down (20224 to 13696) to 107 records. No overlays used, Virtual memory for primary edit buffer,
10 other buffers available.

I think you could go as low as 8x32 for display size, some of the built-in macros go a bit wonky.

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 2:30:57 AM UTC+10, Fred wrote:
[snip]
> Now I understand. I am going to second the idea to use PMATE. You can shrink the copyright line, or
> just ignore it.
> And the other bits can shrink to 32 characters wide. Tried it. It is a bit clumsy, but the editor does work
> at 32 columns.
>
> Size of PMATE 3.02 is 158 records with 200 byte permanent macro area. If POPCOM is used the size
> go down (20224 to 13696) to 107 records. No overlays used, Virtual memory for primary edit buffer,
> 10 other buffers available.
>
> I think you could go as low as 8x32 for display size, some of the built-in macros go a bit wonky.

I'm going to "bury" the following in this thread - like a piece of "treasure" for you to find!

A couple of people have asked me about PMATE V3.21 for CP/M.

I've shared the following CP/M Library file with them. It contains all the files from the distribution disk.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mE38V7DYw9IbAN6RnedvgjKFu_DN6Hpp/view?usp=sharing

As far as I know, this was the last version of PMATE issued for CP/M by Phoenix Software Associates prior to further enhancements being made by Bridger Mitchell for ZMATE.

I know I did have printed documentation too - but I can't find it in my hoard.

Enjoy!

Tony

On Tuesday, May 11, 2021 at 9:43:59 AM UTC+10, Tony Nicholson wrote:
[snip]

> A couple of people have asked me about PMATE V3.21 for CP/M.

I meant to add - you can configure PMATE to use WordStar keystrokes too.

Tony

TE has some adaptations including VT100 and WordStar keybindings.

The next version will be capable of configure all the keybindings to your taste.

https://github.com/MiguelVis/te

Tony - thank you for sharing PMATE resources. I had a customised executable for my system but none of the configuration files and my google search a few months ago was fruitless.

I have a "PMATE rev 2 user manual and interface guide" which looks identical to your shared scan.

I also have a 10-page document entitled "Revision 3 update information":

"PMATE revision 3 adds automatic, bidirectional disk buffering to the capabilities of revision 2..."

the document talks about new commands, configuration, use of IOPATCH and has an "Appendix A COMMAND SUMMARY" in the same style as Appendix A of the revision 2 manual.

I'll put it thrrough my scanner and see if it's legible enough to share.

Neal.

10-page document entitled "Revision 3 update information" for PMATE: https://drive.google.com/file/d/143BnO99-PE_iEquvDrnNE6aPk-_00Vn4/view?usp=sharing

Neal.

On Wednesday, July 14, 2021 at 6:37:06 AM UTC+10, Neal Crook wrote:
> 10-page document entitled "Revision 3 update information" for PMATE: https://drive.google.com/file/d/143BnO99-PE_iEquvDrnNE6aPk-_00Vn4/view?usp=sharing
>
> Neal.

Much appreciated Neal.

I feel it's important to preserve copies of the software and documentation.

Tony